I don't get the dropping of the iPad Pro 10.5 but the iPad Air 3 and iPad 7 keeping support. I've had all 3 and still have the Pro and the Air 3 (and both have had long and useful lives and are still used in some capacity today even though both developed the white spot issue) and I believe my nephew still has the 7. The Pro is superior.
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Umm, you don't need their permission to do that though? Obviously, it's not an easy process, but you can easily find the steps to do so through a simple Google search. The issue, you don't have custom Roms like Android does. And even for Android, custom Roms often support specific devices, usually the most famous flagships only from Google, Samsung, and maybe OnePlus.
Same here. Fabulous Hardware. iPadOS has improved but is overshadowed by the hardware. Will keep using this till Apple does a 15” iPad Pro with a thinner bezel, more memory and storage. Prolly not gonna happen, but we’ll see.
At least manufactures should be obliged to clearly state how long they will provide security updates for a device prior to selling it. And they should provide information which security issues will not be fixed for an old device, if any.
You seriously can’t expect them to support ancient iPads forever. The iPad 6th gen got one more update than it should’ve gotten IMO. It shouldn’t have gotten iOS 17. It’s slow as heck on it. And they shouldn’t allow rooting. It’s a security risk and it doesn’t fix any security issues. iPads get 6-7 years worth of updates. That’s more than enough, and they still get security updates. And just because your iPad is flawless, doesn’t mean it’ll be fast enough to run a new major iOS version.
It's easier to do on Android for sure. But efforts to port Linux to M1 based Macs show, that it is possible to run other OSes on Apple Silicon. It's never going to be as simple to use iOS. But for some uses it might be perfect.
So just the 2019 and 2021 models?
It would sure be nice if they could drop a 2024 model soon-ish. 😩
Woohoo, now 2018 charge cycles and still breathing at 78% battery life. Yes, a beast.
Tom
It would be silly to run Android on an iPhone. If you want Android, get an Android phone. Otherwise, get an iPhone and stick to iOS as that’s what iPhones are designed for.
Another sign that the new calculator app is going to be **awesome!** /s
I'm talking about devices that don't get any more security updates.
Would it not be fun to run Android on those? I would love to repurpose my old Apple gear like that.
There are Linux distros like Asahi already that are proven to work very well with Apple Silicon.
I would not care so much about having the latest OS on a device, if it was not for the app that sooner or later drop support for an old OS. I know that some of you argue that a few years of support are okay, but it is extremely annoying if a device technically has enough resources to run an app, but it is no longer supported because of software limitations.
Think about a text messenger like WhatsApp for example. Sending text messages or some photos, videos or voice messages should basically work forever with a device you buy today. Yet in a few years your current phone will no longer support any WhatsApp versions that are still supported by WhatsApp. So even if your current iPhone 15 Pro Max would technically be good enough for most stuff, some very basic apps will no longer work on it.
I recently had to upgrade my Android version just to use an app that displays the tickets for the 2024 Olympics. There are no paper tickets available. You HAVE to use that app. Shouldn't displaying a ticket with a QR code also work on a phone from 2014 or so? Shouldn't it even work on the first iPhone from 2007, if you still own one?
I understand the need for a more recent phone if an app has some features that demand a lot of RAM and a fast CPU, but basic stuff should also work on an old and basic phone.
The other way around is even worse: Old apps that do not run on a modern device. Backwards compatibility should always exist. Apple once showed an app developer who already was over 70. Imagine she dies one day and nobody updates her app. It would be a shame if it was lost. Apple should find a way to support old 32 bit apps.
Think about a text messenger like WhatsApp for example. Sending text messages or some photos, videos or voice messages should basically work forever with a device you buy today. Yet in a few years your current phone will no longer support any WhatsApp versions that are still supported by WhatsApp. So even if your current iPhone 15 Pro Max would technically be good enough for most stuff, some very basic apps will no longer work on it.
I recently had to upgrade my Android version just to use an app that displays the tickets for the 2024 Olympics. There are no paper tickets available. You HAVE to use that app. Shouldn't displaying a ticket with a QR code also work on a phone from 2014 or so? Shouldn't it even work on the first iPhone from 2007, if you still own one?
I understand the need for a more recent phone if an app has some features that demand a lot of RAM and a fast CPU, but basic stuff should also work on an old and basic phone.
The other way around is even worse: Old apps that do not run on a modern device. Backwards compatibility should always exist. Apple once showed an app developer who already was over 70. Imagine she dies one day and nobody updates her app. It would be a shame if it was lost. Apple should find a way to support old 32 bit apps.
So just keep using them using the last supported OS. That is what I did for my original iPad and original iPad mini.
Honestly I wouldn't move an inch off my iPad Mini 5 if they dropped it from support this year (and didn't release a new model)
I'm not playing Tim's upgrade games
Maybe read the article before trying to mad scramble to be the first to comment something sensational?
As an owner of both a 2017 iPad Pro 10.5” and a 2019 iPad 7, this is unfortunately what I was expecting. (I did not believe the rumours that iPad 7 would be excluded from iPadOS 18.)
In fact, this OS support issue was a major concern of mine when I bought my refurb iPad Pro 10.5” in 2019 when the iPad Air 3 was introduced. However, ultimately I stuck with the Pro over the Air because the Pro was actually cheaper and had more RAM.
However, I didn’t predict the cut off in support would mean the difference in being able to support RCS and not being able to support RCS.
Oh well, I’m buying the M4 soon anyway. My son has the iPad Pro 10.5 now and won’t care about RCS anytime soon.
You might want to take your own advice. @boak is correct.
No, it wouldn’t, because Android is not designed to run on devices like the iPhone. iOS is very heavily optimized for iPhones. Android has to run on thousands of different hardware configurations. And Asahi does not work on M3-based Macs, and doesn’t fully support Macs based on the M2 series yet. Android’s ART implementation and its virtual machine would significantly slow down the iPhone’s performance, and by the time Apple ends software support for a given iPhone, it’d be time to upgrade your phone anyways.
Yes and no. Yes everything on the device will still work but these devices are primarily internet devices. The way Apple designed the ecosystem, no system updates, means no Safari updates means no WebKit updates, means gradually losing access to web content (and eventually things in the App store but I do see most developers support multiple versions back for quite some time).
On the Mac, even if your computer doesn't support the latest OS, you can install Firefox, etc (which has only recently dropped support for pre-Catalina systems and then will support in a security/ESR-only mode for another year). On the flip side even Mojave's last Safari, which is <3 years old, gets stuck on major sites (not to mention no WebP support) and can't be safe for browsing the Internet anyway. Some months back I was even seeing some websites not working with Catalina's last Safari and it is < 2 years old.
As the article states the seventh gen iPad is still supported, which has an A10 chip.
I’m wondering if an m1/2 version is coming out to take advantage of all the new AI stuff.