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Herdfan

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While this is technically about basketball, the ramifications for football could be huge. The issues are the same.


If the NC State players win, the NCAA could face billions in liability.
 
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TheIntruder

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The NCAA is already on the hook, and as the last sentence says, has settled for billions in payments.

The Supreme Court put the coup de grâce on its defenses when it found that the NCAA was in violation of anti-trust, and upheld the lower court rulings regarding NIL payments.

Not only are former players piling on the lawsuits, there have been some state AGs as well, who are attacking the compensation rules relating to recruiting.

It has been under siege since the proverbial dam broke, and undermined the whole scheme.


Should be interesting to see what the college athletics landscape looks like within 5-10 years, when the current big media/conference contracts have expired. CFB will certainly look different, but the rest will have to shake itself out as well.

We've already seen the implosion of the century plus-old Pac-12 conference over money, and the festering unhappiness in the ACC has turned into mutiny in earnest.

It doesn't seem that anything is off the table at this point.
 

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We've already seen the implosion of the century plus-old Pac-12 conference over money, and the festering unhappiness in the ACC has turned into mutiny in earnest.

The ACC needs to sit down and Shut-Up. They made it in so they need to be happy otherwise they will go the way of the PAC-12 and their basketball programs will be a new Big East.
 

TheIntruder

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The ACC needs to sit down and Shut-Up. They made it in so they need to be happy otherwise they will go the way of the PAC-12 and their basketball programs will be a new Big East.

It's mainly FSU and Clemson who are unhappy, and became even more so after the conference took in the two Pac-12 refugees, Stanford and Cal (even at very small shares).

But the Grant of Rights they both signed as conference members locks them in until 2036, unless they forfeit their right$ if they wish to leave. They can also try to negotiate an exit, or sue, which is the path they've chosen.

USC and UCLA didn't have the same hurdle when their desire for more money prompted them to bail for the Big Ten, and set in motion the demise of the Pac-12.
 

Herdfan

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Is the ACC really a P5 without those two? Stanford has its ups and downs and SMU has the money to buy the best players they can, but otherwise the ACC is really no better than the AAC when it comes to football.

The one that hasn't happened yet is say a conference like the SEC thinking "Does Vanderbilt help us as a conference?" Could they really kick a school out?
 

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I'll watch for sure. But 12 is too many as I would have preferred 8.
I don't disagree. When is the last time you thought a number 8 team should be in the championship game, under the last format? But, I suppose we could say that about any professional sport playoff right?
 

Herdfan

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I don't disagree. When is the last time you thought a number 8 team should be in the championship game, under the last format? But, I suppose we could say that about any professional sport playoff right?

Let's face it, the fans of team #5, #9, #13 or #65 are going to think their team should be in. And has a chance.

In reality, only #5 has a real beef. I don't see anyone outside of #6 making a run. I mean a true #6, not a 12-0 ND who is relegated to a low seed because the P4's get all the byes.

It should be the P4 champs, the highest seeded G5 team and 3 at large. That's enough.
 

miamialley

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Let's face it, the fans of team #5, #9, #13 or #65 are going to think their team should be in. And has a chance.

In reality, only #5 has a real beef. I don't see anyone outside of #6 making a run. I mean a true #6, not a 12-0 ND who is relegated to a low seed because the P4's get all the byes.

It should be the P4 champs, the highest seeded G5 team and 3 at large. That's enough.
I wouldn't give the G5 team a bid and call it 4 at large. If 2 G5's make it then so be it - if none, then oh well.

But, they didn't ask us.
 

TheIntruder

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Is the ACC really a P5 without those two? Stanford has its ups and downs and SMU has the money to buy the best players they can, but otherwise the ACC is really no better than the AAC when it comes to football.

The one that hasn't happened yet is say a conference like the SEC thinking "Does Vanderbilt help us as a conference?" Could they really kick a school out?

Based just on my cursory knowledge, no, even if ND were to fully join and play football as a member. It's more a basketball conference, no?

Nothing would surprise any more.

I'll watch for sure. But 12 is too many as I would have preferred 8.

More games = more 💰💰💰. Even the NFL has a 14-team post-season tournament for a 32-team league.

At least CFB is creeping closer and closer to crowning a champion through play, with less emphasis on reputation and opinion.
 

Herdfan

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I wouldn't give the G5 team a bid and call it 4 at large. If 2 G5's make it then so be it - if none, then oh well.

But, they didn't ask us.

Actually I think the G5's should hold their own championship just like the lower divisions.
 

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North Carolina at Minnesota was a good one too. The lead changed hands on field goals three times in the last several minutes of the game, with Minnesota (sadly) missing the attempt at a fourth lead change as time expired.
 
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I don't know who was wearing those yellow and green uniforms last night, but they didn't look like a number THREE ranked team who was favored by 44 pts. The O line is a real problem. Didn't even score in the third quarter. Was embarrassing to watch, but at least we (barely) squeaked out with a win.
 

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The USC/LSU game was fantastic!

Friggin' had to use a VPN in London to watch it on ESPN+, though. Cutting the cord has been mostly great, but I'm still constantly running into roadblocks to watch the sports I want.
 
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Herdfan

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The USC/LSU game was fantastic!

Yes it was. Glad to see USC win as Brian Kelly will never get rid of that ND stench.


Friggin' had to use a VPN in London to watch it on ESPN+, though. Cutting the cord has been mostly great, but I'm still constantly running into roadblocks to watch the sports I want.

Yeah I am going to have to figure some things out since ESPN has been taken off DirecTV in a carriage dispute.
 

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Yes it was. Glad to see USC win as Brian Kelly will never get rid of that ND stench.




Yeah I am going to have to figure some things out since ESPN has been taken off DirecTV in a carriage dispute.
DTV streamer since ‘22 so advise what your workaround is.
 
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