In another thread someone pointed out that the current iMac still listed as new? Does this make a fall update far less likely?
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ah no. Apple does not sell you old computers unless they are marked as refurbished. There is nothing from apple that indicates any model is outdated. Meaning in the apple universe everything is the bestest at time of sale.
Basically, everything they sell is the latest until the new line comes.
A new imac update makes sense at end of year because of
1) new generational jump available from AMD gpus
2) Dramatic drop in price of SSD
3) USB 3.1 being pushed as a standard.
4) Kaby lake adaptation?
Basically, everything they sell is the latest until the new line comes.
A new imac update makes sense at end of year because of
1) new generational jump available from AMD gpus
2) Dramatic drop in price of SSD
3) USB 3.1 being pushed as a standard.
4) Kaby lake adaptation?
New?
It is to hoodwink the unknowing masses.
Seriously Apple should be upfront and say clearly how antiquated their Mac line up is.
Apple want to get as much profit from old hardware.
It is to hoodwink the unknowing masses.
Seriously Apple should be upfront and say clearly how antiquated their Mac line up is.
Apple want to get as much profit from old hardware.
Depends on what's in the pipeline. A Fall update can have TB3, USB3.1 and (maybe) AMD Polaris GPUs. If Apple wants Kaby Lake, they'll need to wait till Winter 2017 as that is when Intel will start shipping that CPU family.
I had a MacBook Pro from 2008 until 2011 - was my only computer. had an external monitor. Worked great. Had a 2011 iMac base model until last month, when i bought the newest 15" MBP. I have a 27" monitor hooked to this machine.
This setup i like much better than my iMac. I am a photographer, and haven't had any issues with calibration. I use HDMI to my display, so i can't comment on the TB overheating. it is all personal preference. Editing photos is like painting i think. I am sometimes more inspired to edit offsite, and somedays i am inspired to edit at home.
"DRAMATIC drop of the price of SSD" - where do these assumptions come from? and how much would the drop be and why?? Very curious because I don't know if I should buy one ASAP or not...I really would benefit most to the Skylake i7 6700K, everything else I don't care bout that much such as GPU,RAM, Thunderbolt and USB-C for example...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3040...-plummet-again-close-in-on-hdds.html#comments
I see a 233 dollar muschkin 1tb from amazon nowadays. Still pricey in comparison of course.
I see a 233 dollar muschkin 1tb from amazon nowadays. Still pricey in comparison of course.
Honestly, I think GPUs are probably more doable than you suspect. AMD has been harping Back to School season for the mobile Polaris parts, so even if they are running late, OEMs are working with engineering samples by this point, waiting for the manufacturing ramp up to happen. nVidia has already released their mobile Pascal parts, with hardware available today. I do wonder if we might see Apple jump ship to nVidia for a refresh cycle or two again here, since the Pascal mobile parts are rather interesting takes on mobile GPUs that seem like they could be desirable for what Apple tends to favor to support the OS and Pro Apps.
That said, if Apple had to wait until Dec/Jan to launch an iMac with Kaby Lake, TB3 and new GPUs all at once, they may very well do it.
I don't know if Kaby lake will be released in January, so I'm not sure of a Dec/Jan time frame is doable.
Also consider what's been happening to Mac sales.
The competition has fully embraced Skylake, we see Dell, Asus, and others using Intel's latest generation CPU, and yet we have Apple pushing Broadwell based machines on the 21" iMac, Haswell based laptops. People are noticing the lack of updates and are not buying Macs like they used too.
I hope Apple doesn't try to get by one more buying season on the same old technology that was around 2 or 3 years ago at the same premium price.
Not completely.
We see Dell, HP and ASUS all have higher shipments, where as Apple's is dropping
Apple's PC Sales Fall Behind ASUS as Buyers Await Next-Generation MacBook Pro and Other New Models
... and this it what makes me worry even for new releases.
They update their lineup and it will again sit there for 3 years?
Let's just assume there some general driver and power profile issue with AMD GPU's.
Once you bought these problems, you would have to live with them for a long time.
This is why I seriously consider switching, because with a PC with windows I could at least change the GPU.
Apple's lack of a roadmap is what is holding me back even with updated models.
Agreed, we see a trend that seems to be make some updates, and let the line sit there with just CPU upgrades. We now see Apple's competitors doing things that the old Apple used to do, and that is paying dividends, see my earlier post where Asus, HP and Dell have increasing sales.
I'm happy with my 2015 5k iMac, I think its an excellent machine. I'm in the market for a mobile computer and tbe, I'm having a hard time considering Apple. Now my needs are such that I'll need it before the end of September so that pretty much means I have to buy current gen Apple (if I were to stick with them).
People are talking about how desktop sales are declining but then again there are so many loyal iMac professionals out there and businesses that run desktops and need the superior OS X to Windows.
I personally since I bought an iMac 5 years ago I can never go back to Windows even if the iMac I bought was faulty and the right part of the screen got grey smudges in the inside and have to live with that disappointment to this day. And in the foreseeable future I plan to open a graphics business so I'm gonna stick with Mac but I need a powerful machine, not just a desktop with laptop parts for Internet browsing and email.
Apple can't ignore the core users and the pros who this company was built for. It's a disgrace that watch bands and Internet browsing iPads get the spotlight these days. Just because a product sells more than an other that doesn't mean that it is right to lower the quality on its specs. Either discontinue it completely and be honest about it or keep selling to the pros as you did in the past.
For Christ's sake it's not like iMacs are sold for cheap, they are expensive desktops. The profit is still there for Apple.
I personally since I bought an iMac 5 years ago I can never go back to Windows even if the iMac I bought was faulty and the right part of the screen got grey smudges in the inside and have to live with that disappointment to this day. And in the foreseeable future I plan to open a graphics business so I'm gonna stick with Mac but I need a powerful machine, not just a desktop with laptop parts for Internet browsing and email.
Apple can't ignore the core users and the pros who this company was built for. It's a disgrace that watch bands and Internet browsing iPads get the spotlight these days. Just because a product sells more than an other that doesn't mean that it is right to lower the quality on its specs. Either discontinue it completely and be honest about it or keep selling to the pros as you did in the past.
For Christ's sake it's not like iMacs are sold for cheap, they are expensive desktops. The profit is still there for Apple.
Wow that sucks to hear...I can't imagine the shock and frustration. It's enough having to deal with the nightmare that is grey spots in iMac screens (yeah thanks apple for not acknowledging the problem and replace the faulty machines even if the warranty expired or no Apple care) but to break it while trying to fix it just sucks.
Did you buy a new machine?
I built a Hackintosh... We have three "real" Macs at home and I love them, but I couldn't justify spending €2900+ on the config I wanted. My Hackintosh cost me €1300 and kicks ass of every model available in the stores now except possibly Mac Pro.
I found an article on the Internet about how to clean the spots. So I did everything, opened the thing, cut the tape, etc. Opened the screen, cleaned everything, put it back together. Switched it on and saw something like modern digital art – colour stripes all over the screen. I opened it again, checked if I could see anything that wasn't connected (I couldn't), put it back together, still modern art. Then I went back to the thread and on page three found out that you're not supposed to open it COMPLETELY but only a bit so you can reach into it and clean it... Took it to repair and found out it would cost €350 to replace everything I broke. Sold it for parts for €150.
And that's how I learned to read past page one of forum threads.
I found an article on the Internet about how to clean the spots. So I did everything, opened the thing, cut the tape, etc. Opened the screen, cleaned everything, put it back together. Switched it on and saw something like modern digital art – colour stripes all over the screen. I opened it again, checked if I could see anything that wasn't connected (I couldn't), put it back together, still modern art. Then I went back to the thread and on page three found out that you're not supposed to open it COMPLETELY but only a bit so you can reach into it and clean it... Took it to repair and found out it would cost €350 to replace everything I broke. Sold it for parts for €150.
And that's how I learned to read past page one of forum threads.
I would bet on:
- 4K across the line and price adjustment on 21"
- Skylake on all
- New AMD GPU's
- Other minor improvements
....and probably just a silent update. (They wouldn't even have to add the new tag to the iMac!)
I wasn't expecting an updated iMac line today but the Apple Store app has "new" beside the iMacs. Have they been spec bumped?
There have been two other threads started on this in the last 6 months. Apple has become incredibly lazy or reluctant with removing the "New" identifier.
Has anyone else noticed that Apple finally removed the "New" designation from the Apple Store that was up for almost a year? I hope this is a sign that there are indeed truly "New" iMac computers coming in October...
