As you said yourself, the quote is a hypothetical statement at a time when Jobs was not in charge of Apple. That show of temporary bitterness does not change the fact that it was Jobs who later went on to lead Apple into the Mac's golden age which started a few years after his return, with OS X and later the switch to Intel.
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New Mac Pro at WWDC June 2016
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As you said yourself, the quote is a hypothetical statement at a time when Jobs was not in charge of Apple. That show of temporary bitterness does not change the fact that it was Jobs who later went on to lead Apple into the Mac's golden age which started a few years after his return, with OS X and later the switch to Intel.
The statement itself is not hypothetical. The situation became non-hypothetical after his return.
Jobs needed Macs to survive long enough to get to the iPod , then iPhone, then iPad and to what the next great thing will be after that. So they weren't axed immediately like the Netwon, but there is nothing in his statement that he would prematurely kill off Macs. It wasn't a total vampire milking where there was zero R&D plowed back in initially ("stop feeding the cow but leave it hooked to a milking machine 10 hrs a day"). As long as Mac sales had growth the profits far outweighed the investment. As growth has slowed there has been no increased on R&D expenditure. That is a milking. It is a sustained milking. Apple has a mid single digit percentage of the classic PC market with OS X and they manage the product line to stay in the highly profitable subset of the market.
Switching to Intel lowered costs and lead to higher profitably. That isn't disconnected from milking either. Basing the Mac mini on being a headless Laptop isn't disconnected from milking. Dropping discrete monitors but keeping LCD sales up by integrating the display into the iMac .... isn't disconnected from milking. There are a long list of moves to limit and shape the Mac product line to maximize the profit margin over the tenure of Jobs second return.
Jobs was not cheerleading the "box with slots" Mac form factor (which is what this particular forum is suppose to be about). Smaller, slimmer systems is what he was personally pitching on stage towards the end of his tenure. What the Mac line up is now is largely smaller, slimmer systems than 5 years ago.
What platform will develop content and apps for iOS? Apple Music or iCloud?
PC's are not going anywhere. Whole industry is in transition, from one paradigm to another. Were exactly in between them. That is why Apple stalled with updates of their hardware.
Cheerleading or not, the G5 cheese grater was introduced five years after his return. It was his doing, not some leftover from before his return. And as for "towards the end of his tenure", wooing the crowd by pulling a Macbook Air out of an envelope is not the same thing as announcing the neutering of the Mac Pro. I'm going to need your help to find the specific quotes that showed his intent to kill off the pro desktop as it was known when he was alive.
Speaking of five years, do you know who died five years ago?
The fact is Apple did make a computer we wanted, did everything they could to lock us into their ecosystem, then abandoned us.
on a scale of 1-10, how clear is this to you? /s
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This is really simple.
Obviously Jobs was always looking for the next big thing and that is where most of his energy probably went. But when he was still around the Mac was not relegated to the role of red headed stepchild, like it is today and people were not allowed to make stupid design decisions like removing the vents from the back of the iMac, which causes thermal problems, because suddenly design has taken priority of function at Apple. The man could walk and chew gum at the same time. He saw into the future and present at the same time. Jobs 'got it'. He saw the iPad as part of the future, but he also understood you need a much bigger machine to generate the content you are going to consume on said mobile device. The current crew don't have his insight or vision.
There is really nothing more to this.
Obviously Jobs was always looking for the next big thing and that is where most of his energy probably went. But when he was still around the Mac was not relegated to the role of red headed stepchild, like it is today and people were not allowed to make stupid design decisions like removing the vents from the back of the iMac, which causes thermal problems, because suddenly design has taken priority of function at Apple. The man could walk and chew gum at the same time. He saw into the future and present at the same time. Jobs 'got it'. He saw the iPad as part of the future, but he also understood you need a much bigger machine to generate the content you are going to consume on said mobile device. The current crew don't have his insight or vision.
There is really nothing more to this.
If this was pre-2011, yes. It is 2016; no.
They revealed the Mac Pro THREE YEARS AGO.... three years and no upgrades. The unveil at WWDC was to get people revved up, but the new Pro will not be a redesign on any major scale. They will quietly release the upgrade in Fall; it will be ticked on the end of the iPad keynote this year. If lucky.
They revealed the Mac Pro THREE YEARS AGO.... three years and no upgrades. The unveil at WWDC was to get people revved up, but the new Pro will not be a redesign on any major scale. They will quietly release the upgrade in Fall; it will be ticked on the end of the iPad keynote this year. If lucky.
I have been eagerly waiting for the Mac Pro update and I hope that Serben is right! It's an automatic "first day" purchase for me.
richmlow
richmlow
What I was asking is..who is he/she. Does Serben work at shipping company or something? How does he get infos?
I'm asking because i don't know who this person is and people just flocking to him.
From what I can gather within the thread, Serban has a "reputation" for accurate information in the past. It appears that he/she is involved in the testing of Apple prototypes.
richmlow
richmlow
Oh okay. That makes sense. Thanks! I was wondering who this person is and how he was able to obtain "prototype" infos.
He's also known for the occasional drunk/joke posting:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...gns-price-points.1757350/page-4#post-19391936
As for accuracy in general I'm not really sure. Maybe his role as an owner of a construction company gives him unique access to Apple prototypes, or maybe it's the absolutely gigantic amount of posts he makes that guarantees that some of it will be correct.
I can see that Serban talks about a new MBP but he/she does not give details of a new Mac Pro unfortunately. Would be great if he/she joins this thread and gives us a hint of Mac Pro 7.1 on the way for WWDC.
There most likely will be an nMP at MacWorld SF '16.
Will there be an nnMP ?
Great Q!
Its time for a nMP! If Apple don't use the Broadwell EP processors, the only option left for them would be to wait another 10 months until the Skylake EP are launched, meaning the end of the MP. Because what excuse would they have to maintain an empty factory for over 4 years when the rest of the companies are already in the market??
I dont think I could even survive to that. My avatar reflects the opposite of how I feel about it.
It has to be this June, otherwise i'll start to use heroin!
LOL. I have a good feeling it will...and I'm hoping (less likely) that it will be GPU upgradable.
Bring back the old tower, update internals, paint it black, done.