New to Android, App Quality

[Brittany246]

No, you see the Nexus 4 is completely different I had a N7 and it did lag a lot I agree on that. But the Nexus 4 really does not lag(there is a very,very slight input delay however)

Yeah, but I still don't like the app store, so I'm not going to bother.

 

[Assault]

I'm not even CLOSE to a close minded person. I gave android a try, and had a bad experience with my Nexus 7. I'm not going to waste any more money on android devices until the things I dislike about it are fixed. Why would I try a Nexus 4 if I didn't even like my Nexus 7? Why can't people understand that not everyone who dislikes things about android are close minded? Android devices aren't good for everyone. If I say I don't like something about android, everyone acts like there's something wrong with me. If I was close minded I never would have even bought a Nexus 7. I really tried to like it, but after a while I honestly couldn't stand it.

Doesn't have anything to do with you disliking Android. That is obvious. The iissue is you stating opinions as though they are fact. Like I said above, Android isn't for everyone. You believing that Apple is holier than thou when it comes to securing your info, not data mining, preventing all forms of malware... Got news for you; Apple is just as bad as Google, Amazon, and all the other tech companies when it comes to your info. Look to the latest news articles on NSA spying and you will see Apple is in the same predicament as the other tech companies.

 

[Googlerola]

Doesn't have anything to do with you disliking Android. That is obvious. The iissue is you stating opinions as though they are fact. Like I said above, Android isn't for everyone. You believing that Apple is holier than thou when it comes to securing your info, not data mining, preventing all forms of malware... Got news for you; Apple is just as bad as Google, Amazon, and all the other tech companies when it comes to your info. Look to the latest news articles on NSA spying and you will see Apple is in the same predicament as the other tech companies.

Completely off topic but I can change the app drawer icon with nova launcher prime and can change colour of the buttons with soft key Z.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Yeah, but I still don't like the app store, so I'm not going to bother.

Theres probably close to a million apps now. How many did you try?

 

[Jessica Lares]

I don't think Android tablets are up to par yet. The apps are getting better, like I just saw this awesome diagramming app called TouchDraw which I'm drooling over, haha, but overall there still needs work to be done - Like developers need to get off their ass and develop something that is actually useful for a person using a tablet, and not just tweak after tweak.

And yeah, the phone experience is much, much, much better.

 

[Fireblade]

It would have been better if you did the PIC with Yoda saying "And that is why you fail"

Haha yes, he would deserve Joda too

 

[Brittany246]

Doesn't have anything to do with you disliking Android. That is obvious. The iissue is you stating opinions as though they are fact. Like I said above, Android isn't for everyone. You believing that Apple is holier than thou when it comes to securing your info, not data mining, preventing all forms of malware... Got news for you; Apple is just as bad as Google, Amazon, and all the other tech companies when it comes to your info. Look to the latest news articles on NSA spying and you will see Apple is in the same predicament as the other tech companies.

I was talking about the apps. Not sure why you keep twisting my words. I don't have to worry about the actual apps stealing my address book without my knowledge or adding random crap to my phone. Keep trying to argue with me about stuff that I'm not even talking about...

 

[Brittany246]

Theres probably close to a million apps now. How many did you try?

I use an ass ton of apps. The app store for a phone pretty much makes or breaks a phone for me. There are so many apps that the google play store doesn't have... or you'll have to wait months to find the android version of an app. Developers probably prefer iOS because it's easier to develop apps for iOS devices. So, the apple app store is usually the first to get an app if they release the iOS and Android version on separate days. The apple app store has a better selection of apps from what I've seen.

 

[scuba156]

Check reviews and user ratings. Which apps are you claiming added images to your phone, stole your information, etc?

Facebook on android has always been terrible compared to iOS. It has improved alot but is still not on par. People have been asking for a native facebook app on android for a long time now but thats up to facebook to do. That's why there's alternatives.

 

[Jessica Lares]

People EXPECT apps to be on every platform, and that's your problem right there. I think as much as developers need to protect their IP, consumers like Brittany here need to use common sense. Developers will always post on their website whether their app is on another platform, and if they don't, it's 99% likely that it isn't and you shouldn't be downloading apps thinking that they are what they say they are. NOTE: I'm not saying you do this, but I'm using it as an example, because it happens almost everyday on Google Play.

We have to look at Android vs iOS vs Windows Phone as if it were Xbox vs PlayStation vs Wii, because while iOS has a multitude of apps that pretty much all do the same thing, in the case of photo apps, Android has the one that beats the rest of them.

I've been using iOS since the beginning, and honestly, I've spent more than $1,000+ on apps. You find the one you like, and then the developer doesn't come back for the next OS update and it breaks. And you're forced to update, because developers have no choice but to drop support down the line. If that wasn't the case, I think there would easily still be a chunk of people on iOS 4.

And while there are security issues with Android, there are also things that are overlooked - Such as browser updates that come all the time. If your browser is being updated all the time, and you're still on 2.3 Gingerbread and using Dolphin/Opera, that's still a LOT better than being stuck on iOS 4 and outdated Safari.

Being stuck on Gingerbread is perfectly fine too. You bought an app back in 2010, and you're probably still using it now because it still works. I can't say that about the MAJORITY of stuff I bought during iOS 3/4 which broke with deprecated APIs, among other stuff.

But really, people need to be willing to look for alternatives, and if you're not, don't even bother because you're going to be sorely disappointed. It's like switching from OS X to Windows, only to find that 99% of the apps you use don't exist for the platform.

 

[Brittany246]

People EXPECT apps to be on every platform, and that's your problem right there. I think as much as developers need to protect their IP, consumers like Brittany here need to use common sense. Developers will always post on their website whether their app is on another platform, and if they don't, it's 99% likely that it isn't and you shouldn't be downloading apps thinking that they are what they say they are. NOTE: I'm not saying you do this, but I'm using it as an example, because it happens almost everyday on Google Play.

We have to look at Android vs iOS vs Windows Phone as if it were Xbox vs PlayStation vs Wii, because while iOS has a multitude of apps that pretty much all do the same thing, in the case of photo apps, Android has the one that beats the rest of them.

I've been using iOS since the beginning, and honestly, I've spent more than $1,000+ on apps. You find the one you like, and then the developer doesn't come back for the next OS update and it breaks. And you're forced to update, because developers have no choice but to drop support down the line. If that wasn't the case, I think there would easily still be a chunk of people on iOS 4.

And while there are security issues with Android, there are also things that are overlooked - Such as browser updates that come all the time. If your browser is being updated all the time, and you're still on 2.3 Gingerbread and using Dolphin/Opera, that's still a LOT better than being stuck on iOS 4 and outdated Safari.

Being stuck on Gingerbread is perfectly fine too. You bought an app back in 2010, and you're probably still using it now because it still works. I can't say that about the MAJORITY of stuff I bought during iOS 3/4 which broke with deprecated APIs, among other stuff.

But really, people need to be willing to look for alternatives, and if you're not, don't even bother because you're going to be sorely disappointed. It's like switching from OS X to Windows, only to find that 99% of the apps you use don't exist for the platform.

I don't see a problem in expecting certain apps to be in the play store. Who would waste time checking the developer's site? The play store has around the same number of apps as the apple app store... maybe even more. I wouldn't expect the same of the windows phone app store because it has a fraction of the apps.

My point is that the play store doesn't have many of the apps that I use. I don't care if I should expect it or not. They're not there.

 

[Krimsonmyst]

I was talking about the apps. Not sure why you keep twisting my words. I don't have to worry about the actual apps stealing my address book without my knowledge or adding random crap to my phone. Keep trying to argue with me about stuff that I'm not even talking about...

Which apps in particular are you worried about stealing your data? It's all well and good for you to not want to use Android based on a previous experience...but to say it's because you're scared of malware or apps stealing your information...come on.

Google is just as diligent as Apple in removing dodgy apps. The only time people get malware through apps is if they download them from somewhere other than the play store.

If you prefer ios, that's all you have to say. No need to make outrageous claims to support your obviously one sided view.

 

[scuba156]

I don't see a problem in expecting certain apps to be in the play store. Who would waste time checking the developer's site? The play store has around the same number of apps as the apple app store... maybe even more. I wouldn't expect the same of the windows phone app store because it has a fraction of the apps.

My point is that the play store doesn't have many of the apps that I use. I don't care if I should expect it or not. They're not there.

What apps are/have you been looking for that arnt available in the google play store? I'm sure you could receive help here.

 

[otismotive77]

try snapseed, a great photo app with tons of features , i dont know about now but when i got it it was free. you should check it out, it would really help you out.

 

[Googlerola]

I was talking about the apps. Not sure why you keep twisting my words. I don't have to worry about the actual apps stealing my address book without my knowledge or adding random crap to my phone. Keep trying to argue with me about stuff that I'm not even talking about...

Before you download an app, the play store tells you all the permissions the app will need.

 

[Brittany246]

Which apps in particular are you worried about stealing your data? It's all well and good for you to not want to use Android based on a previous experience...but to say it's because you're scared of malware or apps stealing your information...come on.

Google is just as diligent as Apple in removing dodgy apps. The only time people get malware through apps is if they download them from somewhere other than the play store.

If you prefer ios, that's all you have to say. No need to make outrageous claims to support your obviously one sided view.

I'm not just talking about malware. There so many spam apps in the play store compared to the apple app store. I don't like the play store because of it. I always have to look read through the reviews of every app I download to make sure I won't be spammed with BS. I don't even know which apps are putting random pictures in my gallery. I don't have to worry about that BS when I download stuff from the apple app store.

I'll say whatever I please. Nothing about what I'm saying is outrageous. I'm not just making things up to make it seem like apple is better. What I've said is what I've experienced with my Nexus 7. If you don't like what I'm saying about my experiences with android, then feel free to not read it.

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Before you download an app, the play store tells you all the permissions the app will need.

I know that.

 

[SpaceKitty]

I don't have to worry about that BS when I download stuff from the apple app store.

This is a problem with a few apps that I have on my Nexus 4. Extreme Call Blocker has placed all of it's images in my Gallery. I can't delete them because then the app would not have any images in it.

TomTom was another one that did this when I first bought it. It was fixed a week later with an update.

There are ways to fix this by placing a file in the apps directory but I never bothered with it.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

IThere are so many apps that the google play store doesn't have... or you'll have to wait months to find the android version of an app.

That's your problem right there.

Imagine you switched to a Mac from a Windows PC and rather than try and find native Mac apps, you insisted that you would only use Mac ports of Windows apps. How do you think that would turn out for you? Why do you think the situation is any different with iOS vs. Android?

My suggestion is to determine what class/category of app you require and look for an Android equivalent rather than a straight port. Ports are often lazily done and you might be very surprised with the quality of some native Android apps.

If you list what apps you require here, I think we would be able to help you find high quality Android alternatives.

 

[Brittany246]

That's your problem right there.

Imagine you switched to a Mac from a Windows PC and rather than try and find native Mac apps, you insisted that you would only use Mac ports of Windows apps. How do you think that would turn out for you? Why do you think the situation is any different with iOS vs. Android?

My suggestion is to determine what class/category of app you require and look for an Android equivalent rather than a straight port. Ports are often lazily done and you might be very surprised with the quality of some native Android apps.

If you list what apps you require here, I think we would be able to help you find high quality Android alternatives.

lol... That's not even the same thing. I'm not looking for help in finding good android apps, and many apps don't have a suitable alternative. It's easy to find alternatives for productivity apps but not for things like mobile games.

 

[mib1800]

lol... That's not even the same thing. I'm not looking for help in finding good android apps, and many apps don't have a suitable alternative. It's easy to find alternatives for productivity apps but not for things like mobile games.

Instead of being so negative about Android, why don't you list some of the apps you wanted and maybe someone can help you with it.

if you are into gaming, then iOS have more. on the flip side, Android have many apps (productivity/utility/system/UI) that you will never find in iOS.

 

[Brittany246]

Instead of being so negative about Android, why don't you list some of the apps you wanted and maybe someone can help you with it.

if you are into gaming, then iOS have more. on the flip side, Android have many apps (productivity/utility/system/UI) that you will never find in iOS.

Did you even read my comment? I don't want help finding apps on android. I'm sorry if I'm being too negative for you. I can't say anything negative about Android because apparently that's a crime. I'm not going to sugar coat the way I feel. If I say I don't like something about Android people go insane and tell me I'm doing something wrong. If I say I don't like something about iOS people accept my opinion and move on.

I don't like the google play store. Why the hell are people arguing with me about MY opinion? wtf? Stop trying to convince me that it's not crappy.

 

[SpaceKitty]

That's your problem right there.

Imagine you switched to a Mac from a Windows PC and rather than try and find native Mac apps, you insisted that you would only use Mac ports of Windows apps. How do you think that would turn out for you? Why do you think the situation is any different with iOS vs. Android?

My suggestion is to determine what class/category of app you require and look for an Android equivalent rather than a straight port. Ports are often lazily done and you might be very surprised with the quality of some native Android apps.

If you list what apps you require here, I think we would be able to help you find high quality Android alternatives.

For me, the problem isn't finding alternatives as the main apps I use are available on both platforms. It's just that the iOS versions have apps made for the iPad whereas on Android, no tablet apps exist and are simply scaled up phone apps.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Did you even read my comment? I don't want help finding apps on android. I'm sorry if I'm being too negative for you. I can't say anything negative about Android because apparently that's a crime. I'm not going to sugar coat the way I feel. If I say I don't like something about Android people go insane and tell me I'm doing something wrong. If I say I don't like something about iOS people accept my opinion and move on.

I don't like the google play store. Why the hell are people arguing with me about MY opinion? wtf? Stop trying to convince me that it's not crappy.

Yep! Shame on us. Here we were actually trying to help - I guess we didn't realise all you actually wanted to do was whine.

 

[daveathall]

My point is that the play store doesn't have many of the apps that I use. I don't care if I should expect it or not. They're not there.

What apps are you missing?

 

[Jessica Lares]

Yep! Shame on us. Here we were actually trying to help - I guess we didn't realise all you actually wanted to do was whine.

This. I don't know why people even bother making a thread or even posting if they don't want to hear other's opinions.

All of us here are Mac users, obviously we know quality. And obviously we all know that there is issues on Android, but some of you blow everything out of proportion. If you don't like it, get a refund, and forget about it. How simple is that? Just because such and such happened on this one device, doesn't mean it happens on everything else. Even one point of a firmware update makes a huge difference. I should know that, considering my Kindle Fire had like 10 updates where the sound driver was half baked at the beginning, and 100% working at its EOL.