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If your Mac gets stolen you can always lock it or remotely wipe it using Find My. Obviously that won't work if the person who stole it never connects it to the internet but just thought I'd mention it.
It needs a lot more features before I can switch. Primarily, custom fields.
I have been using this since I updated but I will not just rely on this as my only option so I am still keeping my other password app as well as I still use my pixel from time to time.
This is just another form of lock in by Apple.
This is just another form of lock in by Apple.
You can easily export a nice CSV of all your passwords. How's that "lock in"?
How do you do that. I tried to see if I could do that on the passwords app, and I’ll be damned if I could figure it out.
I would like to use the app more, but unless I can easily export all of my passwords, it’s a no go.
File > Export All Passwords > Confirm you want to export all passwords > Choose location to save the .csv file.
Takes 10 seconds if that.
Define better? It isn’t as advanced or feature-rich, which is to be expected for a new native app competing with a purpose-built app. But it has the convenience factor built in without worrying about updating the app or installing extensions etc. So it’s very much a personal preference.
And its integration is what may pull
me away from 1Password. The latter definitely has more power features but requires more work to set up and use.
Tough call.
If Passwords supported other browsers (Firefox, Orion, Chrome, etc) it would be a stronger contender in my mind. But keeping it only limited to Safari is a non-starter since I don't use it very often (which I'm sure is why they only support Safari).
Ok, I have a question. Can passwords app have multiple accounts for the same website?
For instance, I use ADP for several accounts (former jobs, but still need to access the account).
Or, maybe a more popular case, many people have multiple Reddit accounts. Can Passwords save each of those accounts?
Edit: I just created a new Reddit account, signed in and saved it. It looks like Passwords saves both accounts, so I guess I just answered my own question.
For instance, I use ADP for several accounts (former jobs, but still need to access the account).
Or, maybe a more popular case, many people have multiple Reddit accounts. Can Passwords save each of those accounts?
Edit: I just created a new Reddit account, signed in and saved it. It looks like Passwords saves both accounts, so I guess I just answered my own question.
Yes, Keychain was also able to do this before the Passwords app was introduced in iOS18.
No. I also use this in 1P. I guess I can use Notes & lock it? but defeats some of the purpose.
I also just realized that Passwords does not have a Watch app. I use the 1P watch integration enough that it's a feature I don't want to lose. Unless I'm missing something and just didn't see how to access it?
I can save you some time here: Passwords is a brand new app and isn't close to matching 1P feature-for-feature. I expect to see secure notes added in the future, but as you say, Apple may feel like that's what password-protected Notes are for.
If you're with 1P (I am too) then it's premature to fully migrate across unless you only use 1P for storing passwords.
Personally I use both, and intend to continue doing that. The horror story of someone on another thread saying their daughter lost access to their Apple ID which also meant being unable to access their Keychain passwords, which also meant they wouldn't be able to get to banking passwords etc, really underlined the importance of having something this essential outside of the ecosystem — at least to some extent.
What led us to 1Password ages ago was Apple‘s suite of services - dot Mac - which included keychain syncing support that my wife and I heavily used, paying the subscription price initially; the keychain support was discontinued when they migrated to the me.com system, so I found and began to use 1Password, as both of us can access it being able to see anything stored there by either of us. I’ve yet to have enough confidence that something like this couldn’t happen again. It really isn't likely that Apple would ever discontinue iCloud but I didn’t think they would discontinue dot Mac since it was a paid for service. And these days access to secure items and account passwords, since you can’t use 1234 anymore
, is vital. I have to admit that we use Passwords far more than 1Password these days but I’m not ready to let go just yet.
I had actually been using both (or at least passwords in Keychain) for a long while and had hoped Passwords the app would have more but it def doesn't. I've been testing a migration to Passwords/Bitwarden but it's a clunky duo. But will work for anyone who wants to save the annual sub fee of 1P.
I tried migrating my 2FA codes from Google's Authenticator to Passwords. These codes are visible on my Mac but got deleted from my phone after updating it to 18.2.
As a long time 1Password user I was sceptical about the Apple implementation. However as a pure Apple user, the cross platform ability of 1Password wasn't needed.
I decided before Christmas to sort out my passwords, which frankly a mess. For years I had been using the same couple of passwords everywhere, with a few subtle variations. Both 1Password and the Passwords app were giving (literally) 100's of warnings due to compromised passwords, reused passwords and easily guessed passwords. So I spent a good couple of days fixing every account password until every password used was a strong password with zero reused.
I then realised that there were some passwords only in 1Password and not in the Passwords app (and vice versa), so I exported everything from 1Password and imported into the Passwords app.
My 1Password subscription was due to be renewed in a few weeks, so I decided to completely remove the 1Passwords installs on my MacBook, iPad and iPhone to see if I could live with just the Apple Passwords app. After a week or so I decided I could, so I cancelled my 1Password auto renewal .
The only thing I missed was the ability to store all my credit/debit card info. Safari AutoFill covers the basic info but not the full account info I had in iPassword. So I created a Numbers spreadsheet to hold the full account info, stored on an encrypted disk image for safety.
The only mistake I made was making my Apple ID password a random strong password. I realised if I lost my iPhone and I was away from home, I would have no way to log onto my iCloud account on another device as I would have no idea what the password was. So that has now been changed to a complex password that I can remember without the need of a password manager.
It took a of work to unify everything, but things feel much more secure now.
I decided before Christmas to sort out my passwords, which frankly a mess. For years I had been using the same couple of passwords everywhere, with a few subtle variations. Both 1Password and the Passwords app were giving (literally) 100's of warnings due to compromised passwords, reused passwords and easily guessed passwords. So I spent a good couple of days fixing every account password until every password used was a strong password with zero reused.
I then realised that there were some passwords only in 1Password and not in the Passwords app (and vice versa), so I exported everything from 1Password and imported into the Passwords app.
My 1Password subscription was due to be renewed in a few weeks, so I decided to completely remove the 1Passwords installs on my MacBook, iPad and iPhone to see if I could live with just the Apple Passwords app. After a week or so I decided I could, so I cancelled my 1Password auto renewal .
The only thing I missed was the ability to store all my credit/debit card info. Safari AutoFill covers the basic info but not the full account info I had in iPassword. So I created a Numbers spreadsheet to hold the full account info, stored on an encrypted disk image for safety.
The only mistake I made was making my Apple ID password a random strong password. I realised if I lost my iPhone and I was away from home, I would have no way to log onto my iCloud account on another device as I would have no idea what the password was. So that has now been changed to a complex password that I can remember without the need of a password manager.
It took a of work to unify everything, but things feel much more secure now.