As someone who play games on it on the go often, I cant say that is a seldom use use.
That said, maybe it is time to give wireless audio a fair shake but how I can do so without sacrificing my wired headphones that I like so much?
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iPad Pro New iPad Pro : no headphone jack, big issue!
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As someone who play games on it on the go often, I cant say that is a seldom use use.
That said, maybe it is time to give wireless audio a fair shake but how I can do so without sacrificing my wired headphones that I like so much?
That's fair, it's definitely a use case - I just don't know if it's like a daily thing that people are doing. Yea it's definitely not the same as wired, but I have been happy with my airpods.
I haven't used the headphone jack on my iPad in years. I use AirPods or the good speakers built into it. Not going to miss it. But if I'm giong to spend $799 minimum on a new tablet, I'm not going to suddenly hit the brakes because I have to spend an additional $9 on an adapter that I can slip into a tiny pocket in my bag. I think it's justified, especially on the 12.9", because they shrank it so much while keeping the display the same size. In the video they mentioned shrinking the speakers but making them louder. I think between that, the headphone jack area, and what might be a smaller logic board due to a smaller chip process, they squeezed in as much battery as possible to keep 10 hours of life with the same display size.
I normally use wireless headphones/AirPods but I honestly don’t mind using a dongle on the rare occasions that I need one. I ordered Apples USB-C to 3.5 adapter. However, being able to charge my iPad while using Apples adapter won’t work. Maybe a 3rd party will make one that has two ports. I have one that works for lighting. I’m sure they’ll make one for usb-c. Or maybe they already have and I just need to search it out. Really not a huge deal.
For me honestly removing headphone jack in general is a huge deal, but I have also accepted the fact that sooner or later we won't have a choice.
Bluetooth headphones do make compromises with the audio quality and that's not something that I enjoy. Sure I can buy quality ones but that's another 200/300 $. I would personally add this price to the d
It's not just that though. I listen to music a lot. I hate travelling and I need music to survive. Bluetooth headphones require charging. I honestly don't want always to think about this. I currently have 3 Bluetooth headsets because of this. I am totally OK in using them for voice calls and I am OK with listening to music occasionally on them too. However when I want to really listen to quality music I go to my wired Senheiser. It's just better.
The other thing is that I always have with me wired headphones when my Bluetooth headset battery gets drained. And that for me is the idea of the headphone jack. I have the option to still listen to music without being dependent on expensive Bluetooth headset being charged.
Unfortunately for me I will have to adjust because sooner or later everyone goes on this trend.
Bluetooth headphones do make compromises with the audio quality and that's not something that I enjoy. Sure I can buy quality ones but that's another 200/300 $. I would personally add this price to the d
It's not just that though. I listen to music a lot. I hate travelling and I need music to survive. Bluetooth headphones require charging. I honestly don't want always to think about this. I currently have 3 Bluetooth headsets because of this. I am totally OK in using them for voice calls and I am OK with listening to music occasionally on them too. However when I want to really listen to quality music I go to my wired Senheiser. It's just better.
The other thing is that I always have with me wired headphones when my Bluetooth headset battery gets drained. And that for me is the idea of the headphone jack. I have the option to still listen to music without being dependent on expensive Bluetooth headset being charged.
Unfortunately for me I will have to adjust because sooner or later everyone goes on this trend.
ahahah! And make Tim Cook happy and my wallet sad
BTW I cannot use that kind of AirPods, they hurt my ears
I still use the older ones with soft silicon and a clever box
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Judging from what I said here I think the answer is no... at least for the Tab S3 (which uses USB-C) a splitter didn't work.
I guess an adapater is out of the question then? If someone must game daily and must use wired headphones daily, either an adapater or not buying the iPad is probably the best solution. I still think we are headed into niche territory.
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Seems to me adaptors are the only way in this scenario, which is why I was asking about any USB sound card or interfaces which can act as adaptors. I will have to test the new USB C adaptors by Apple to see if they introduce any new issues like latency (I highly doubt so seeing that most USB sound cards and audio interfaces do not have such issues with PCs in recent times but then again gotta play safe).
Not buying the iPad is out of the question as the game is available only on mobile devices, and the strongest tablets for gaming are pretty much iPads
Makes sense. Yea I’m not sure about the sound card thing. I guess it’s a bummer to have to use an adapter, but I personally don’t see it as a huge deal to attach it to the end of some headphones. Especially for daily use.
Thanks, actually some of the USB C to 3.5mm adaptors are tiny USB sound cards; they are also known as digital USB C to 3.5mm adaptors (e.g. Google's).
I agree that it is a hassle to use adapters but then again, assuming that there is no other issues other than being another thing to carry or to attach to the headphones, I see it as a small price to pay in return for the benefits of USB C (e.g. being able to use multi port docks powered by USB C instead of having to decide which port to use with Lightning)
As I posted elsewhere.
I realise that Apple is stubborn and will not alter the decision. Having said that, I fail to understand the logic, the lack of commitment to function.
1. Now, if you buy the iPad and are on the road, you need a lighting and an usb-c if you carry iPhone and iPad.
2. iPad battery lasts much longer than any bluetooth headphone, so, I now have to carry a headphone charger and wait while my headphones recharge . . .
3. It is getting time to upgrade the kids' iPads. On the plane, for example, they often share the same device to watch movies together.
4. If I do want to charge the iPad and use wired......?
5. I could continue....
Yes, I know there are dongles. For example, I can purchase the $9 dongle, and attach the headphone splitter. I can buy a separate dongle, I assume that lets me charge and listen. I can buy a dongle . . . . Assuming that no dongles are left anywhere or lost in transit, offices, hotel rooms, etc.
It seems to me that function has become much more complicated.
I realise that Apple is stubborn and will not alter the decision. Having said that, I fail to understand the logic, the lack of commitment to function.
1. Now, if you buy the iPad and are on the road, you need a lighting and an usb-c if you carry iPhone and iPad.
2. iPad battery lasts much longer than any bluetooth headphone, so, I now have to carry a headphone charger and wait while my headphones recharge . . .
3. It is getting time to upgrade the kids' iPads. On the plane, for example, they often share the same device to watch movies together.
4. If I do want to charge the iPad and use wired......?
5. I could continue....
Yes, I know there are dongles. For example, I can purchase the $9 dongle, and attach the headphone splitter. I can buy a separate dongle, I assume that lets me charge and listen. I can buy a dongle . . . . Assuming that no dongles are left anywhere or lost in transit, offices, hotel rooms, etc.
It seems to me that function has become much more complicated.
That's not the reason. What about the Lightning port or USB-C ports?
Samsung have no problems achieving the same or higher water resistance as Apple whilst still including the AUX jack. Apple did it for monetary reasons.
It’s a discussion forum. You have to expect users to discuss changes in new products and this just happened to said product.
If you don’t want to read from people who have an opinion on the matter that might differ from yours by all means feel free to skip the discussion.
If the screen, power, and size of the Pro is less important then the headphone jack, then yes buy something else
Bluetooth headphone adapter? Plenty to chose from. For example:
It is a kind suggestion. However, this just goes back to what I stated: it actually becomes more complicated, more dongles to do what was easy, more risk of losing dongles, more need of charging....
Why not keep both the jack and the wireless.....?
Because wired headphones would never go away and as a result Bluetooth headphones would take much longer to come down to an affordable price point. The pace of innovation would slow. Without constant innovation everything becomes commoditized and Apple wouldn’t be able to sustain fat margins.
Don’t think of dongles as a permanent solution. Think of them as a rickety bridge to the future. Once cross you the bridge (i.e., buy yourself some good Bluetooth headphones) you don’t need the bridge anymore.
That's the worst reasoning to get rid of something that people still want and use. Basically it comes down to Apple's profits, and you want people who otherwise wouldn't buy wireless headphones to subsidize the economy of scale for you.
I have a good pair of wireless noise-cancelling headphones but I still use wired for all kinds of things. I even use my wireless set connected through the 3.5mm jack for all kinds of things that require low-latency. Being able to connect to all kinds of audio equipment universally is only an advantage. So yeah, not only is that bridge still needed but most stuff is still on the "old" side still.
Bluetooth headphone adapter? Plenty to chose from. For example:
Thanks, do you have an Amazon link to it? I may not be buying now but is sure good to see what is that exactly
As somebody who uses only wireless it’s not a big deal for me but with how things are now it’s something people need to get used to