Alright, so here are a few screenies. Look at the gold levels. Note that in order to save gold early in the game I have left the field with so little defense at times so that some creatures has been allowed in to heaven. It's not necessary, but saving gold is important. Also be informed that on several of the screens there's too much defense on the field. I chicken out at times.
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New Free Tower Defesne Game - TapDefense
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Awesome game. Is fieldrunners really better than TapDefense? I might buy it.
This game got me hooked. I was playing for 2 hours straight. Lost a lot of times until I realized I shouldn't upgrade until level 20. I just kept adding more and more interest. That way, the money really adds up and then you can cover the whole thing with arrows, storm, bombs, water and ice towers. I never used the magic tower. One thing I don't get is how people managed to get a million points as their high score. That really confused me. I ended up around 5700. Time to go to Medium.
This game got me hooked. I was playing for 2 hours straight. Lost a lot of times until I realized I shouldn't upgrade until level 20. I just kept adding more and more interest. That way, the money really adds up and then you can cover the whole thing with arrows, storm, bombs, water and ice towers. I never used the magic tower. One thing I don't get is how people managed to get a million points as their high score. That really confused me. I ended up around 5700. Time to go to Medium.
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CoBPEZ, thanks for the screens, I'm so confused with how you possibly have so much money. Your screenshot on level 29 shows that you have over 4,000 gold. How can you possibly have so much and have so many towers on the board? I increase my interest rate when possible, but it still doesn't get me anywhere near that amount of gold. Any tips??
Guide to increase gold
1. Not to use up all $$, just add what you need, Use "pause" & add towers if not enough towers defense. (more interest earn after each level)
2. Research "interest" early
(my reserch sequence is magic, ice, $$, $$, storm....)
3. (may be bugs on the game)
When you have over $107 (level 3/4...)
before level start, create arrow tower, upgrade to max.
Before the last monster to death, "pause" and sell the arrow tower (make sure you have other tower to kill the last one).
So, it will have more interest earn after level finish. and sell the arrow will have $108! (1 dollar more for use to create and upgrade the tower)
and I use "this bug", will have over $40,000 at the last level 43.
1. Not to use up all $$, just add what you need, Use "pause" & add towers if not enough towers defense. (more interest earn after each level)
2. Research "interest" early
(my reserch sequence is magic, ice, $$, $$, storm....)
3. (may be bugs on the game)
When you have over $107 (level 3/4...)
before level start, create arrow tower, upgrade to max.
Before the last monster to death, "pause" and sell the arrow tower (make sure you have other tower to kill the last one).
So, it will have more interest earn after level finish. and sell the arrow will have $108! (1 dollar more for use to create and upgrade the tower)
and I use "this bug", will have over $40,000 at the last level 43.
That's cheating. Maybe it explains those mega scores on the online high score tables? And you don't need to cheat to get over $40.000.
firteen: I might add that those four screen shots are from the same session. Can you, so far, get to level 12 with 400+ gold? Since interest builds on interest it's more important to save money in the start of the game than towards the end. I think my spending pattern is often that I put fully upgraded towers in place then I don't spend anything for a few rounds and then one or two towers fully upgraded. I made this spread sheet to try to demonstrate:
Tap Defense Gold Calculator
Note that the actual spendings are not from a real run, just "fake" to show how a spending pattern can build large piles of gold. The formula I use in the spreadsheet is:
(Earn + Last Score - Spent gold) * Interest
As I don't know how much gold you earn during a round (it varies of course) I used 40 in the spreadsheet. And the interest increase points are "fake" too. maybe if we spent some time in the spread sheet we can get it more accurate. But it proves the point, right?
firteen: I might add that those four screen shots are from the same session. Can you, so far, get to level 12 with 400+ gold? Since interest builds on interest it's more important to save money in the start of the game than towards the end. I think my spending pattern is often that I put fully upgraded towers in place then I don't spend anything for a few rounds and then one or two towers fully upgraded. I made this spread sheet to try to demonstrate:
Tap Defense Gold Calculator
Note that the actual spendings are not from a real run, just "fake" to show how a spending pattern can build large piles of gold. The formula I use in the spreadsheet is:
(Earn + Last Score - Spent gold) * Interest
As I don't know how much gold you earn during a round (it varies of course) I used 40 in the spreadsheet. And the interest increase points are "fake" too. maybe if we spent some time in the spread sheet we can get it more accurate. But it proves the point, right?
Okay. Well after playing this game for many MANY hours. I've beaten EASY and MEDIUM modes. But i keep ending up at level 30 on HARD though..
Heres a little guide in order to win either Easy or Medium.
-REMEMBER, Use little defense as much as possible to save Gold.
-Always reasearch Interest FIRST. (on easy you research it TWICE)
Then Ice. Then Storm. And then Magic.
[Why you ask? Simple. The first 20 levels only require the basic towers.]
-Make sure you get about 1,500 Gold before level 30 because you'll need the money for 2 upgraded storm towers.
[The Storm towers are VERY VERY VERY Important because they remove 25% of a monsters current HP at every hit. That is very useful when you have about 2 storm towers (One is lvl2, the other is lvl3). Have them near the HellGate with a around 1-2 Ice towers to make sure the Storm towers have done enough Damage.
-Keep your gold over 700 each level to keep your interest high.
-How about Magic towers? Yes they are useful! sell all your arrow towers for them.
-Try building an additional 2 maxed or lvl2 Storm towers before level 43.
-Basically all you need is a combination of ICE, STORM and CANNON/MAGIC Towers.
Ill post a few screenies later on because i think i dont explain well enough lol.
My english is... well... I'm Filipino. Thats all i can say.
Heres a little guide in order to win either Easy or Medium.
-REMEMBER, Use little defense as much as possible to save Gold.
-Always reasearch Interest FIRST. (on easy you research it TWICE)
Then Ice. Then Storm. And then Magic.
[Why you ask? Simple. The first 20 levels only require the basic towers.]
-Make sure you get about 1,500 Gold before level 30 because you'll need the money for 2 upgraded storm towers.
[The Storm towers are VERY VERY VERY Important because they remove 25% of a monsters current HP at every hit. That is very useful when you have about 2 storm towers (One is lvl2, the other is lvl3). Have them near the HellGate with a around 1-2 Ice towers to make sure the Storm towers have done enough Damage.
-Keep your gold over 700 each level to keep your interest high.
-How about Magic towers? Yes they are useful! sell all your arrow towers for them.
-Try building an additional 2 maxed or lvl2 Storm towers before level 43.
-Basically all you need is a combination of ICE, STORM and CANNON/MAGIC Towers.
Ill post a few screenies later on because i think i dont explain well enough lol.
My english is... well... I'm Filipino. Thats all i can say.
Well, of course you don't actually need Storm towers at all (as is evident on my screen shots above). But, yes, they are very powerful. Especially when fully upgraded.
There are lots of ways to beat the game. Once you get good at building interest you can be quite sloppy on Easy and even on Medium. But so far I can't beat the game consistently on Hard. I've beaten it with a good margin twice, but then most of the times I try I fail. Feels a bit stupid, but I'll figure it out eventually. =)
I just don't seem to get much money at all. I try not to add/upgrade towers but then the enemies make it to the hell gate so I have to.
CoBPEZ, I've gotten around 340 gold at level 12, but then I need to use it to build/upgrade towers so at level 13 I'm back at 0 gold. I can't figure out where I'm going wrong.
CoBPEZ, I've gotten around 340 gold at level 12, but then I need to use it to build/upgrade towers so at level 13 I'm back at 0 gold. I can't figure out where I'm going wrong.
Try place your first towers so that they do "double duty". Like cover both the gate from Hell and the middle path. 340 at level 12 is good, but it depends a bit on how your towers are placed then. Take a screen shot and show us. Maybe we see some room for improvement.
Just beat it on hard with $300k and 19 lives and I only got 67K points.. how are they getting MILLIONS of points? This is before the interest on the last level that bumped me up.. I didn't realize I got 2 halos I could have bumped my interest rate up to 35% but still that wouldn't have gotten me millions of points.. what are they doing to get such high scores
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Cheating, basically. Using the arrow tower exploit in the beginning to inflate their starting gold, and throughout the middle taking advantage of it by selling all upgraded arrow towers to maximize their gold. After 40 levels of doing that, they're holding onto millions of gold already, and the interest is causing their score to be inflated artificially.
Divide your interest by 5, that's how much of your score for that level came from interest.
Hopefully this exploit will be fixed...but in the meantime, it does mean quite a bit of fun. I used it to get enough interest to have an Easy battlefield filled up with fully upgraded Magic towers. That was funny
The politicians had no chance...Since we have the attention of the developers here, and there isn't an official TapJoy.com yet, I figured I could post suggestions here...
1. iPhone's got a hefty processor, but I notice a lot of lag when there's a lot of activity on the screen (e.g. enemies all along the path, and towers everywhere shooting at them) - can this be tweaked and improved at all? It drives me nuts
2. I noticed if I close the app at the "Congratulations, you dominated TapDefense" screen, and try to reenter it, the game crashes and I need to reboot the phone to get back. Would it be because, perhaps, it's attempting to "save" a finished game, and then having a problem getting back to it?
3. Building a mass number of towers is somewhat tedious, especially to upgrade them. Can we get an "Upgrade" and/or "Another" button next to "Finalize"? the Another button being a duplicate of the tower that was just built...including any upgrades.
4. If I have an excess of towers on hand, and strong enemies, but more than enough power to kill each one with one shot, all of the towers still fire at the front-most enemy, killing him 3 times over. Could the tower AI be adjusted to account for what else is shooting at it, and if it's going to be dead, pick the next enemy?
5. Internet access is a little spotty for me. If I don't have internet access, but I finish a killer game, I'm out of luck unless I just don't use the phone at all until I get back home to get a signal with my wifi. Could local scores be saved to sync to the network later?
6. An extra "Endless" level might be fun as an optional bonus after the Politicians. It ends when one reaches Heaven, doesn't affect your ending life count, and gives you a chance to increase your final score. The enemies should be 10,000 strength politician-like (fast) and resist everything, so as to give a large bounty in your gold and your score when killed.
7. Enemies that resist ice or water shouldn't be slowed down by them in the hard difficulty level.
8. Once you fix the arrow tower exploit, clear the high score lists (both local and network)
9. Put in an "Insane" mode that you can unlock when you beat Easy, Medium, and Hard, give them 10,000 gold to start with, all towers available, and make it so they can spend that gold and build those towers only in the first level.
10. Probably way out of left field here, but maybe make a mode or a game where YOU are the creatures trying to get past the tower defenses.
I'd pay a couple dollars for a game with a lot of these suggestions. I'd bet a lot of other people would, too. I'm a developer and I'd be willing to help. I love these kinds of games as much as you guys do
I finally beat Easy, Medium and Hard. I was almost hoping for an endless level, like on level 43, the evil politicians could just keep coming, getting more and more powerful.
If you have 99 cents, be sure to try the updated Mote-M (which stands for Mote Massacre.) It was the first great Tower Defense apps but with simpler graphics.
Beware, the motes always seem to win in the end.
Of course if you have $4.99, get Fieldrunners.
If you have 99 cents, be sure to try the updated Mote-M (which stands for Mote Massacre.) It was the first great Tower Defense apps but with simpler graphics.
Beware, the motes always seem to win in the end.
Of course if you have $4.99, get Fieldrunners.
I finally beat easy!! It wasn't so hard once I got past levels 29,30,31. Thanks to CoBPEZ and everyone else for the helpful tips.
Not using the Arrow Tower "Cheating" can still beat it but only a little harder.
Here is my nethod:
In first 20 Level, add the arrow towers will a little other towers can already handle it. When you have 4-5 arrow towers with full upgrade and 1-2 ice towers. It already kill most.
In 20-30 level, saving as much as possible, adding 1-2 arrow towers or upgrade other towers if necessary, also need some magic towers, as long range and fastest.
over 30 level build storm towers if necessary
at level 43 got 3-4 storm towers with full upgrade, then it should be win.
my hits,
Bomb & storm tower should near the start location
ice tower better put in corner area (cover more path)
Prefer upgrade then add new tower, since the damage is more for
1 upgrade tower then 2 new towers
upgrade the towers first which cover more in the path
place towers near to ice towers as can have more attack take place
may not be the best method, at least I use it to beat all.
hope the arrow tower selling bug will be fixed, like sell price is $80.
so, you can't earn $ to sell it. I guess the developer leave "this bug"
for some people have fun on it. (This is a game.)
Here is my nethod:
In first 20 Level, add the arrow towers will a little other towers can already handle it. When you have 4-5 arrow towers with full upgrade and 1-2 ice towers. It already kill most.
In 20-30 level, saving as much as possible, adding 1-2 arrow towers or upgrade other towers if necessary, also need some magic towers, as long range and fastest.
over 30 level build storm towers if necessary
at level 43 got 3-4 storm towers with full upgrade, then it should be win.
my hits,
Bomb & storm tower should near the start location
ice tower better put in corner area (cover more path)
Prefer upgrade then add new tower, since the damage is more for
1 upgrade tower then 2 new towers
upgrade the towers first which cover more in the path
place towers near to ice towers as can have more attack take place
may not be the best method, at least I use it to beat all.
hope the arrow tower selling bug will be fixed, like sell price is $80.
so, you can't earn $ to sell it. I guess the developer leave "this bug"
for some people have fun on it. (This is a game.)
think there is a better solution
It's very detailed solution for easy level now - http://tapdeftips.com/?page_id=4
Other is still processing and comming soon.
It's very detailed solution for easy level now - http://tapdeftips.com/?page_id=4
Other is still processing and comming soon.
Could anybody propose good strategy for hard?
For me it works doing what I do on easy and medium, just give the Scrooge in me even more room to roam. The interest rate starts out on 15% on Hard. Utilize that.
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this is a rad game. finally beat easy. I had like 6k left in gold, 20 men, and almost every block filled with weapons. saving as much money as possible and spend first 4 halos on interest (by level 36 had about 10k gold to spend), then ice, then storm, then magic, then for fun used earthquake but the enemy never made it that far to use it. I used storm in front, never sold anything and tried to place things were they would get a max use.
BUT I ONLY GOT 7k points. how in the heck are people getting 500k?
this is a rad game. finally beat easy. I had like 6k left in gold, 20 men, and almost every block filled with weapons. saving as much money as possible and spend first 4 halos on interest (by level 36 had about 10k gold to spend), then ice, then storm, then magic, then for fun used earthquake but the enemy never made it that far to use it. I used storm in front, never sold anything and tried to place things were they would get a max use.
BUT I ONLY GOT 7k points. how in the heck are people getting 500k?
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Not all doing so well as you, guys.
Be sure, people are even interesting in Easy level tips on. I'd prove it by our time stats they are reading http://tapdeftips.com .
Think it'd be good to make public statistics and geomap of users.
We have much more good ideas!
Stay tuned.
Not all doing so well as you, guys.
Be sure, people are even interesting in Easy level tips on. I'd prove it by our time stats they are reading http://tapdeftips.com .
Think it'd be good to make public statistics and geomap of users.
We have much more good ideas!
Stay tuned.
i have been having a ball with this game for the last few days.
I always play sudden death. One guy gets through and I restart. People around me complain about me being a perfectionist - now I see why!
On easy, I do great staying focused on a couple of towers, and upgrade them. Put them in the square in the bottom right corner. One arrow, one cannon. Upgrade arrow first, then cannon. Then arrow to third level, then cannon to second. Use first upgrade for ice - drop it in the corner. stick to ice in the corners. You will do fine. Upgraded ice to third level and focus bombardment of cannons during their run along the bottom. Upgrade money till you need the earthquake. Don't get it till you have a few thousand (upgrade it to third level immediately, then just use ice and earthquake). Sell all the cannons.
I only use the arrow on the first few levels (till I get ice). Simple strategy - no one gets through - and if you do it well tons of cash. I had fun mastering it, challenging myself to never even let someone get past the middle road, and having thousands in cash leftover.
Love the game. Hoping for a couple more levels, and smoothing out the choppiness.
I always play sudden death. One guy gets through and I restart. People around me complain about me being a perfectionist - now I see why!
On easy, I do great staying focused on a couple of towers, and upgrade them. Put them in the square in the bottom right corner. One arrow, one cannon. Upgrade arrow first, then cannon. Then arrow to third level, then cannon to second. Use first upgrade for ice - drop it in the corner. stick to ice in the corners. You will do fine. Upgraded ice to third level and focus bombardment of cannons during their run along the bottom. Upgrade money till you need the earthquake. Don't get it till you have a few thousand (upgrade it to third level immediately, then just use ice and earthquake). Sell all the cannons.
I only use the arrow on the first few levels (till I get ice). Simple strategy - no one gets through - and if you do it well tons of cash. I had fun mastering it, challenging myself to never even let someone get past the middle road, and having thousands in cash leftover.
Love the game. Hoping for a couple more levels, and smoothing out the choppiness.
Code:
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET upgradeGoldCost=0;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET rateOfFire=10;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET range=500;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET damage=10000;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET splashDamage=50000;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET splashDamageRadius=500;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET hitSpeedModifier=99;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET splashSpeedModifier=99;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET duration=1000;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET sellValue=50000;
UPDATE "TowerUpgrade" SET effectivenessFactor=100;
UPDATE "EnemyRoster" SET hitpoints=50000;
UPDATE "EnemyRoster" SET monsterSpeed=1;
UPDATE "EnemyRoster" SET goldBonusForKill=100;
UPDATE "EnemyRoster" SET numberOfEnemies=100;
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(1,'Initial_Gold',50000);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(2,'Initial_Lives',99);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(3,'Starting_Interest',25);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(4,'Growth_Interest',10);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(5,'Selling_Percentage',200);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(7,'Score_Per_Gold',100);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(14,'pointPercentageForEarnedInterest',10);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(14,'levelCompletionBonus',50000);
REPLACE INTO "GameSetting" VALUES(14,'pointScoredPerGoldPerKill',2000);Download: http://sidonuke.com/cheat.sql
There's your teaser on how to hack the game...
EDIT: the configuration above is setup so you dont cheat the score. =)