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New iPad most bendable apple product yet

Greenmeenie said:
Actually that would have been much more interesting. I’m not going to test mine, but it would definitely not bend as easily as it did with the shattered screen. And that was my point. I don’t think normal usage could ever bend the iPad Pro so easily. And to completely shatter a screen takes effort too. I just don’t want to crack my screen at all. So I intend to be extra careful with my very expensive iPad Pro for that reason alone.
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I don't know about that. I would caution against putting a 3rd gen 12.9 Pro in a backpack with hardcover textbooks that are smaller than the iPad. Will doing that be enough to damage the screen? Most likely not. But I think there's a very good probability of the iPad itself developing a curve.
 
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killhippie said:
The bigger a piece of glass at the same thickness the easier it is to break. Thats why really big windows are not paper thin. You would need to increase the thickness to keep the same structural integrity at some point. That's why OLED TV's bend easily if they are mishandled. Thin metal and with very thin glass is a fragile design but TV's don't get handled every day. Google bent LG OLEDS to see what I mean. Basically the new iPad is following that same design ethos, but for a tablet you need more rigidity, and if the glass seems to deform with the pencil that shows a weakness straight away. I was really wanting one of these but now I'm tempted to wait till next year for a few tweaks in the strength department.
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I don't have to google anything to know what kind of effect glass has on a casing, I'm more than aware of its properties.

If you take a bare metal iPad case, no glass on it, from any generation, it is going to be relatively easy to bend.
If you add a piece of glass to that equation, it becomes harder to bend for a few reasons, but let's just keep it simple.

The main two we're concerning ourselves with here, is that it's now a complete box, with no missing surfaces and the rigidity of the glass. This combination shores up the casing, making it inherently less flexible and also distributes any forces applied to it across more surface. The case protects the glass and the glass strengthens the case, its symbiotic.

If that glass get broken, the structural integrity disappears completely. hence why we see such a difference between the first video posted and the second. The first video's bending is being done on an already structurally compromised iPad, in the second video it's not.

Using your logic you should love the new 12.9" iPad Pro, it's smaller than the previous generation. So, using your logic, smaller glass = less easy to break. The size and indeed the thickness of glass is not the only measure of its strength or rigidity. Try a piece of iPad sized glass from the 1970's against a piece from today's iPad, you'll see what I mean.

Is it possible to bend an iPad, even without breaking the glass? Yep, definitely, but only a small amount, there's enough give in the glass to allow for that. Is it possible to bend and break an iPad, sure, with enough force. Is it likely, well I suppose that depends on how haphazardly you treat your devices.
 
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I had to laugh when I saw this video. Yeah sure it bends easily when the glass is shot to ****.

That said it can’t be denied this years pros are not built as robustly as the other gens. I wish they were more like this years iPhones. They should be given the money.
 
killhippie said:
sitting down would easily equal a force that would bend your iPad badly I imagine.
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However, it's just in your imagination at this point. This video wasn't a test of accidentally sitting on an undamaged iPad.

I can imagine a lot of items in my home that might bend if I sat on them. That doesn't indicate a problem with the item; it just means I shouldn't sit on it.
 
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killhippie said:
Not when the screen is that big and that thin, you lose structural integrity.
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Putting your ipad down on the sofa, and then forgetting its there momentarily as you sit back down happens sometimes and accidentally sitting down would easily equal a force that would bend your iPad badly I imagine. Accidents happen, once again the apologists for bad structural design amaze me. These are tools designed to be used and will get dropped sat on and bent in a backpack on a crowded train etc, real life causes real accidents and this is a bad design because it does not need to be so thin, you can guarantee Apple will change the design a bit next year to make it more robust, probably like the iPhone 6-6S with points of weakness reinforced and a change in materials used possibly. Also he was not using that much force to bend the short sides at the top and bottom and they should be stronger than the longer sides.
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What a load of crap. Ok, put your thin casing aluminum ultrabook on the couch and sit on it. I BET something breaks. Big shocker you shouldn't sit on expensive electronics and if you do that's on you to repair it.

No company needs to make their product "sit proof" from a 100-300 pound person; that's ridiculous. Physics is physics.

The iPhone 6 was completely different as it was bending with an intact display. This had 1 of the largest surfaces of the device compromised already. HUGE difference in physics. It's like comparing jumping on the roof of your car and then when all the glass removed for some reason. Of course it crushes more (the pillars) without the glass supporting the force some.
 
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GBNova said:
That said it can’t be denied this years pros are not built as robustly as the other gens. I wish they were more like this years iPhones. They should be given the money.
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Really? Based on what? My 12.9” feels just as solid as my previous one did. I’ve had it for several days now and not once did I think it was flimsy in any way.
 
killhippie said:
The bigger a piece of glass at the same thickness the easier it is to break. Thats why really big windows are not paper thin. You would need to increase the thickness to keep the same structural integrity at some point. Also thats why OLED TV's bend easily if they are mishandled. Thin metal and with very thin glass is a fragile design but TV's don't get handled every day, iPads do. Google bent LG OLEDS to see what I mean. Basically the new iPad is following that same design ethos, but for a tablet you need more rigidity, and if the glass seems to deform with the pencil that shows a weakness straight away. I was really wanting one of these but now I'm tempted to wait till next year for a few tweaks in the strength department.
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What if you wait...and Apple just makes the next iPad Pro even THINNER! Heh heh heh
 
I love some of the threads on here where you get people stating stuff as fact when it seems to either be a figment of their imagination or something their teenage friend told them as being totally the truth.

I.e. New iPads not being robust. Warping issues with old iPads. These videos which show just how easy it is to bend an iPad with nothing but the power of your mind.

Argh! I’m just feeding the troll now by replying!
 
I got mine on Wednesday, I’ve used it for drawing for about five hours on a flat surface and it already has visible bends on the edges from the camera corner. I just posted to see if anyone else is noticed similar. I understand no one is going to try and bend their own device like this but I can also understand stress testing things to destruction to see how easily they fail. Isn’t that the way all products are tested?

I for one don’t want to have spent £1300 on a device for it to not be able to take the force of a hand using an Apple Pencil on it and imagine everyone here expects Apple to make devices that are at least fit for purpose and don’t start to subtly bend after three days of normal use, least it be you that throws £1300 on a device that crumpled under minimum pressure, I think it’s ressonable to hold apple to the high production standards it promotes for its devices and objectively look at anything that might suggestvotherwise as it will encouraging them to make products that are durable and be fit for purpose.
 
The 10.5" ipad pro si still the king and out there were no complaints or " bendgate" etc
But that doesnt mean Apple should follow this craziness with more thin more thin
6.1mm was already thin enough...now we have 5.9", whats next? 5.5mm? Stop Apple, is thin and beautiful enough
 
The structural integrity is compromised once the display is shattered. That being said, for $1000 I hope Apple is working on some freaking titanium alloys for future devices. Apple over time has addressed one sustainability issue after another by using less toxic parts, another by using renewable energy, another with their recycling robot, and yet another by extending newer versions of iOS to run better on older devices. The last step is to have devices that are virtually indesctructible during normal use to extend their lifespan. That being said, I feel like having this in my folio without a broken display will keep it more than rigid enough in my bag, so I don’t worry about it bending there. I worry more about dropping it in the folio with the display exposed since it has no side/lip protection bumpers. Not sure what other case would be better and work with Apple Pencil charging.
 
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macduke said:
The structural integrity is compromised once the display is shattered. That being said, for $1000 I hope Apple is working on some freaking titanium alloys for future devices. Apple over time has addressed one sustainability issue after another by using less toxic parts, another by using renewable energy, another with their recycling robot, and yet another by extending newer versions of iOS to run better on older devices. The last step is to have devices that are virtually indesctructible during normal use to extend their lifespan. That being said, I feel like having this in my folio without a broken display will keep it more than rigid enough in my bag, so I don’t worry about it bending there. I worry more about dropping it in the folio with the display exposed since it has no side/lip protection bumpers. Not sure what other case would be better and work with Apple Pencil charging.
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it certainly sounds the folio is a necessity.
 
If you have a cellular version, try looking down the short edges where the cellular bands intersect with the front of the screen. Not straight, and the cellular plastic is at the point where case bends.

Returned the first, second has the same traits.
 
CrazyForCashews said:
Maybe because it is a problem with the product?

Most thinnest and most bendable Apple product go perfectly together.
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Incorrect, look at the 10.5" last year ipad....and still after more than an year there were no complaints
So lets see with time...i bet this one will be even better than the last year
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Ries said:
Properly not a problem for most, but beware having it in a backpack. Fast forward to the 8min mark.

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seems people dont know but post this to alarm people for nothing
This is still the
most bendable apple product yet
[doublepost=1541880732][/doublepost]my opinion is to remove this thread and make it when actually users are having problems with bend ipads...like they did with iphone 6 plus.. with photos and the whole thing. And this way, if it will be a big issue Apple next gen will adopt 7000series AL and make it a little bit stronger
 
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Pretty weak. They push the limits for thinness and lightness and the structural integrity is compromised.

 
jaseone said:
This just in: metal bends, in fact anything will bend if you try hard enough. These videos and threads are so stupid.
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Except when the original bendgate with the iPhone 6. The reactions were the same as yours. But the truth came out, internal Apple documents confirmed that they knew it had a higher probability of bending and even made design changes to the 6S to strengthen the weak points.
 
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