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Djs621

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Jun 7, 2008
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Can u include some kind of function that allows you track your rounds so that you can develop a handicap?
 

jfyeh

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Jul 28, 2008
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Currently we are waiting approval from Apple so that we can release the app to the public. Best case scenario will be any day now, worst case will be sometime next week.

Right now we are just doing GPS/range finder. In the next release we will have scorecard functionality and hopefully handicap information.

Everyone keep your eyes peeled on the App store. :)
 

BG-Mac

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Jul 31, 2007
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Currently we are waiting approval from Apple so that we can release the app to the public. Best case scenario will be any day now, worst case will be sometime next week.

Right now we are just doing GPS/range finder. In the next release we will have scorecard functionality and hopefully handicap information.

Everyone keep your eyes peeled on the App store. :)

YESSS!!!! CANNOT WAIT!!!!! Just in time to use with my new AP2s.. :D

Any more info on accuracy to things like bunkers, water, front/back of green, etc.?
 

echeck

macrumors 68000
Apr 20, 2004
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Boise, Idaho
I don't suppose this will work with the original iPhone?

The stinkin' cell tower triangulation probably wouldn't be accurate enough.

Stupid non-gps iPhone. :(
 

jfyeh

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Jul 28, 2008
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The old Iphone will not work. It does not have GPS capabilities. We need that accuracy to be useful.

The new ones are only $200. If you sell your old one you may come out even.
 

BG-Mac

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Jul 31, 2007
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I've got the AP2s as well, you are going to love them

Yeah I ordered them like 8 weeks ago and they've been on backorder. I'm supposed to receive them today. I've heard great things so I'm sure i'll love them. Now I just need Titleist to release the 909 lineup.. :D:D
 

Santa Rosa

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Aug 22, 2007
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Indiana
Not seeing Royal Dornoch in there lol. Guessing that you are just doing US courses at the moment? The course is one of the top 20 in the world though. And I live just 5 mins up the road from it :)
 

smt1192

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Jul 2, 2007
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This app looks good! One question though; Is the application going to run on a 3G/Edge/Wifi connection or are you going to tap where you are? If it uses a data service, battery life might be a problem.
 

erch63

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Aug 21, 2007
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I am in

I am in when it comes out looks very cool. One question though do you really add the courses I submitted within 48 hours or only after you receive a certain amount of requests?

Make that two questions, will the app allow remote downloads for the course or will it have to be done via sync?
 

jfyeh

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Jul 28, 2008
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We will download the course info based on what the iphone is using. If you are close to a wireless network and logged into it then it will use that but if not it'll use the 3G service to get the states and courses.

We will try and add all courses that are requested. It may not be as fast as 48 hours but we will add courses based on any number of requests.

All the courses are pulled from a web server. Once a course a course has been added to the database it should be accessible via the web server. None of the courses are stored locally.
 

detz

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Jun 29, 2007
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Wouldn't it make sense to store them locally? I know a lot of the courses I go to are in the middle of the boonies and I doubt I will get a decent connection. The ability to download and save courses might be a deal breaker.

How are you doing the course information...if you don't mind me asking? Out of curiously for accuracy.
 

ajnvt

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Jul 10, 2008
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I requested that a course be added last week, and it looks like it's already up. Great job, guys. The other course that I requested doesn't have a hole layout online, which looks like hurts its chances for inclusion. Hope the program is almost through approval, I can't wait.
 

BG-Mac

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Jul 31, 2007
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I tried asking this question in this thread several times, and even PMed the developer but got no response. What's the deal with ACCURACY?? He stated earlier that it was +/- 10 yards, but what about to points other than hole location? Like front/back of green, bunkers, water, etc. I read on another site that the best case scenario for a golf gps app would be +/- 10 yards to any pint. So if this is the case it may be useless to me.
 

Santa Rosa

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Aug 22, 2007
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I tried asking this question in this thread several times, and even PMed the developer but got no response. What's the deal with ACCURACY?? He stated earlier that it was +/- 10 yards, but what about to points other than hole location? Like front/back of green, bunkers, water, etc. I read on another site that the best case scenario for a golf gps app would be +/- 10 yards to any pint. So if this is the case it may be useless to me.

Hot shot golfer ehh lol. Just playing, but I see where you are coming from with that.
 

jfyeh

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Jul 28, 2008
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Right now the only course that is saved locally is your "favorite". If you think you will be out in the middle of no where go ahead and set that course as your favorite and it should download it locally.I think we will allow downloading of multiple courses in the next release.


There are a lot of factors when using GPS with golf. There's the GPS portion which only gives you an accuracy of up to a few feet at best, and 10 yards in a in a worst case scenario. That we cannot change. The hole locations change from time to time at certain hole on certain courses. Unless we are notified or we go back and change we won't know where the hole is. As a result are are calculating to the middle of the green.

With all that being said we tested it this past Monday and it was dead on. We were standing on top of a 150 yard marker and it tool displayed 150 yards. Best case scenario can be right on the spot.
 

d21mike

macrumors 68040
Jul 11, 2007
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Torrance, CA
There are a lot of factors when using GPS with golf. There's the GPS portion which only gives you an accuracy of up to a few feet at best, and 10 yards in a in a worst case scenario. That we cannot change. The hole locations change from time to time at certain hole on certain courses. Unless we are notified or we go back and change we won't know where the hole is. As a result are are calculating to the middle of the green.

Your answers seem to be comflicting each other. You said earlier that the accuracy is +/- 10 yards. Now you are saying that it can be a few feet at best and 10 yards at worst. What I have heard is that the GPS Unit in the iPhone is not as accurate as other GPS Units. Like say the one in the SkyCaddie.

There are a number of Golf Applications in the store (most have said GPS in next release) and I plan to try 2-3 of them (I just like toys like this). I currently have a SkyCaddie and plan to compare the accuracy of the GPS Units.

Have you gotten any information from Apple on the accuracy of the GPS Unit in the Phone?

Also, Pin Placement should not have anything to do with this part of the conversation. If you have an accurate GPS Unit then your application should provide front/middle/back of each green like all other Golf GPS Applications.
 

d21mike

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Jul 11, 2007
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Torrance, CA
Subtract total hole yardage from distance to green yardage. That is your distance from tee. Simple math.

I don't think so. I think this would only be true if you hit the ball "directly" in line from the tee and the pin (not normally done by most and in some cases not a good idea). GPS is "as the crow flies" not taking into account dog legs. Other Golf GPS Products (like the SkyCaddie) allow you to Mark your current ball location and then Mark again at the point where you hit the drive (or iron shot) and it then calculates the distance. Of course this is only as accurate as the GPS Unit.
 

scotty96LSC

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Oct 24, 2007
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Only of a few of the San Antonio Tracks are listed. I may weight on this one.
But sure sounds a lot better than Skycaddie or some other GPS. Maybe you can get Natalie Gulbis to prop this?
 

hotsauce

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Sep 7, 2005
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Right now the only course that is saved locally is your "favorite". If you think you will be out in the middle of no where go ahead and set that course as your favorite and it should download it locally.I think we will allow downloading of multiple courses in the next release.


There are a lot of factors when using GPS with golf. There's the GPS portion which only gives you an accuracy of up to a few feet at best, and 10 yards in a in a worst case scenario. That we cannot change. The hole locations change from time to time at certain hole on certain courses. Unless we are notified or we go back and change we won't know where the hole is. As a result are are calculating to the middle of the green.

With all that being said we tested it this past Monday and it was dead on. We were standing on top of a 150 yard marker and it tool displayed 150 yards. Best case scenario can be right on the spot.

Just as Mike above me pointed out, the pin position is irrelevant in discussing the accuracy. If you know how skycaddie works, you will understand this. Leave pin position out of it and just measure to front middle and back of the green. It is up to us to determine where pin position is. From reading some of your posts, I get the feeling that you are not very familiar with how a typical golf rangefinders work. Regardless, I'm very excited and hope that you hit the mark with this program.
 

golfmapz

macrumors newbie
Jul 25, 2008
5
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The measurement will be done from the center of the green to your current location (as the crow flies).

Golf GPS applications do have some limitations ... for example, say I hit the ball 30 yards to the left of the green. At that point, the "front" and "back" are really of no value to me as a golfer (unless an application has the whole green mapped out completely, each nook and cranny of curvature, which our app is not going to do).

Anyhow ... I can say that unless you are anal about 2 yards of difference, you are going to be happy with the accuracy of this application, and you will find it useful. Plus, it beats shelling out an extra few hundred bucks for a skycaddie :)

FYI: Application, by my best estimates, should be in the app store as early as monday. Never know for sure with Apple these days, but from other application creators, this is about the right timing for how long it takes to get reviewed and launched.

Rob
http://www.golfmapz.com
 

d21mike

macrumors 68040
Jul 11, 2007
3,320
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Torrance, CA
The measurement will be done from the center of the green to your current location (as the crow flies).

Golf GPS applications do have some limitations ... for example, say I hit the ball 30 yards to the left of the green. At that point, the "front" and "back" are really of no value to me as a golfer (unless an application has the whole green mapped out completely, each nook and cranny of curvature, which our app is not going to do).

Anyhow ... I can say that unless you are anal about 2 yards of difference, you are going to be happy with the accuracy of this application, and you will find it useful. Plus, it beats shelling out an extra few hundred bucks for a skycaddie :)

FYI: Application, by my best estimates, should be in the app store as early as monday. Never know for sure with Apple these days, but from other application creators, this is about the right timing for how long it takes to get reviewed and launched.

Rob
http://www.golfmapz.com

I know it may sound like I am pushing SkyCaddie but I am not. Just using them as a comparison. I would prefer to use my iPhone to collect detail stats and also be a range finder. So I really hope one of you comes up with a really nice product. The reason for my input is to hope that you do.
 

d21mike

macrumors 68040
Jul 11, 2007
3,320
356
Torrance, CA
The measurement will be done from the center of the green to your current location (as the crow flies).

Golf GPS applications do have some limitations ... for example, say I hit the ball 30 yards to the left of the green. At that point, the "front" and "back" are really of no value to me as a golfer (unless an application has the whole green mapped out completely, each nook and cranny of curvature, which our app is not going to do).

Anyhow ... I can say that unless you are anal about 2 yards of difference, you are going to be happy with the accuracy of this application, and you will find it useful. Plus, it beats shelling out an extra few hundred bucks for a skycaddie :)

FYI: Application, by my best estimates, should be in the app store as early as monday. Never know for sure with Apple these days, but from other application creators, this is about the right timing for how long it takes to get reviewed and launched.

Rob
http://www.golfmapz.com

I know it may sound like I am pushing SkyCaddie but I am not. Just using them as a comparison. I would prefer to use my iPhone to collect detail stats and also have it be a range finder. So I really hope one of you comes up with a really nice product. The reason for my input is in hope that you do.

First, Sky Caddie does mark the entire green so in your example, if you are 30 yards left the green the green, the green picture will rotate to match where you are hitting from. You can move the center marker to the actuall Pin position to make it more accurate. They also mark bunkers and other hazards.

Second, not good to call your potential customers anal. In any case we are not talking about 2 yards. Greens can be quite large and you want to get as close to the PIN as you can. Right?

Again, I really do wish you success and I plan to be one of your first customers as soon as it hit the App Store.

Please post here when it is up.
 
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