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New 12.9" worth it over last years model?

I had the original 12.9. Got 128GB because 32GB wasn't enough. 64GB works for me, though, so I was paying for extra space.

With the updated model, 64GB is the base. I figure if I wait to find a good deal for it I'll be able to upgrade for less than $200 after selling the older model.

Worth it to me for the upgraded hardware. To each his own.
 
JTravers said:
I had the original 12.9. Got 128GB because 32GB wasn't enough. 64GB works for me, though, so I was paying for extra space.

With the updated model, 64GB is the base. I figure if I wait to find a good deal for it I'll be able to upgrade for less than $200 after selling the older model.

Worth it to me for the upgraded hardware. To each his own.
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I agree. With the new Promotion display and added Tru-Tone, that justifies enough of a reason for me.
 
Relentless Power said:
Not yet. I tend to wait a few months before I make a purchase with the new iPad, mainly just to get past any first reported manufacturing issues. But I will be though. Yourself?
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I got first gen...im okay with it but i went to apple store today to check it out. My gosh...the swipe is insane. Drawing was insane.
 
pat500000 said:
I got first gen...im okay with it but i went to apple store today to check it out. My gosh...the swipe is insane. Drawing was insane.
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I bet.

So, many reports out there declaring how much a difference ProMotion helps. Even Chris Pirillo, long time Apple user... has criticized Apple for their lackluster efforts of iOS. But has come around to acknowledge how much ProMotion has made a difference.

I do plan on purchasing one, but rather wait to I sell my current iPP first.
 
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chfilm said:
In your opinion- is this years model a worthy upgrade if you own the 2015 iPad Pro 12.9"?
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Depends what other devices you have, but if you're hooked on the new 120hz display and like the 12.9 form factor, i'd suggest selling it while you still have applecare on it and upgrading now.

Obviously we do not know what Apple's future ipad pro release schedule will be like, but if we assume it is going to be 2 years again, then you're looking at 2019 before the next revision comes around; by which point your current machine will be 4 years old and well out of applecare.

Apple doesn't generally change pricing much, so if you're going to jump, now is the time to do it. All that will happen between now and the next ipad release is that your current 12.9 will go down in value, and until the new Pro is released the replacement cost with a new one will remain constant.

So, i guess if you're going to jump this generation, jump now. Otherwise skip this and hold out for the next model.
 
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kevroc said:
This is one of the few very good reasons to go with the smaller version. The "it's too big or heavy" is just silly compared to what most people carry around. If you have a specific need for the smaller version like you have then great, otherwise the 12.9 with the extra screen space can't be beat.
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Depends on your use case. If all you do is use your ipad on a table, sure. Size probably irrelevant. But that's not how many people use their tablets.

Too big/heavy, when there is a model that is lighter/smaller and will do the job more conveniently for the person's particular usage scenario is a totally valid point.

Why pay more money for a bigger device that is less convenient to use when the smaller one is preferable?
 
It seems like a smaller update because it has the same design but I think it is quite substantial. If you really feel like the 12.9 inch would be more suitable then it's worth going for that one
 
pat500000 said:
12.9 is great.
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agree with the last sentence of your comment.

12.9" works wonderfully.

I knew out of the gate I would not be using this one handed and the ASK makes it easy to lounge with. I won't take it on my commutes because of how increasingly unpredictable they are, no seats, sardine style overcrowding and the inability to get the optimal use of this great iPad with one hand usage. I love it and knew it's limitations given my particular situation. If I had an easy commute, yeah I'd happily cart it around in the real world.

I won't belittle those who find the 12.9" too heavy, as it is for me in holding it with one hand. As I deal with arthritis in my wrist, I can sympathize. Nice thing is, the new model is lighter which makes it even better.

Apple understands and made two sizes. Everyone wins. There is no wrong choice.
 
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throAU said:
Depends on your use case. If all you do is use your ipad on a table, sure. Size probably irrelevant. But that's not how many people use their tablets.

Too big/heavy, when there is a model that is lighter/smaller and will do the job more conveniently for the person's particular usage scenario is a totally valid point.

Why pay more money for a bigger device that is less convenient to use when the smaller one is preferable?
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You are mixing terms, just because one is smaller doesn't make the other "too big/heavy". One is smaller and one is larger, that's all. Saying one is "too heavy" is quite comical...yes it's heavier, but is it really "too heavy"?

Put it another way, if the smaller one wasn't available would you not by the larger one because it's too heavy? I think not...
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Channan said:
Like what?
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100 - 300 lbs...
 
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(Ignores mudslinging)

I just got the new 12.9" Pro yesterday. I've seen it already at my local Apple Store, but the differences in person are more pronounced. It feels significantly faster.

This is probably a combination of the A10X and ProMotion. Still, if you're on the fence, the deciding factor is whether or not:
  • You find it too slow
  • You need more space than your current iPad Pro
If neither of the above are true, then getting the new 12.9" is a bit of a mixed bag. I'd suggest visiting your local Apple Store and / or evaluating your current storage requirements.
 
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throAU said:
Depends on your use case. If all you do is use your ipad on a table, sure. Size probably irrelevant. But that's not how many people use their tablets.

Too big/heavy, when there is a model that is lighter/smaller and will do the job more conveniently for the person's particular usage scenario is a totally valid point.

Why pay more money for a bigger device that is less convenient to use when the smaller one is preferable?
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It's perfectly fine on the sofa. You don't need to be on a table to use this 12.9

It works fine on my lap on the sofa or even using the Smart Cover in bed.

Why pay more money for a bigger device? Simple..SCREEN

To take advantage of what this iPad brings and what IOS 11 brings the bigger screen is a must.

If anything using the 10.5 holding it all the time is a pain. Much rather use the Smart Keyboard like I'am now. Far more comfortable than holding the smaller model.
 
I've been using the new 12.9 for about a week and I am extremely impressed. It's a considerable upgrade over the older model in almost every way.

One thing to consider is that the V1 12.9 could be said to actually be two generations behind as it didn't have True Tone or the better calibrated and much less reflective display. After using the 9.7 pro I have been waiting for these upgrades to make it to the 12.9 and I am not disappointed.

If you can manage it go for the new one.
 
Sanlitun said:
I've been using the new 12.9 for about a week and I am extremely impressed. It's a considerable upgrade over the older model in almost every way.

One thing to consider is that the V1 12.9 could be said to actually be two generations behind as it didn't have True Tone or the better calibrated and much less reflective display. After using the 9.7 pro I have been waiting for these upgrades to make it to the 12.9 and I am not disappointed.

If you can manage it go for the new one.
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I Personally did not feel that the 12.9 iPad Pro needed to change physically a lot from the first generation 12.9 iPad. I think Apple did a great job adding Tru-tone, the 120 HZ display, wider P3 color gamut, and upgraded camera. It's a lot more refined then it First was and for the better.
 
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Channan said:
Spread out over the amount of space it takes up, yes, 1.5 pounds is heavy for extended use.
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It really does not feel that much weightier than the 10.5" -- 1.5 lbs was the weight of the original iPad in 2010. I thought that the weight would be a problem -- it does not bother me at all. And it is still very compact and fits in the same small book satchel I used for my 9.7" iPad. But to each his own. And nevertheless, the 1/2 lb weight increase is significant when compared against the smaller iPad.

I love the 12.9" screen and find it so much more usable than the smaller sized iPad. Even though the 10.5" is larger -- I look at it like the difference between the 11" Macbook Air and the 13" (way back when I used one of those models) -- I simply found the 11" too small for comfort. That is my very personal experience. I like a big screen.

I have the first 12.9" and I'm not upgrading until they do a bezel reduction like they did for the 10.5". That should shave off a few ounces and make the whole a little narrower. I think they'll do this whenever they get around to it. Who knows - maybe next year this time? I think that the 9.7" has been the big seller, and now the 10.5" is expected to fill that role; with the 12.9" receiving a significantly smaller portion of sales (and therefore less attention at Apple in terms of refresh).

I don't know this for a fact - Apple doesn't release model sales information. Just based on what I see - I see mostly the standard 9.7" and now the 10.5" - yes, I've already seen some out and about!
 
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masotime said:
(Ignores mudslinging)

I just got the new 12.9" Pro yesterday. I've seen it already at my local Apple Store, but the differences in person are more pronounced. It feels significantly faster.

This is probably a combination of the A10X and ProMotion. Still, if you're on the fence, the deciding factor is whether or not:
  • You find it too slow
  • You need more space than your current iPad Pro
If neither of the above are true, then getting the new 12.9" is a bit of a mixed bag. I'd suggest visiting your local Apple Store and / or evaluating your current storage requirements.
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TBH, how could anyone find the 1st gen 12.9” iPP to be slow? It’s running A9X with 4GB of RAM... And iOS runs pretty solid. Now, Needing more space is valid factor.. but I know for me, my reasoning is what you mention with ProMotion. I know running iOS 11 with ProMotion will be a better experience.
 
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Ludatyk said:
TBH, how could anyone find the 1st gen 12.9” iPP to be slow? It’s running A9X with 4GB of RAM... And iOS runs pretty solid. Now, Needing more space is valid factor.. but I know for me, my reasoning is what you mention with ProMotion. I know running iOS 11 with ProMotion will be a better experience.
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Well I don't disagree. I think the 1st gen is plenty fast, but after using the 2nd gen... it somehow manages to be faster. It's hard to describe, you have to use it to feel it.
 
masotime said:
Well I don't disagree. I think the 1st gen is plenty fast, but after using the 2nd gen... it somehow manages to be faster. It's hard to describe, you have to use it to feel it.
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After a couple of days with the 10.5 iPad I don't even wanna touch my 1st gen 12.9" anymore because it SEEMS to be so slow and outdated. And I remember very well how fast it felt just before I got the new one. It must be the 120hz thing, it's insane how good it feels.
 
FriendlyMackle said:
It really does not feel that much weightier than the 10.5" -- 1.5 lbs was the weight of the original iPad in 2010. I thought that the weight would be a problem -- it does not bother me at all. And it is still very compact and fits in the same small book satchel I used for my 9.7" iPad. But to each his own. And nevertheless, the 1/2 lb weight increase is significant when compared against the smaller iPad.

I love the 12.9" screen and find it so much more usable than the smaller sized iPad. Even though the 10.5" is larger -- I look at it like the difference between the 11" Macbook Air and the 13" (way back when I used one of those models) -- I simply found the 11" too small for comfort. That is my very personal experience. I like a big screen.

I have the first 12.9" and I'm not upgrading until they do a bezel reduction like they did for the 10.5". That should shave off a few ounces and make the whole a little narrower. I think they'll do this whenever they get around to it. Who knows - maybe next year this time? I think that the 9.7" has been the big seller, and now the 10.5" is expected to fill that role; with the 12.9" receiving a significantly smaller portion of sales (and therefore less attention at Apple in terms of refresh).

I don't know this for a fact - Apple doesn't release model sales information. Just based on what I see - I see mostly the standard 9.7" and now the 10.5" - yes, I've already seen some out and about!
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As my original post mentioned, it's not just the weight increase, but the bigger size as well that makes it feel even heavier. The 12.9" iPad weights the same as the original iPad, but the original was smaller so it didn't feel quite as heavy. That's why my dad's 10.5" iPad feels ever so slightly heavier than my iPad Air 2, even though they weigh the same.

To better explain what I'm saying, grab the end of a tree branch and hold it parallel to the ground. That makes it feel a whole lot heavier than if you grabbed the middle of the branch and did the same thing.

Apply that to iPads and a 12.9" tablet is going to feel noticeably heavier than a 9.7" iPad of the same weight.
 
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