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New nvidia gtx 1080, really makes this imac seem paltry
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http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/06/nvidias-new-gtx-1080-gpu-is-even-faster-than-the-titan-x/
I assume we've all seen it by now, this super powerful new gpu from Nvidia is more powerful than the current Titan X, is 400 bucks cheaper, and uses a third of the energy. Seeing modern technology like this and then comparing it to the top end gpu you can get in the iMac is just super.... disappointing. I paid 3200 dollars for a computer that studders when working with footage from my sub 500 dollar Gopro hero black??? And it's not even six months old, how screwed am I going to be in 5 years??? If they can figure out a way to get a hackintosh computer that supports this gpu then I'm selling my imac in a heartbeat.
It's a bummer how far behind Apple is on these kind of technologies. But oOooo the screen is able to display p3 color! And look how thin it is! *eye roll
I have no issue editing Protune Gopro video with Final Cut Pro X.....you may have software issue or workflow issue (like not converting the protune video to Pro-res)
its already been released that 1080...so the next imac dgpu should be the next amd or nvidia 990M or if they wait for the 1080M..
[doublepost=1462868501][/doublepost]and i think they can easily put this the desktop gpu is only 600$ and uses less W, so i guess the mobile one will use even less than 980M
[doublepost=1462868501][/doublepost]and i think they can easily put this the desktop gpu is only 600$ and uses less W, so i guess the mobile one will use even less than 980M
Cost vs use case and how often its used. On a non professional level (the topic here) you can get very good performance at a fraction of the price, you even linked a good video.
The exception I would make with the 1080 is gaming where the cost vs performance gap closes quite a bit.
I like to take slow motion videos, WHY shouldn't I buy a 300,000 dollar slow motion camera? Illustrating extremes sometimes helps...I don't know, what do you think?
Ah I see.
Yeah... that's why I spent $150 on a GTX 750ti instead of $700 for a GTX 980ti.
I went from having zero CUDA cores to having 640 CUDA cores. And it greatly improved my workflow. NVidia cards do wonders for Adobe software on Windows PCs. Shame you can't upgrade iMacs yourself.
You're right... the OP probably shouldn't buy a GTX 1080 for a hobby. (even if he could use it in his iMac)
I thought you were talking about GPUs for video editing in general... my bad.
I've actually got my eye on the GTX 1070... it's only $379. It's a hell of a card for the price. I do video editing professionally though.
Gear can end up paying for itself in a short amount of time. If someone can spend $3,000 on a camera... $600 for a video card that speeds up their workflow isn't out of the ordinary
Just so we're all clear. Apple, still the worlds most valuable company in the world, who is developing a car, and is still the leader in mobile technologies....needs to "innovate or die."
The lack of perspective in this forum is staggering.
I think the perspective on target.
Yes, Apple is the most valuable company, but they're also seeing a huge drop off in laptop sales (40%), their iPhone sales are flattening out, their iPad sales have been sliding for years.
I'm not anti-apple but I agree with the perspective that apple does need to keep innovating, to continue to be the worlds most valuable company and still be the leader of mobile technologies.
What's that point? That a all-in-one computer doesn't have a desktop GPU that's not available to the public yet?
Doesn't expect to see a 1080 (non m) in an iMac for a laundry list of reasons.
This thread has been popping up on every major GPU released and those that aren't educated on the topic always seem compelled to call out Apple. Fact is, if you need a 1080 you should be looking into a desktop tower type rig for it whether it's used for gaming and/or editing, not an AIO computer from Apple or any other manufacturer.
5.5 Tera flops and 8G GDDR5/X for the iMac w/ better than Mac Pro Gpu performance (dual D500), what do you guys think? Good enough? http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-480x-470x-specs-allegedly-revealed/#ixzz48b0zrHCB
This is true. I stayed the cMP route and ended up maximizing the machines specs, including that 4xPCIe SSD in the x16 slot and currently use the GTX 980 (which I will probably switch to a 1080 once its verified it works and is stable).
I've had zero issues and 4K editing is extremely smooth using Premiere Pro CC. And Premiere uses a lot of of the computers resources, utilizing most of the 12-cores and GPU power, so a eel-balanced system will work best.
There is going to be a collective squeal of pain once the new GPUs get into the Apple lineup and Barefeats tests them. All of the old non-upgradeable GPUs are going to look like they are stuck in Molasses. The 5K iMacs are going to look really silly for running at 100C . Instead of the usual generation jump in performance, we are getting 1 1/2 due to new process combined with new tech.
I've abandoned all hope with Macs in general. I've purchased Macbook Pros, towers, iMacs, and Mac Minis. And I'm done. I'm going to build my own PC with the new GTX 1080. I'll still use my Macbook Pro for email and web browsing, but that's about it. For years I've waited for Apple to catch up on graphics hardware and improve their graphics software. But it still lags far behind what Windows is doing. DirectX is massively more powerful. I absolutely despise the Windows operating system, but all my gaming friends are headed there. Overwatch is now Windows- and console-only. And if I have a better experience with graphics processing in Adobe CC, I may just switch over to Windows for that as well.
Apple has put all its efforts into building new iOS devices, and unfortunately Macs are no longer their priority. So Hackintosh/Windows here I come. o/
Apple has put all its efforts into building new iOS devices, and unfortunately Macs are no longer their priority. So Hackintosh/Windows here I come. o/
I've been a mac user since the Macintosh SE days, I've never known them to have cutting, (or bleading) edge GPUs, They've always seemed to be a generation or two behind or they'd never select the fastest one.
Given that observation, if your needs are such that need or want such heavy duty GPUs, then Apple is not the right manufacturer for you
Minis, MBPs and even iMacs have never had very powerful GPUs, heck, the 13" MBP and the Mini both use iGPUs, so I think its silly to condemn them for not having the best dGPUs on the market when those models don't even have them.
I understand your point, and I'm big believer in selecting the best tool for the job, if I wanted to play the best and most intensive games, I'd select a PC with the appropriate hardware, Macs would not be on the list. Likewise, if you have certain needs with regard to the hardware, waiting for apple is not really the best option.
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Agree with maflynn that Apple never choose the top of the line GPU. The only Mac can use the fastest GPU is the old Mac Pro. But that model is now stuck with the old CPU, so cannot be a top gaming machine either. However, it's still good enough for me to play GTA V in 4K with dual 7950 in crossfire (in Windows of course). Since you said tat you own the tower. If that's a 4,1 (or 5,1), that should be still a very capable machine (except any job require very high CPU single thread performance).
Get a workstation then. Do you know how much work 4K needs to do to actually run well? Expecting an AIO system to edit 4K without slowing down is absurd at the moment. 4K is insane at the moment. And to expect a full 1080 in an iMac is crazy too.
4K is niche at the moment. Hardly any content is out for it, and the graphics performance is not quite there for AIO and Laptops. It can run, but to expect going from editing in 1080p to 4K WITHOUT any slowdowns is ridiculous. It is 4 times the resolution! Why does my 100x100 composition in Adobe After Effects take a very short time to render vs my 1920x1080 composition?
If you have problem with a GoPro video I wonder what computer you bought....as even older Mac can do fairly well....http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/06/nvidias-new-gtx-1080-gpu-is-even-faster-than-the-titan-x/
I assume we've all seen it by now, this super powerful new gpu from Nvidia is more powerful than the current Titan X, is 400 bucks cheaper, and uses a third of the energy. Seeing modern technology like this and then comparing it to the top end gpu you can get in the iMac is just super.... disappointing. I paid 3200 dollars for a computer that studders when working with footage from my sub 500 dollar Gopro hero black??? And it's not even six months old, how screwed am I going to be in 5 years??? If they can figure out a way to get a hackintosh computer that supports this gpu then I'm selling my imac in a heartbeat.
It's a bummer how far behind Apple is on these kind of technologies. But oOooo the screen is able to display p3 color! And look how thin it is! *eye roll
1080 is a Gaming card (sure the horse power can be used for more than that) but i doubt that for GoPro video would make HUGE difference....
If you are after top specs you should get a home made PC....to me specs are nothing, I care more about the daily usage, and Macs + OS X = better daily usage than TOP of the line specs and WINDOWS / LINUX (also the fotware fro them).
Final Cut X is a breeze in my 2015 11 inches MacBook 4gb ram /256ssd for GoPro video!
Now I don't do 4K and that is for 2 reason, still very limited audience 2 don't see the point of 4k video on GoPro videos.... 1080P is good enough, but if I HAD to do 4k video I would either buy a Mac Pro or a PC.
I still don't get why the pricetag of the GoPro has any relevance here, it's 4K video. It doesn't matter if it's a 4K coming from a RED Epic or a 4K compact Canon camera? I must be missing something.
Uhhhhhhhh the raw video files coming from a RED are called Redraw and the file size is enormous, which is why you need their components just to run it. You have to understand the concept of file formats right? Raw video is bigger than prores and prores is bigger than some compressed footage from an action camera. Hell 1080P footage can be a bigger file than 4k from a GoPro.
I wish they'd bring back a "Classic Mac Pro tower" as the one single Mac option for those of us that love gaming, adding, upgrading, being on the bleeding edge, etc, but who still want a legitimate Mac.
I've been building Hack's for years and it's largely great, but I'd still like to have a normal Mac option to avoid occasional fiddles with iMessage & occasional App store/iCloud issues. Luckily that's become pretty infrequent at least I guess.
I've been building Hack's for years and it's largely great, but I'd still like to have a normal Mac option to avoid occasional fiddles with iMessage & occasional App store/iCloud issues. Luckily that's become pretty infrequent at least I guess.
I still don't get why the pricetag of the GoPro has any relevance here, it's 4K video. It doesn't matter if it's a 4K coming from a RED Epic or a 4K compact Canon camera? I must be missing something.
1 cm^3 of gold and 1 cm^3 of iron are both 1 cm^3 of metal, but their different, different in weight, different in price, different in colour, different in hardness, different in usage....
4K is just about number of pixel, it's a a unit, not a nature.
A GPU can only handle one polygon can still display that single polygon in 4K. However, you cannot play any games on that GPU, it can only handle one polygon.
A GPU can handle billions of polygon still output the same number of pixels in 4K, but the picture will be much much better. Because now there are billions of polygon to form a 4K picture.
In fact, all modern GPU can display 1080P, if all 1080P image are the same, then why we need different GPU? Why some are better then the other? They are all 1080P anyway.
Uninstall Premiere and install Final Cut.
And you can edit 4K on a Macbook.
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Maybe if you used a different tone instead of being condescending I'd be more inclined to take this seriously. As it is, no thanks.
