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For those that help express themselves best with a whiteboard, desk view is going to be a great feature in meetings. To be able to sketch quickly and share that with coworkers is pretty useful.
 
Is it an upgrade though? The M1-M3 iMac webcam was pretty good. I'd like to see a back to back comparison with the new one. I'm a little wary of the center stage cameras.
Absolutely right. I think what we’ll see here is a downgrade because they’ll have put an ultra-wide in in place of a standard focal length camera. I won’t be surprised if it looks as bad as the Studio Display’s.
 
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i hope they never put faceid on the laptops. You would just automatically be authenticating everything. Its nice to have an explicit step with the finger to approve.
that's the same reason why I like Touch ID on everything, including iPhones and iPads, but Face ID defenders get riled up about it every time someone says that for iPhone/iPad
 
I don’t have a MacBook but they unlock automatically when you wear a Watch, right? So pardon my ignorance, but why would I care for FaceID on a laptop? Wouldn’t it just make the camera island bigger and more expensive?
Not to mention that it would require more space than the thinness of the screen on a laptop allows. Physics says no.
 
Thanks for
I assume it means it can do what the existing desk view can already do and show 2 video streams at the same time, one from the wide angle lens that captures your desk, and the regular camera lens centred on your face?
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Thanks for the explanation! Wondering though how large the target audience for this feature is. Can’t think of many typical MBP buyers working with work-relevant stuff on their desk that they don’t have digitized.

Also, is the lady in the OP working in a zoo? What’s with all the cage walls.
 
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Yup, of course...

The Studio Display camera is almost like an afterthought....
It would be less of an insult if they omitted the built-in camera and offered an external model. Most users hold on to displays for a long time, and an external camera is upgradeable, and optional for those who don't need or want one to begin with.
 
xps 13/15 got some pretty thin top bezels. Is it as thin as Apple's? maybe not, but it's thin enough and definitely thinner than the notch
They have thin bezels on the left and right, but at the top, it’s more like a cm. The area of the XPS 15 is 16:10, minus the Taskbar. The area under the notch is 16:10, so it makes the entire screen content (because the menu bar is moved up and out of the way).
 
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Absolutely right. I think what we’ll see here is a downgrade because they’ll have put an ultra-wide in in place of a standard focal length camera. I won’t be surprised if it looks as bad as the Studio Display’s.
Totally agree with this. If they do essentially downgrade the MacBook Pro because of this I expect some major backlash. Can't imagine Apple would let this happen. That garbage camera in the Studio Display should be recalled.
 
I don’t have a MacBook but they unlock automatically when you wear a Watch, right? So pardon my ignorance, but why would I care for FaceID on a laptop? Wouldn’t it just make the camera island bigger and more expensive? And you’d need some kind of button to activate it for authenticating anyway, so leaving TouchID on the MacBooks sounds already fancy enough to me. The screens of MacBooks Air at least also can’t be opened very far so if you’re standing up and just quickly want to unlock the machine it would be a less than ideal experience too.
2060 then.
 
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i hope they never put faceid on the laptops. You would just automatically be authenticating everything. Its nice to have an explicit step with the finger to approve.
Are you German?

FaceID in iPhone exists for more than ten years and “accidentally” authorizations are prevent by a double-click of the power button.

Never used Apple Pay or the App Store?
 
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I think for that price a notebook should have an iPhone level camera. The same is true for the iPad Pro. Of course that would make the display thicker, but that additional space could be used for other components.
 
Not everyone has an Apple Watch so adding Face ID would be a great convenience feature. And given the size of the Dynamic Island on the iPhone, I doubt it would make the camera island bigger. As for needing a button, Apple could just make an adjustment to the software to allow for Face ID activation before authentication when necessary.

Software can be compromised. Touch ID works for Macs because you have a hardware key that can't be spoofed.
 
Are you German?

FaceID in iPhone exists for more than ten years and “accidentally” authorizations are prevent by a double-click of the power button.

Never used Apple Pay or the App Store?

So you'd have a largely redundant key sitting on the keyboard just for FaceID authorisations? Not exactly elegant.
 
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They saving Face ID for 2040?

It would be interesting to know what the true reason behind the lack of Face ID for the Mac is.

Perhaps there's a technical or some UX limitation there we don't know about, or perhaps Apple is concerned about the additional increase in BOM. Whatever the case may be, l hope we see it sooner rather than later.
 
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