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It would be interesting to know what the true reason behind the lack of Face ID for the Mac is.

Perhaps there's a technical or some UX limitation there we don't know about, or perhaps Apple is concerned about the additional increase in BOM. Whatever the case may be, l hope we see it sooner rather than later.
Could be display thickness/thinness. Or just a lack of motivation. Or that they make too many different variants of different products, and are in too many market segments for software and services, and overall have lost some focus.
 
i hope they never put faceid on the laptops. You would just automatically be authenticating everything. Its nice to have an explicit step with the finger to approve.
It’s on the iPad Pro and no, you don’t automatically authenticate everything. It’s actually more convenient in my opinion.
 
I assume it means it can do what the existing desk view can already do and show 2 video streams at the same time, one from the wide angle lens that captures your desk, and the regular camera lens centred on your face?
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I’m curious. Is Desk View really a thing? Does it have a user base & are people really using it. I cannot think of when/how this is useful (to me)
 
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Hoping this means the rumored software upgrade for the iPad M4 front camera drops soon. For a premium device, its low-light performance is truly terrible—grain city!
 
Software can be compromised. Touch ID works for Macs because you have a hardware key that can't be spoofed.
This isn’t a problem with an iPhone so I don’t think it would be with a Mac. For any of those uncomfortable with it I’m sure Face ID could be turned off just like on an iPhone. And Touch ID could still be included on the keyboard so you’d have the best of both worlds.
 
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Why no Face ID? Given it's likely the same module as an iPhone front camera...
Sensor thickness would be a good guess. There is alot more depth on a phone. And it's only the same camera sensor I believe, not the same module.

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I don’t want Face ID on the iMac. Touch ID is very convenient like it is. At least I know what I am doing when it asks for ID recognition
 
I don’t have a MacBook but they unlock automatically when you wear a Watch, right? So pardon my ignorance, but why would I care for FaceID on a laptop? Wouldn’t it just make the camera island bigger and more expensive? And you’d need some kind of button to activate it for authenticating anyway, so leaving TouchID on the MacBooks sounds already fancy enough to me. The screens of MacBooks Air at least also can’t be opened very far so if you’re standing up and just quickly want to unlock the machine it would be a less than ideal experience too.
There are several reasons why authentication by Apple Watch is not as good.

The first one is safety. My Apple Watch has unlocked both our previous iMac and our current Mac studio when my wife sits down in front of the computer and I'm in the room next to it. So while acceptable in a home - at least without kids - it's not something I'd trust in an office environment.

Second, not everyone has an Apple watch. They could be in a professional setting and use something that looks more aligned with their attire, training addicts using watches that are better for that (Garmin, Polar, Suunto, etc), not able to use watches on their arms at work (eg. health care professionals), just not into the style, not finding the battery life on Apple watch acceptable - or just not using a watch at all.

The real competition would be touch ID - there are advantages to face id (e.g. my old mother can hardly use touch ID), but are they big enough to warrant the effort?
 
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It would be interesting to know what the true reason behind the lack of Face ID for the Mac is.

Perhaps there's a technical or some UX limitation there we don't know about, or perhaps Apple is concerned about the additional increase in BOM. Whatever the case may be, l hope we see it sooner rather than later.
Use a search engine to find out how thick the lid of a MBP is. Then use a search engine to find out how thick the thinnest phone that supports Face ID is. If you’re truly interested, you’ll get your answer.
 
Let's just say, this hardware upgrade is around 3-4 years too late...
Just M3 was almost beating all the M3 competitors… and this came just to settle. Its far faster than many desktop counterparts in the PC area in an unplugged PC.

Seems like you are buying the future here
 
i hope they never put faceid on the laptops. You would just automatically be authenticating everything. Its nice to have an explicit step with the finger to approve.
They could add it and leave Touch ID in as well.

I care for FaceID on a laptop? Wouldn’t it just make the camera island bigger and more expensive? And you’d need some kind of button to activate it for authenticating anyway, so leaving TouchID on the MacBooks sounds already fancy enough to me. The screens of MacBooks Air at least also can’t be opened very far so if you’re standing up and just quickly want to unlock the machine it would be a less than ideal experience too.

You could still have Touch ID so it would be an addition some may find useful and others disable.

Still has a notch…

Much better than a bigger bezel, which people would complain about, or a punch hole.

that's the same reason why I like Touch ID on everything, including iPhones and iPads, but Face ID defenders get riled up about it every time someone says that for iPhone/iPad

I don’t get it. They could easiy add TouchID to the power buttion on all mobile devices as an option without deleting Touch ID.


So you'd have a largely redundant key sitting on the keyboard just for FaceID authorisations? Not exactly elegant.

But very practical and secure; and not bypassed by say law enforcement simply holding your phone to your face. It’s a computer not a work of art, and the focus needs to be on function, not form.
 
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They could add it and leave t]Touch ID in as well.



You could still have Touch ID so it would be an addition


Much better than a bigger bezel, whic peopel would complain about, or a punch hole.


I don’t get it. They could easiy add TouchID to the power buttion on all mobile devices as an option without deleting Touch ID.




But very practical and secure; and not bypassed by say law enforcement simply holding your phone to your face. It’s a computer not a work of art, and the focus needs to be on function, not form.
true, I really wonder what's the technical reason (if any) that they can't put both in
 
true, I really wonder what's the technical reason (if any) that they can't put both in
Cost? It might be small, but adding even small costs in can have a negative impact on price/margins as the begin to add up.
 
Cost? It might be small, but adding even small costs in can have a negative impact on price/margins as the begin to add up.
I was wondering more in the lines of (hypothetically) the secure enclave can only take one type of biometric data, that kind of technical reasons
 
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