New Ceramic and Titanium Apple Watch Models Uncovered in watchOS 6 Beta

[wlossw]

Haha! I’m assuming they mean with the heart-monitoring features and health applications to the devices.

But yeah, the point is that a Rolex in 50 years is still a timeless collectible, functioning Rolex. It will always have use and be worth something. In even 5 years that Apple Watch isn’t going to work as intended. It’s a throwaway. People spending the absurd amounts of cash on them are just wealthy culturally adapted brainwashed IMO. It’s a thing. Needing, craving status as some form of personal gratification and measurement of success. Those are the people spending $1300 on the throwaway Apple watches.

Owning a Rolex and keeping it in working order is a substantial continuing cost. Even a stainless steel one will start over 8k, and the 7 year service cost is 800$.

Don’t think a Rolex is a 1 time cost...

That being said in the case of the more expensive and rare Rolex watches, the resale value might increase enough over time to actually be more than you paid...

I have several watches. (Don’t have a Rolex anymore) but I only wear 1 of my apple watches now. I am happy with them all (I have sold 2 and have 3 ATM) the only thing that would make me upgrade this year was titanium... it’s like they read my mind.

Ps I don’t give a d*** about status.

 

[btrach144]

Agreed. Apple should’ve handled its own returns not brighthand.



Oh yeah super expensive. Quite possibly new bands (incompatible) next year.

Interested to see what makes you think it won’t work with the 2020 watch? The only rumors about next year are a micro led.

with titanium possibly replacing a weaker stainless steel, they can make the surrounding band holders thinner while still keeping the same sized band holders. That’s my bet as to why they’re switching to a stronger material. They want to keep current band material but reduce the bulk around the band holder area that currently adds support.

 

[lordofthereef]

I sure hope we continue to have stainless. Of, if not, a sapphire screen front. It's the only reason I care about the chassis at all. These watches are too disposable for me to buy them as a fashion piece.

 

[wlossw]

Interested to see what makes you think it won’t work with the 2020 watch? The only rumors about next year are a micro led.

with titanium possibly replacing a weaker stainless steel, they can make the surrounding band holders thinner while still keeping the same sized band holders. That’s my bet as to why they’re switching to a stronger material. They want to keep current band material but reduce the bulk around the band holder area that currently adds support.

The best thing about titanium is that it’s amazingly light for its strength... I have a tissot watch made of titanium and prior to Apple Watch it was my favourite in terms of comfort.

 

[AFDoc]

Bingo. I bet Rose Gold will come back someday too.

that would make my wife very happy. She was very disappointed when the new model(s) were missing rose gold.

 

[Abazigal]

Haha! I’m assuming they mean with the heart-monitoring features and health applications to the devices.

But yeah, the point is that a Rolex in 50 years is still a timeless collectible, functioning Rolex. It will always have use and be worth something. In even 5 years that Apple Watch isn’t going to work as intended. It’s a throwaway. People spending the absurd amounts of cash on them are just wealthy culturally adapted brainwashed IMO. It’s a thing. Needing, craving status as some form of personal gratification and measurement of success. Those are the people spending $1300 on the throwaway Apple watches.

So let me get this straight - people spending $1000 on an Apple Watch are vain and brainwashed, but those spending 10 times that on a status symbol which does nothing beyond telling time, aren’t?

I meant, if its function we want, why not just wear a $20 Casio watch?

 

[tresmith]

When will Apple learn that demand for the highest end model(s) will never be high when they do the exact same thing as the cheapest model.

Apple Watch should have been made strictly a luxury item with a $1000 price point.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Interested to see what makes you think it won’t work with the 2020 watch? The only rumors about next year are a micro led.

with titanium possibly replacing a weaker stainless steel, they can make the surrounding band holders thinner while still keeping the same sized band holders. That’s my bet as to why they’re switching to a stronger material. They want to keep current band material but reduce the bulk around the band holder area that currently adds support.

Thinner precisely that.

A thinner AWatch slows for a larger battery without bulk. Furthermore more information on a larger screen and better touch interaction (I’m thinking largest 52mm and 46mm to accommodate). Unless the rumoured Samsung graphene battery is real and debuted.

A wider watch will undoubtedly require a wider band not really for strength yet for stability n comfort.

Remember many of us didn’t think 40/44mm case would occur yet it did with this amazing S4 models. I cannot wait to see how advanced and how quickly the Watch + VR glasses in the future begin to replace the iPhone.

 

[Velli]

The fact that there is two materials mentioned gives me hope that at least one of them will not be as premium as the previous Edition. I am hypersensitive to Nickel, and had to sell my Apple Watch 4 aluminum after a month. Steel is a non-starter. Ceramic and Titanium should be fine (I have a titanium watch currently without issues). I have actually been considering getting a 3 Edition second hand, but after owning a 4, it just feels like a letdown... A titanium 5 for less than 600 USD, and I’m in. 1000+ for an “edition” is a no-go for me.

(Above is purely personal reflections, not what I believe Apple could or should do).

 

[iName]

I prefer the stainless steel watch over the aluminum, it just looks way better on the wrist so it’s definitely worth the premium. Also the stainless steel watches have the sapphire crystal screen so you don’t have to worry about scratches! But that also means I upgrade less frequently. I had the series 0 stainless steel then upgraded to the series 3 when performance started to degrade. Don’t think I’ll need to upgrade again until maybe series 6 since mine is still working like a charm.

 

[fokmik]

Its just show t

Ha! Give me a break. I manage a diabetes and heart failure clinic, I see plenty of patients with Bluetooth glucose meters and Apple Watches who still can’t get their act together about diet and exercise.

Omegas and Rolex diver watches help you live longer too.... they have an immovable dial that tells you how much oxygen is left in your tank when you’re underwater.

We will give you a break since your watch don’t take care of you.Rolex the poor man choice thats never helps you or your investment ..in a world with Patek Philippe and others
Apple watch saves lives, rolex omega didn’t even tell you to take break. Yea live longer
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Owning a Rolex and keeping it in working order is a substantial continuing cost. Even a stainless steel one will start over 8k, and the 7 year service cost is 800$.

Don’t think a Rolex is a 1 time cost...

That being said in the case of the more expensive and rare Rolex watches, the resale value might increase enough over time to actually be more than you paid...

I have several watches. (Don’t have a Rolex anymore) but I only wear 1 of my apple watches now. I am happy with them all (I have sold 2 and have 3 ATM) the only thing that would make me upgrade this year was titanium... it’s like they read my mind.

Ps I don’t give a d*** about status.

Agree 100% it shows who has real watch and who is talking just subjectively

 

[fokmik]

Buy an Patek Philippe 5320G or a functional apple watch or don’t buy anything

 

[Dkka1]

Ha! Give me a break. I manage a diabetes and heart failure clinic, I see plenty of patients with Bluetooth glucose meters and Apple Watches who still can’t get their act together about diet and exercise.

Omegas and Rolex diver watches help you live longer too.... they have an immovable dial that tells you how much oxygen is left in your tank when you’re underwater.

Hahaha! You better check the oxygen bottle’s manometer mate.

 

[ianday]

If Apple offered a service whereby the logic board could be replaced in the future (to retain speed if nothing else) I'm sure more people would part money for the stainless steel/ceramic models.

Heck, if they offered it from day one, then even the gold 'Edition' model would at least have some value...

I was thinking the same thing when the gold edition came out. Would have made sense if they had a recycle plan where people bring in their old gold edition and pay a small upgrade fee for the new edition. It was ridiculous to bring out a gold watch that would be obsolete after a year.

 

[Dkka1]

When will Apple learn that demand for the highest end model(s) will never be high when they do the exact same thing as the cheapest model.

Apple Watch should have been made strictly a luxury item with a $1000 price point.

Are $1000 a price for a luxury wristwatch though? It should be at the very least $5000.

Apple is not in the luxury business. They’re in the mass market premium products business. Apple is VW/average Audi, not Bentley.

The target audience for a Rolex Daytona would probably buy $3000 iPhones if the had wow features and were recognizable. Do you think Apple should focus on them?

 

[Neodym]

yes but the key difference that I can see is the series two was still painfully slow so the series 3 being much faster made a big difference. The series 4 is already so fast I don’t see there being a speed increase like the series 2 -> series 3 upgrade.

There was more to the S3 than only a speed increase. Even if the S5 may not offer that much of a big speed bump over S4, silicon improvements are still a possibility (including efficiency & size improvements).

And while those improvements may not speed up all existing apps and use cases, they may allow for additional use cases not possible with the existing hardware (e.g. new health-related sensors, better battery life, camera, better WLan support etc. pp.).

And with the fast pace of technology progress in the wearable sector, I expect S5 to offer a sufficiently attractive improvement package to both sway existing Apple Watch owners (including S4) and attract new first-time buyers.

 

[Aniseedvan]

I prefer the stainless steel watch over the aluminum, it just looks way better on the wrist so it’s definitely worth the premium. Also the stainless steel watches have the sapphire crystal screen so you don’t have to worry about scratches! But that also means I upgrade less frequently. I had the series 0 stainless steel then upgraded to the series 3 when performance started to degrade. Don’t think I’ll need to upgrade again until maybe series 6 since mine is still working like a charm.

Exactly where I’m sitting at the moment. For an everyday watch, I feel the sapphire is essential for me. I just wish they’d do a non-LTE version as I don’t really need that...

 

[Darach]

I have a stainless steel Apple watch of the original design (Series 0, I believe), and it still performs perfectly. I have not yet seen a reason to upgrade, and the LTE service is not available in my country. Were I to change, I would be looking for a stainless steel case again, but it seems to no longer be available. The aluminum cases do not appeal to me.
I stiil have an Apple II computer, but it is no longer functional.

 

[PastaPrimav]

I never understood why someone would purchase a high end smart watch. High end watches like Rolex and omega are timeless, smart watches are not. Dropping $1300+ on a watch that will be obsolete in 2-3 years doesn’t seem like a great investment.

What? Not a great investment to pay $1 a day for a device that you wear 16 hours a day for 3 years?

You're very, very confused.

 

[imola.zhp]

We've only ever bought the aluminum watches in my family and I've been so amazed at how they have held up. I don't think I could justify paying more for Titanium or Ceramic. I loved the way the ceramic watches looked, white and black, but I also trade too often, every two years is too quick IMO when spending that much money. Phone costs are bad enough as it is.

 

[routine_analyst]

I guess this is an improvement over the current "Aluminum & Ceramic Case" variant.

 

[venom600]

I like the weight of the aluminum but I don't like the durability. The glass face is too fragile. I won't buy another watch without a sapphire face, and I love the look of stainless. Given how long I keep them (I'm still using the original that I got on launch day in 2015), spending more seems to make sense.

 

[ZeitGeist]

Apple Watch should have been made strictly a luxury item with a $1000 price point.

Yeah, they tried that - it flopped terribly.

Great suggestion. Not.

 

[HVDynamo]

OLED:

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/16/apple-watch-series-5-oled-kuo/

All apple watches use OLED already, this is just a supplier change/addition. I can understand them mentioning it, but it really isn't anything exciting.
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Very curious about the Ti model...but never saw value in spending more $$ for SS or Ceramic when I upgrade every year. The aluminum is nice and light, too.

But I’ve been swayed by new shiny Apple stuff before, haha!!

It’s the most wonderful time of the year!! New iPhone, new AW. Wahoo.

I'm still on my S0 Stainless Steel, I am really happy with the upgrade to Stainless Steel though. I've scraped the screen on so many walls, and still not a scratch, the Sapphire is really the reason to get the upgrade. I was planning on getting an S5 Stainless Steel when it comes out. But maybe it will be titanium now, we will see what the prices come out to be. That said, I don't plan on spending $100's more yet for Titanium if it's pricier than the Stainless Steel.

 

[Tech198]

Didn't Apple learn from the 24K "celebratory" watch that was out of the price range of your average consumer? This Ceramic one and Titanium may solve that, but if the price is too high for people, then forget it.

May be over half the cost of 24K disaster. but i think paying that price for a watch is just too high still