In my mind, it's only tampering if you've broken something. I can disassemble even an aluminum iMac (I had to replace the hinge) and reassemble it without anyone being the wiser. What do you mean by tampering?
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New Mac Mini - Can the hard drive be upgraded?
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In my mind, it's only tampering if you've broken something. I can disassemble even an aluminum iMac (I had to replace the hinge) and reassemble it without anyone being the wiser. What do you mean by tampering?
I mean that I can see a clear corrolation between the described defect and what I suspect has been done by the customer himself to the computer. Example, in the old MacBook Pros, if someone broke the left I/O-board while trying to replace the hard drive, then complain of missing sound from the audio jacks, I would call the warranty voided. It's all based from case to case, but sometimes customers try to get away with something they broke while trying to upgrade something they should have let a technician do.
We're in agreement then. I don't think there's a part on any Mac that I couldn't replace myself, but there are plenty of people who aren't quite as proficient.
Wow, I sound large-headed.
Wow, I sound large-headed.
But:
to me, it looks you and Apple basically state the same.
If the user breaks something in the process, that's not covered and warranty is lost. Apple said that and you said that.
But if the user does a clean and perfect job (like many of us are capable of), the warranty isn't voided. It's not like there's any seal, also. (although I realize that a trained eye in many cases could easily tell if thinghs are "factory-like" or not from small details)
I would say that it's easier from that standpoint but still not the easiest upgrade ...the hardest of any Mac, that I'm sure of.
unless you use google with that very phrase, and then click on SHOPPING.
D'oh! and D'oh! What do you know. I guess it wasn't even a year ago when you couldn't find these anywhere. Thanks!
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac-Mini-Mid-2010-Teardown/3094/1
So it's a "be careful for connectors and slide everything out from the back" matter...
So it's a "be careful for connectors and slide everything out from the back" matter...
Teardown of the server version:
http://www.macminicolo.net/macmini2010.html
The FIRST (bottom) hard drive looks EXTREMELY easy to remove this time, without even pulling out the logic board. Good for shoving an SSD in there just out of the box.
But, why is not the same on the non-server version? Do you really HAVE to pull out the whole logic board?
http://www.macminicolo.net/macmini2010.html
The FIRST (bottom) hard drive looks EXTREMELY easy to remove this time, without even pulling out the logic board. Good for shoving an SSD in there just out of the box.
But, why is not the same on the non-server version? Do you really HAVE to pull out the whole logic board?
I put some interesting pics from macminicolo teardown here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10178295/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10178295/
If it's like the previous Mac minis, there's no temperature sensor at all!
I still can't believe there's no guide out there for replacing the hard drive in the non-server mini. Looks like I'll have to wing it!
I still can't believe there's no guide out there for replacing the hard drive in the non-server mini. Looks like I'll have to wing it![/QUOTE]
Thanks! I was starting to worry. A recent post at xlr8yourmac.com suggests that there may be both external AND internal sensors, if I am reading it right.
Thanks! I was starting to worry. A recent post at xlr8yourmac.com suggests that there may be both external AND internal sensors, if I am reading it right.
Any new info on the HD replacement on none server version? Mine will arrive on Saturday, first thing to replace is the HD with a new Seagate Hybrid HHD 500gb. and 4gb ddr3 from my old Mac mini early 2009 version.
I gotta tell you, changing the RAM on the new Mini is a piece of cake but changing the HD is something else! Even on the old Mini design it's much much easier!
Have you done it? Will someone say something useful about replacing the hard drive already?!
There appears to be an additional hurdle with the temperature sensor. According to French site MacBidouille, Apple now uses the the harddrive's RS 232 interface to get temperature readings. Western Digital, Seagate and Hitachi all use slightly different connectors that are not compatible. So if your Mini ships with a Hitachi drive, it come with the Hitachi compatible cable. You can still put in a drive by another manufacturer, but won't be able to connect the cable to get temperature readings. As a result, it appears the the fan spins at max power all the time! It may be possible to use a tool like smartfan to manually get the fan under control, but if you want to use Apple's own fan control, you have to stick to whatever harddrive brand your mini ships with.
Haven't confirmed this myself yet, still waiting for my mini. I was planning on upgrading to one of those new Seagate Hybrid drives.
Haven't confirmed this myself yet, still waiting for my mini. I was planning on upgrading to one of those new Seagate Hybrid drives.
Aw ****. No third party drives then, as with the new iMacs. There is some firmware issues between Apple's drives and third party drives, making the temperature sensor read improperly and thus causing the fan to go full speed.
Don't think it will be an issue, though. I intend to short those wires out like I did with my iMac a few months back when I put in an SSD.