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New macbooks ghosting issues
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There's a few rumours around it, including a Twitter post by Anandtech. I'm waiting for a more in-depth review where they really drill down on it. Both this and Anandtech's example showed it best in slow motion, with white text on a black background. Remains to be seen how it will be in real use.
Where is this tweet? I do not see Anandtech tweeting about it, unless you mean someone who works for Anandtech?
You're right, it was somebody working for Anandtech:
It's still there if you look for it. But it's veeeeeeery subtle. I don't know how bad it is on the iPad, but on my 16" MBP... total non-issue.
This is very important because I spend all my time jiggling the trackpad like that.
If you have never used a high refresh rate display with extremely low latency than it is a noticeable difference. I will wait to really see, hopefully the latency (ghosting issue) really isn't noticeable. It's a big amount $ to accept sever ghosting.
People did complain about ghosting on the iPad.. and also the 2019 MBP 16. And various other MBPs. Apple's displays usually have very slow response times in the 35-50ms range. I wonder if the effect is worst on this or are people just noticing it.
Wow this is not good! Hopefully isolated cases. I wouldn’t keep the computer in this state
Having response times that high on a 120 Hz display doesn’t make sense, since 120 Hz is 8.33 ms. I know refresh rate and pixel response are not synonymous, but just saying.
Agree, maybe it has something to do with pro motion slowing down the HZ.
Apple's displays have been slammed for not even having response times able to keep up with 60Hz (5K iMac, modern Retina MacBooks). The iPad Pro when 120Hz was added had similar issues and threads. This is practically SOP for Apple at this point.
My 16" MBP smears as it is, so this isn't too surprising to see. Apple's probably more interested in just smoothness of motion, and cadence matching video content, not clarity at these framerates. Which *is* a shame, motion clarity is honestly an undervalued metric on monitors and TVs alike. I'm mostly just hoping it's not objectionable when I get mine.
Eww. Going to test this in the apple store today. I wonder if it's because the adaptive refresh rate thought it was static and dropped it down to 20hz or something.
Does it happen in all apps or just Terminal or that programming app whatever it is?
Im getting the 16 tomorrow gonna make a video and compare with my 2019 16 and share with you guys. Damn I was so hyped about finally good snappy 120hz displays in these paired with M1. If the new one is the same as my old I return it.
So after using with my 16” this morning I can confirm that the response rate on these panels is lackluster. 120 hz doesn’t feel like 120 hz, in fact changing between 60hz and promotion settings it’s a very subtle difference. It’s disapponting but the display otherwise is ****ing gorgeous with near OLED blacks. I didn’t expect 120hz this time so it’s not a deal breaker for me.
Do you have ipad pro or another device with pro motion or it is your first device with this feature. Something it seems percepetion of 120 hz is very subjective.