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I've owned pretty much every iPad made. I've written articles on the history of tablet computers. I've studied the form factor and done usability studies on them. I founded an entire business off of the iPad when it first launched.

An iPad is an iPad and will always be an iPad.

I knew that going into this $2000 purchase. New 12.9" iPad, with folio and pencil. Anybody who thinks that the iPad is a laptop or desktop replacement or can even compete with them is either delusional or never needed a laptop or desktop in the first place.

Yes, the iPad can do a few specific things well. If it didn't, it would have no reason to exist. Here's what the iPad Pro is good at:
  • Surfing the Web.
  • Reading.
  • Editing photos and videos.
  • Taking notes.
  • Drawing.
  • Not much else (I want to say watching videos but even my MacBook Pro is better at that!)
Is it better at these things compared to my MacBook Pro? Generally, it's better at taking notes, drawing, and reading. That's it. And those three things along with surfing the Web are what I mainly use it for.

Otherwise, I don't bother using the iPad over my MacBook Pro.

Here's what the iPad Pro (tablets in general as well) is bad at:
  • Productivity (limited, simplistic operating system with terrible multi-tasking). It really is a giant iPhone that uses a smartphone operating system. Add this to a relatively small screen with no multi-monitor support.
  • Graphic design: need a point and click device.
  • Word processing: it's not lappable, it has limited font support, and takes too long to use multi-touch to create and edit documents using multi-touch.
  • Spreadsheets and other such creative applications: same deal... multi-touch is awkward, slow, and imprecise.
  • Overall multi-tasking: terrible. iOS plain sucks. Period. Getting things into split view, for instance, is like driving a car with an italian transmission: you have to make love to it.
  • Being a laptop. It's not lappable, and only has 2 degrees of screen freedom. The keyboard also kind of sucks.

Overall Conclusion

This is the best iPad Apple has produced. But it's still just an iPad running a smartphone operating system. No matter how many ugly accessories people glue and hang off of the iPad, it doesn't change what it is, the same way that make up doesn't fundamentally change what a person is underneath it. The iPad has narrowly confined use cases and is not a laptop or desktop replacement. The new iPads, pencils and keyboard cases are all horribly overpriced. I am not happy about this purchase but will likely keep the iPad. Overall, I will likely use this iPad 15% of the time with my laptop being used the rest of the time.

Save your money if this device is not a must.
I must say, one sided review, you forgot (PRO) LTE! Portable! Thin! Just to name a a few lol
 
I mostly agree with the reviewer. iPad (even Pro) is a great toy and media consumption device which is portable, thin, light, has LTE and the greatest stylus ever! The biggest problem I think it's extremely overpriced for these kinds of tasks, especially 2018. Also even in the MacBook Pro you can replace some faulty components. For iPad Pro if it breaks and you're out of warranty the only choice you have is toss your expensive toy. Not mentioning the App Store which is 99% filled with very basic games.

It should cost 50% of its current price for this to be justified.
 
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For me it is a consumable... if i work, i use a laptop - easier, reliable and fast rather than complexity to solve puzzles to get something done (try to copy paste via documents attach by sending it through an another app... damn it didnt work!) - if i lay on the sofa, i use ipad. And im mostly just laying on the sofa, surfing, gaming etc... if i need to carry ipad, i take my air2 and pro (12.9) stays home, it is too large to carry without a laptop bag.
 
For iPad Pro if it breaks and you're out of warranty the only choice you have is toss your expensive toy. Not mentioning the App Store which is 99% filled with very basic games.

It should cost 50% of its current price for this to be justified.

That's not totally true, allow me to explain. I had an issue with my 2017 iPad Pro that was about 15 months our of warranty, initially Apple wanted me to pay a stupid amount of money for out of warranty, so i sent off an email to Tim Cook and Phil Schiller, within a few hours i got an email followed by a call from Apple executive relations, i explained everything that had happened, the next day a box arrived for me to send my iPad off to them, 24 hours after that i received a brand new 2017 iPad Pro, a few hours after setting it up i got an email from Apple Executive relations asking me if i had received the new iPad and if everything was ok. Even tho i was annoyed to begin with i was VERY happy with the end result. The iPad Pro was out of warranty and they still sent me a brand new one, so it's not always the case that "the only choice you have is toss your expensive toy"

As for basic games, yes there are a lot of simple games but there are also games that were once PC and or Mac only, games like Tropico are now available on the iPad Pro.

Also saying it's a toy is again simply not true, while it can be used as a media device it can also be used for photo editing work with apps like Pixelmator Pro, Affinity Photo and so on. It really depends what you do with it, the new 2018 iPad Pro's are even more capable with insane benchmarks. Granted Apple need to add more iPad Pro feature in IOS 13, but that was rumoured to be coming for as far back as last year when Mark Gurman reported that such features were delayed from IOS 12 to focus on reliability.
 
so i sent off an email to Tim Cook and Phil Schiller, within a few hours i got an email followed by a call from Apple executive relations, i explained everything that had happened, the next day a box arrived for me to send my iPad off to them, 24 hours after that i received a brand new 2017 iPad Pro

Apple Store never replaced anything for me that was out of warranty. Really that worked? Are you friends with those guys or a regular customer? Can you give me their email addresses so I could try that way?
 
I've owned pretty much every iPad made. I've written articles on the history of tablet computers. I've studied the form factor and done usability studies on them. I founded an entire business off of the iPad when it first launched.

An iPad is an iPad and will always be an iPad.

I knew that going into this $2000 purchase. New 12.9" iPad, with folio and pencil. Anybody who thinks that the iPad is a laptop or desktop replacement or can even compete with them is either delusional or never needed a laptop or desktop in the first place.

Yes, the iPad can do a few specific things well. If it didn't, it would have no reason to exist. Here's what the iPad Pro is good at:
  • Surfing the Web.
  • Reading.
  • Editing photos and videos.
  • Taking notes.
  • Drawing.
  • Not much else (I want to say watching videos but even my MacBook Pro is better at that!)
Is it better at these things compared to my MacBook Pro? Generally, it's better at taking notes, drawing, and reading. That's it. And those three things along with surfing the Web are what I mainly use it for.

Otherwise, I don't bother using the iPad over my MacBook Pro.

Here's what the iPad Pro (tablets in general as well) is bad at:
  • Productivity (limited, simplistic operating system with terrible multi-tasking). It really is a giant iPhone that uses a smartphone operating system. Add this to a relatively small screen with no multi-monitor support.
  • Graphic design: need a point and click device.
  • Word processing: it's not lappable, it has limited font support, and takes too long to use multi-touch to create and edit documents using multi-touch.
  • Spreadsheets and other such creative applications: same deal... multi-touch is awkward, slow, and imprecise.
  • Overall multi-tasking: terrible. iOS plain sucks. Period. Getting things into split view, for instance, is like driving a car with an italian transmission: you have to make love to it.
  • Being a laptop. It's not lappable, and only has 2 degrees of screen freedom. The keyboard also kind of sucks.

Overall Conclusion

This is the best iPad Apple has produced. But it's still just an iPad running a smartphone operating system. No matter how many ugly accessories people glue and hang off of the iPad, it doesn't change what it is, the same way that make up doesn't fundamentally change what a person is underneath it. The iPad has narrowly confined use cases and is not a laptop or desktop replacement. The new iPads, pencils and keyboard cases are all horribly overpriced. I am not happy about this purchase but will likely keep the iPad. Overall, I will likely use this iPad 15% of the time with my laptop being used the rest of the time.

Save your money if this device is not a must.
You make good point though I love watching movies on mine. Why not return it? 2k is a lot of money for 15% use.
 
Apple Store never replaced anything for me that was out of warranty. Really that worked? Are you friends with those guys or a regular customer? Can you give me their email addresses so I could try that way?

Yes it worked, I’m not friends with nor do I have any affiliation with Tim Cook or Phil Schiller, they do often read their emails and will send them to other people in order to deal with such matters. It probably doesn’t work every time (that was the first and only time I have done it).

You can contact Tim Cook at tcook@apple.com and Phil Schillers email address is schiller@apple.com

If you do send them an email keep it short and to the point, but most of all be polite and respectful. That’s what I did anyway.
 
No world exists where watching videos on a MacBook would be an overall better experience than on a 12.9” iPad.

Edit: this was a little harsh towards the OP, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. This is, of course, my opinion.
 
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No world exists where watching videos on a MacBook would be an overall better experience than on a 12.9” iPad.

It’s his/her opinion.

Yes it worked, I’m not friends with nor do I have any affiliation with Tim Cook or Phil Schiller, they do often read their emails and will send them to other people in order to deal with such matters. It probably doesn’t work every time (that was the first and only time I have done it).

You can contact Tim Cook at tcook@apple.com and Phil Schillers email address is schiller@apple.com

If you do send them an email keep it short and to the point, but most of all be polite and respectful. That’s what I did anyway.
So to get work done we gotta contact these rich billionaires f that
 
So to get work done we gotta contact these rich billionaires f that

Nobody says you have to, and it wasn’t to get work done. My iPad Pro was out of warranty and it had an issue, Apple Care wanted to charge me, I didn’t think it was right with it being only a few months out of warranty. I emailed Tim and Phil and got a response, I ended up with a brand new 2017 iPad Pro, result.
 
No world exists where watching videos on a MacBook would be an overall better experience than on a 12.9” iPad.

Edit: this was a little harsh towards the OP, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. This is, of course, my opinion.

It depends on what you mean by good experience :). For some it is the image quality and maybe iPad Pro 12.9 has better image quality (don't own one so I can't say).

For me however is the screen size (here my laptop wins as it's 15.6 inch) and the lapability (I find the 15.6 inch laptop far more stable on my lap than iPad). Quite often I have issues with subtitles on the iPad where I don't have them on the laptop. Also quite often I pause the video and check something and then go back to the video. Going back (without performance issues) is smoother on laptop compared to iPad. And lastly I like to hook up external monitor to the laptop to watch the movie while still doing something else on the laptop screen. I can't do that with the iPad. All those reasons would make for me the experience on laptop better compared to the iPad.
 
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Makes sense, your reasoning.

I watched a movie before reading your post on my 12.9 and remember thinking wow the speakers are excellent. I was sitting in front of close of course.
 
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Makes sense, your reasoning.

I watched a movie before reading your post on my 12.9 and remember thinking wow the speakers are excellent. I was sitting in front of close of course.

Yeah those 4 speakers do sound good! So true but honestly if I hook up external monitor for the movie, I also hook up external speakers.

I do agree with you though that the 4 speakers of the pro are great for media consumption.
 
Yes it worked, I’m not friends with nor do I have any affiliation with Tim Cook or Phil Schiller, they do often read their emails and will send them to other people in order to deal with such matters. It probably doesn’t work every time (that was the first and only time I have done it).

You can contact Tim Cook at tcook@apple.com and Phil Schillers email address is schiller@apple.com

If you do send them an email keep it short and to the point, but most of all be polite and respectful. That’s what I did anyway.

So as a matter of fact I was stupid enough to send the email to those guys (also some other executives) because the legend lives on! Well....never received any kind of an answer lol. I guess it's time for me to grow a nice long beard and stop believing in fairytales.
 
So as a matter of fact I was stupid enough to send the email to those guys (also some other executives) because the legend lives on! Well....never received any kind of an answer lol. I guess it's time for me to grow a nice long beard and stop believing in fairytales.

Maybe they don’t reply to everyone, I don’t know. I can only say my experience and what happened. At least you tried.
 
I largely agree with OP, the hardware is now absolutely there for iPads to become replacement devices for laptops, but I think the version of iOS they run needs a drastic overhaul to introduce a lot of missing functionality (or make the way you do it on iPad much more intuitive and less awkward). Things like a more powerful and deeply integrated files app, support for multiple instances of apps (preferably in floating windows so you can have 3+ open, rather than split view that limits you to two) - that sort of thing. It's the clear next step and I'm interested to see what iOS 13 brings but not honestly all that hopeful it will be as dramatic a change as it should be.
 
Maybe they don’t reply to everyone, I don’t know. I can only say my experience and what happened. At least you tried.

Haha. I have a lot of doubts about this story, also never saw any proofs that they really answer. Only some really questionable screenshots.

Also I wonder how many shills are there on these forums. My bet is at least 50%.
 
Haha. I have a lot of doubts about this story, also never saw any proofs that they really answer. Only some really questionable screenshots.

Also I wonder how many shills are there on these forums. My bet is at least 50%.

You can say what you want, I have the emails and voice mail to prove it. Just because they didn’t respond to you doesn’t mean they don’t.
 
Can you post the voicemail?

As it contains personal information and I didn’t get permission from the Apple executive liaison guy no, you can think what you like. I have made plenty of posts about it all at the time it was happening, check out those threads if you really want to.
 
From my personal experience writing to Tim Cook and Phil Schiller maybe a hit or miss, all they do is pass on the case to their respective juniors to handle it. There is no way you are going to get a reply from Tim Cook personally !! Been there Done that !!
 
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From my personal experience writing to Tim Cook and Phil Schillet maybe a hit or miss, all they do is pass on the case to their respective juniors to handle it. There is no way you are going to get a reply from Tim Cook personally !! Been there Done that !!

I didn’t get a reply from Tim or Phil Schiller, the person who contacted me was called Shane Barton from Executive Relations. I have explained it a number of different times, in a couple of threads.
 
Streaming videos is main thing my iPad can do better than my 2015 MacBook. It is because the MacBook gets hot and turns on its fans to run youtube even if its the only thing running. Are newer MacBooks able to play a video without getting hot?
 
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