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New iMac coming soon!
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I’m going to hold off till the end of November to see if perhaps there is a new iMac announced, I don’t mind being without a computer till then, the question is this though, Will the new redesigned ARM iMac be comparable in terms of performance to the intel i7 27 inch iMac configuration that is available for 2299$ today, I don’t have any special apps I’m using that requires intel so an ARM Based iMac makes sense in terms of future support from Apple and future proofing
I am not expecting to much from tomorrows event. Theres not going to be an IPhone 12, IMac, Mac Mini ect. The items tomorrow will be the watches and ipads. Other than that the main product event for AS and Iphone products will be later next month but even then im only expecting the Iphone, AS Macbook, and maybe the 24" AS Imac but my money is that both the 24" and 27/32" wont be announced until March 2021
Again.. I was on Apple building both a 21.5 & 27”. Both models wouldn’t ship until Oct 19th - 26th if ordered today. That’s a long way out. Even tho Apple just refreshed the 27” Would it be “normal Apple” to update both models at the same time using Apple silicon?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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I think it’s very unlikely. I would be very surprised if Apple already has chips powerful enough for the 27” iMac.
P.S. It’s silicon, not silicone
It is hard to say what is "normal", as these transitions only happened once before for the iMac.
Last time with the switch to Intel the time line went like this:
June 2005 - Apple announced switch to intel in 2006
Oct 2005 - Last iMac G5 was launched
Jan 2006 - First Intel iMac was Launched
This time:
June 2020 - Apple announced switch to AS
Aug 2020 - Maybe last Intel iMac launched
??? ???? - First AS iMac launch
People can say that it might be a while, but who thought that Apple was going to release an Intel iMac just a few months after the last G5 iMac was launched.
Of course, this is a totally unique situation and you cannot always go by historical data to make predictions like this.
Basically, no one on the MR forum knows for sure. No one has inside info. We are all guessing. The next iMac might come out next month or 3 years from now.
The best advice I can give is that if you need an iMac now, or if you have compatibility concerns about the AS Macs, I would just get a Mac now. If you can wait and you have no concerns about compatibility, just wait.
Hi! Why do you start a new thread about the same subject? You already have a thread from Aug 29th about your specualtions about shipping times and new iMacs. You also start this post with "Again" meaning you already know you have discussed this subject. Yet again you start a new thread about it. If you're not familiar with the forum rules you shouldn't do this. Here is your thread where you should continue your discussion: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-imac-coming-soon.2251921/
EDIT: The new thread is now merged with the old one.
EDIT: The new thread is now merged with the old one.
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No.. This is a new topic about the 27” is now pushed out as far as the 21.5 when two weeks ago You could get the new 27” basically the same week. Made me wonder if they have plans to update both at the same time with AS.
Is server space an issue on this forum? Two “similar topics” which they were addressing two separate questions. You mods bored? ?
IDK, the two threads do seem like very similar topics (speculating AS iMacs using ship times), just certain elements within the topic has changes (ship times).
I don't know if I would have merged the two threads, but I think it is completely justified to do so.
I guess my main point was.. being that the 27” was just updated and now the ship times are way out.. Would Apple do another 27” update so soon With a new 21.5 or whatever it will be after the last using the new AS. ??♂️
Isn’t that the point of a forum? To have a discussion? Ask questions. Hear other’s opinions.
Didn’t realize I had to spell everything out chapter and verse so they didn’t seem so similar. ?
I would be surprised if we got both 24 and 27 in, but I just checked and I got the same ship dates as you did. None of the models are available for pickup in my area (even at their flagship Seattle store which is massive).
Its hard to say if this is just simply from low demand, or limited supply due to covid and delayed manufacturing. There have been no rumors at all about a 27” replacement this year. Only rumors of a possible 24” but nothing recent.
Well, it's not surprising you think it's a different topic since you started a new thread but you seem to miss the bigger picture in your own threads. As I wrote both threads were about shipping dates and delivery delays of iMacs and you speculating and wondering about it being a sign of new iMacs. You don't need to start a new thread just for 27" when your first thread is called "New iMac coming soon". That title covers both models. You also wrote about both 21.5" and 27" in your new thread and asked if both would be updated. So no, your new thread wasn't only about the 27". I'm not a moderator btw but it seems that they agree with me. New threads should be started if they are about a completely different subject. Otherwise everyone with similar question would be free to spam the forum. It's nothing personal, only common forum sense.
Yeah, but the mods try to keep it organized, combining multiple threads on the same topic.
Usually it is different threads by different members, but in this case it was pretty much the same topic, but the same member, in a relatively short period of time. That is why I think it was completely justified to merge the two threads.
Just think about this this way, what would have been the difference if you would have posted your new ideas in the first thread on the topic? The discussion would continue.
If there were different topics, then you wouldn't have to worry about it, but in this case, the topics are identical just with a change in one element (ship times).
If you had a different idea on how you hoped the new thread would play out, you should have mentioned it in the first post of the thread. Otherwise it just looks like you are posting the same topic all over again.
I think that people tend to be overly critical when people post a new thread on an existing topic. I wonder if these same people are the same people that complain when people resurrect an old thread.
I personally don't care for either as long as it is justified to create a new thread or resurrect an old thread, but in this case, you made the first thread, and you made the second thread on the same topic, all in a short period of time.
If you base the switch to AS off of how the switch to Intel went down, shipping times should matter.
The iMac G5 continued to sell as new for at least a month or two after the Intel Mac came out.
Of course, things could be different this time.
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There are also other similar threads such as this one you can ask the same question without needing a new thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/will-a-redesigned-imac-arrive-in-2020.2184301/
As for your question the best thing is to wait and see. NO ONE, not even famous leakers like Prosser can tell what Apple is planning, until maybe just a few days before a launch, even less weeks and months before. As I wrote before answering your first speculation ship dates are not a good sign to use mostly. People speculated for 2-3 months about new iMacs until they launched in Aug. Apple has just introduced A14 but iPad Air won't be available until Oct. iPhone was delayed until Oct and will still use A14. It will take some months before A14X, A14Z and a Mac SoC come. It took six months after A12 to launch A12Z. My guess is that AS iMacs will come earliest in spring 2021 or next summer.
As for your question the best thing is to wait and see. NO ONE, not even famous leakers like Prosser can tell what Apple is planning, until maybe just a few days before a launch, even less weeks and months before. As I wrote before answering your first speculation ship dates are not a good sign to use mostly. People speculated for 2-3 months about new iMacs until they launched in Aug. Apple has just introduced A14 but iPad Air won't be available until Oct. iPhone was delayed until Oct and will still use A14. It will take some months before A14X, A14Z and a Mac SoC come. It took six months after A12 to launch A12Z. My guess is that AS iMacs will come earliest in spring 2021 or next summer.
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Why would apple state “first Apple Silicon Mac by the end of the year” if they weren’t ready for it? Tim Cook is the master of supply chain and manufacturing. They’ve been planning this transition for years. They bought out all of TSMC’s 5nm manufacturing and TSMC has been producing tens of millions of 5nm chips per month since mid-2020.
iPad Air isn’t coming out until October for many reasons, but one of them is because it comes with the A14 chip - and they don’t want tear downs to reveal additional features and specs that have not been announced yet (I suspect they held off on a few features for the iPhone event). Apple was forced to delay the iPhone event which resulted in them announcing the new A14 with the iPad. I don’t think this was their plan, but a necessary part of launching these products. Tablets are popular right now with school and remote work, and the watch is all about health which is a big selling point during the time of covid. So those products needed to be announced ASAP. There was no reason to wait unti October to announce everything.
That has to do with the upcoming Chinese national holiday from Oct 1- Oct 7.
For a whole week the whole country is on vacation. It’s a big holiday over there.
That makes complete sense!
I just didn’t know if Apple would undermine their newly released 27” with an AS replacement. My first Mac was a Intel Imac so I wasn’t around for Switch from the G series chips to Intel. Not that they would follow the same schedule ??♂️
I think AS is not ready for prime time yet, and I believe we won’t see the AS Macs until the 2021.
Generally speaking, Apple does make its announced dates. The charging pad (Air Pad?) being an obvious example. When they say "first AS Mac before the end of the year" they mean exactly that. They probably left it open due to the uncertainty surrounding Covid-19, but for them to make an announcement like that, the AS SoCs and the actual product are ready. It is a question of how much built product they can put into the pipeline before they feel it can be announced, considering that they need to do the same with the various iPhone 12s as well.
Who said they aren't ready for it? I said iMac next year, not Mac. I expect them to deliver the first AS Mac as promised this year. If they manage to deliver an AS iMac too this year it's even better, but I don't have high hopes for that.
All those millions of chips you're talking about are mostly for iPhones and iPads. TSMC is planning to deliver 80 million A14 chips to Apple this year. Apple sells over 210 million iPhones and over 40 million iPads a year worldwide. Of course not all of them are going to need A14 but still they're going to need every chip they can get. Whatever is left is going to end up in AS laptops (with proper modifications of course).
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Sorry I misread your comment then my apologies. I thought you were saying AS macs weren’t coming until spring. I’ve seen a lot of people on these forums claim that we’re not getting an AS this year even though Apple said we would. Some argued that Apple doesn’t have enough chips ready for all of their A14-based products (not A14 specifically but chips based on that design including the A14 itself) which is why I made comments about Apple buying all the 5nm process trying to show that Apple has been planning for this all year (and the last several years).
It says that not even custom GPUs are going to be produced. It can only mean that Apple is going to upgrade iMac with Radeon 6000 or introduce the first AS iMac soon. Feel bad for those who have bought 5700 XT seeing it being replaced so soon.
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