Other new iPhone every 2 years?

[ian87w]

I replaced the battery on my 6S Plus in that recall program.



This thread is about Apple's business practice, not just battery.

So why are you keep complaining about how Apple didn’t warn users about the 6s weak battery? That is the part I don’t get.

As much as I see Apple being greedy, I don’t agree with your proposition on how Apple is slowing down phones. The fact that Apple still support the 6s with iOS 15 today showed their commitment and knowledge that people are keeping their iPhones for longer period of time. I have an iPhone 7+, and just updated to iOS 15.2. I don’t see it being slow at all.

iOS 15 had quite a lot of bugs, that’s true. Your experience on your iPhone 11 might just be due to it. But there are so many variables that you’re not describing (eg what apps you have installed on the phone? Is the storage almost full? Etc etc).

OT: I find it funny how you keep stating that you are in the tech industry. I don’t see how’s that relevant to anything.

 

[JBGoode]

Nope. I bought an X almost 3 years ago (1.5 years after release)and it still works almost as good as the day I bought it. I say almost because it might be slightly slower than it was and I do get the occasional lag but nothing that makes me feel the need to replace it. I likely will within the next year but it will be more out of want than any real necessity.

 

[ericwn]

Strange logic you have. I don't know how you can conclude it is not a myth with your statement.

I had a brand new BMW 7-series sedan with lowered M-Sport suspension at one time. It drove like a dream, until the warranty expired. Then components started to fail left and right. One of my former co-workers worked in Germany in their auto industry. He was a mid-level management there. He told me that they ensured their components work reliably exactly in the warranty periods. Go figure.

Strange logic on your side when the vast majority of people tell you their experience doesn’t match yours, plus an anecdote from another company in another industry.
Go figure.

 

[vett93]

So why are you keep complaining about how Apple didn’t warn users about the 6s weak battery? That is the part I don’t get.

This is to show a trend that Apple does things to make people upgrade.

As much as I see Apple being greedy, I don’t agree with your proposition on how Apple is slowing down phones. The fact that Apple still support the 6s with iOS 15 today showed their commitment and knowledge that people are keeping their iPhones for longer period of time. I have an iPhone 7+, and just updated to iOS 15.2. I don’t see it being slow at all.

Slowing down phones intentionally was for 6S. They are smart enough not to do it again.

iOS 15 had quite a lot of bugs, that’s true. Your experience on your iPhone 11 might just be due to it. But there are so many variables that you’re not describing (eg what apps you have installed on the phone? Is the storage almost full? Etc etc).

The storage has plenty of room.

OT: I find it funny how you keep stating that you are in the tech industry. I don’t see how’s that relevant to anything.

What I am trying to convey is that it is not uncommon for tech companies to be greedy and sacrifice their customers' interest.

 

[Adarna]

I am not suggesting it is a battery issue with my iPhone 11 Pro Max. As shown in attachment, iOS shows the battery is 99% and a third-party battery test app also confirms the battery is in great shape.

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As I stated in the previous posts in this thread, my iPhone 11 Pro Max suddenly couldn't connect to WiFi APs in my own house and it was the only device (out of 20+) that had issues with WiFi. It became very slow too. This happened after I upgraded it to iOS 15.x. I contacted Apple Support and it got escalated to a Sr. Advisor. He suggested that I did a backup with iTunes, erased the phone completely, and recovered from the backup. That fixed WiFi issue but it remained quite slow.

That was when I posted my query here. Then I upgraded the iOS to 15.2. It seems to improve the performance a bit. What does this tell me? IMO, Apple has not done enough to ensure 2-year old phones operate reliably with their engineering effort. This is similar to the 6S fiasco showing Apple has strong motivation to make us upgrade to newer phones, above the rest.

Why wouldn't Apple develop battery weak warning for 6S? It would have cost them more to develop the software and it would yield less business return. They are doing it now because they got caught.

Why wouldn't Apple ensure my 2-year old iPhone 11 Pro Max work reliably after the iOS 15 upgrade? It would have cost them more engineering resources to ensure that. IMO, Apple did not spend sufficient engineering resource to ensure older phones with various configurations to upgrade reliably. Some older phone owners may just upgrade to the current models which would definitely benefit Apple more.

IMO, this is a near-monopoly business practice. To be fair, Apple is not the only company that does this. In fact, this seems to be the common practice. I work in the tech industry and have seen this many times. But this is a forum about Apple iPhones.....

If you're asking the Internet if you should upgrade because you want to upgrade for the sake of upgrading then you have have my permission to do so no need to explain away. Just do it!

I'm upgrading every 2 years because I need the business expense and because I threatened to switch carriers my telco offered me $44.73/month for 24 months for a $1,099 iPhone 13 Pro Max 128GB with free text/calls/50GB with data rollover.

 

[ian87w]

This is to show a trend that Apple does things to make people upgrade.

Slowing down phones intentionally was for 6S. They are smart enough not to do it again.

So… what’s your issue now?
Sounds like you’re going a convoluted way to justify your own desire to upgrade…

 

[vett93]

So… what’s your issue now?
Sounds like you’re going a convoluted way to justify your own desire to upgrade…

Maybe you are right. I looked at Google Pixel 6 Pro and did not like it at all.

Phones built by a company whose main business is advertisement are even more questionable.

 

[now i see it]

Agreed. Google making a smartphone is like a heroin production company manufacturing hypodermic needles.

 

[joloriquelme]

My iPhones (all brand new):

- iPhone 4 (2010)
- iPhone 5 (2013)
- iPhone 6s Plus (2015)
* Battery replacement in 2018
- iPhone 11 Pro Max (2019)
* Currently at 85% battery condition

I am looking to replace battery when it reaches 80% battery condition.

And my next phone will be an iPhone without notch AND with USB-C port. Not before.

 

[now i see it]

And my next phone will be an iPhone without notch AND with USB-C port. Not before.

Then your next phone will have to run Android

 

[ght56]

Keep the 11 Pro. I regret getting my 13 Pro and wish I just stayed with my 11 Pro.

 

[9646829]

Keep the 11 Pro. I regret getting my 13 Pro and wish I just stayed with my 11 Pro.

How come?

 

[ght56]

How come?

The camera doesn't do well with up close-up shots compared to my 11 Pro (I assume this is either due to the lens and/or the image processing based on what I have read here...either way, it harms some of the utilitarian value of the phone for me with its useless blurry pictures.)

The 5G performance is terrible, and I have to disable 5G for internet to even work in many areas as otherwise it will spend minutes (or longer) loading a single webpage. While that is the provider, the 5G was a major reason I bought the phone, and Apple and carriers have really played 5G up like it is something great. Then, when I disable 5G on the phone I purchased partly because it is a 5G phone, the LTE isn't really any better than my 11 Pro (it seems to be a bit slower.)

The audio from the speakers for voice calls sounds pretty distorted/digitally modified, and it did not on my 11 Pro.

Functionally, the phone is fine. There are no hardware issues according to Apple. My 11 Pro was a refined product that did everything I expected it to do right out of the box without me having to tinker, troubleshoot, or stress--arguably it was the best phone I have ever owned and even better than my old trusty StarTac. The 13 Pro has not been like that at all. It has great battery life and Pro Motion is awesome, but as there are several areas where IMHO it is inferior to my 11 Pro. So this doesn't feel like a complete upgrade. Rather, in some regards, it feels more like a disappointment.

Apple is a company that, as a general rule, releases highly-refined products that are class-leading. I don't feel the 13 Pro has met this high bar that they usually achieve. The 13 Pro kind of feels like my XPS 9510...a great overall design but with quite a few annoyances that can impact productivity (whereas the 11 Pro is like my 16-inch MacBook Pro). I'm hoping software and infrastructure updates might improve some of this in the future, but who knows? Of course, this is just my personal opinion.