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If the other rumor about a "glowing" Apple icon is correct, maybe the flash IS the Apple icon? :cool:l

I still can't get over how strange that would look to be walking around with a glowing Apple logo in your hands. Let alone it being a flash, which I have no idea how'd that work.
 
Soft Touch Finish Please

Really hoping this new case material incorporates what Incase did with their Sliders (any owners can attest this is easily the best iPhone 3G case on the market). Their soft touch finish allows for non-stick pocket access while remaining a solid grip in-hand, neither scratches nor mars... Seriously, ideal material for a handheld.

http://bit.ly/FZC4n
 
No, they remained on the same contract as their original iPhone. There was no extension.

No, they had to sign up for a new two year contract and the data plan was more expensive and texts were not included. It wasn't the same plan as the original iPhone.
 
Really hoping this new case material incorporates what Incase did with their Sliders (any owners can attest this is easily the best iPhone 3G case on the market). Their soft touch finish allows for non-stick pocket access while remaining a solid grip in-hand, neither scratches nor mars... Seriously, ideal material for a handheld.

http://bit.ly/FZC4n

But they do scratch, gouge, and lose their matte finish. Matte finishes are hard to keep intact because it's just a spray coating onto a hard plastic. It will rub off. Nearly all Incase sliders have had that issue with a matte finish.
 
No, they had to sign up for a new two year contract and the data plan was more expensive and texts were not included. It wasn't the same plan as the original iPhone.

They did not have to extend their contract. If they had the original iPhone they could upgrade to an iPhone 3G without extending their contract. It doesn't matter about the different plan rates - at&t did this to keep the iPhone users on their network and ensure sales of the iPhone 3G.

I'm finding multiple variances on this. But I remember it being that you could upgrade without extending your contract.
 
If I'm reading iLounge correctly, it says matte black finish for Chinese market only.

Let's hope not!
 
I would rather have wireless N instead of faster 3G.

really? if you have wifi you are most likely near a computer of some sorts... why not just go on it - if you are somewhere else the extra 2 seconds of loading time on wifi isn't that bad.
 
No Flash Ever

I guess the camera still isn't getting a flash, which actually helps in some instances. Of course for real shots, use a real camera.

I don't think there will ever be flash in iPhone itself. But other manufacturers will be making add on flash device that could be plugged into iPhone when required. In last keynote they were showing several devices that could communicate with iPhone/iPod Touch using 3.0 software.
 
ehh it's not enough of an update. and faster internet isn't enough either.

I don't think this phone will have that many updates. i'm not into i like my current 3G a lot. I'm not worried about the new one that's going to come out. I can wait until next years iphone when I can sign up for a new contract...
 
They did not have to extend their contract. If they had the original iPhone they could upgrade to an iPhone 3G without extending their contract. It doesn't matter about the different plan rates - at&t did this to keep the iPhone users on their network and ensure sales of the iPhone 3G.

I'm finding multiple variances on this. But I remember it being that you could upgrade without extending your contract.

You are partially right, you didn't have to extend your contract, you just got a new one. As the terms for having a 1,2 iPhone is dfferent than having the 1,1 iPhone.
 
They did not have to extend their contract. If they had the original iPhone they could upgrade to an iPhone 3G without extending their contract. It doesn't matter about the different plan rates - at&t did this to keep the iPhone users on their network and ensure sales of the iPhone 3G.

They signed a new two year contract when they upgraded to the 3G iPhone. Every time you make a change to your account with any carrier: new phone, changing rate plan, adding features - you sign a new contract starting on the day the changes take effect.

If you don't believe me, log into your (insert carrier here) account, change a feature or add something and before you submit the changes to take affect read the fine print. I one worked for AT&T and all carriers do this.

On another note Warbrain, you're wrong about AT&T's network not being able to handle video calls. Take your same 3G iPhone, tether to your Mac and feel free to tell me how well iChat works for you. AT&T is simply not willing to let a competing service on their network unless they're going to make money off it.
 
Fewer dropped calls please (on AT&T)

This is not an Iphone problem. It is an ATT 3G implementation problem. Some of the Cells. (Usually first installed, most important cells), are NOT on the same packet network as other cells. As you transition in and out of these cells you get consistent dropped calls.

In Seattle, there is one of these towers at the end of the 520 bridge. This affects nearly everyone who commutes with one of these phones in the Seattle area. Dropping their calls all the time. You will find these problems in cities, and often in tech centric cities. My phone is on edge all the time to avoid these problems.

However, if I go out of the city, 3G works very well and I can go a hundred miles without losing my Pandora connection. But in-city, nope. Att sucks, and not too surprisingly, Ernestine the operator continues to be right, we are the phone company, we don't have to care.
 
They signed a new two year contract when they upgraded to the 3G iPhone. Every time you make a change to your account with any carrier: new phone, changing rate plan, adding features - you sign a new contract starting on the day the changes take effect.

If you don't believe me, log into your (insert carrier here) account, change a feature or add something and before you submit the changes to take affect read the fine print. I one worked for AT&T and all carriers do this.

On another note Warbrain, you're wrong about AT&T's network not being able to handle video calls. Take your same 3G iPhone, tether to your Mac and feel free to tell me how well iChat works for you. AT&T is simply not willing to let a competing service on their network unless they're going to make money off it.

This was a special case that at&t created. I know how contracts with providers work. Just because you worked for at&t doesn't mean much to me. And no, your contract does not change when you add/remove features. :rolleyes:

So you're telling me to tether my iPhone when it obviously not allowed on the at&t network right now and you worked for at&t? Guess you don't know that much.

You are partially right, you didn't have to extend your contract, you just got a new one. As the terms for having a 1,2 iPhone is dfferent than having the 1,1 iPhone.

It essentially is a one-year contract that original iPhone users got to sign to get a two-year contract subsidy. Gotcha.
 
They did not have to extend their contract. If they had the original iPhone they could upgrade to an iPhone 3G without extending their contract. It doesn't matter about the different plan rates - at&t did this to keep the iPhone users on their network and ensure sales of the iPhone 3G.

I'm finding multiple variances on this. But I remember it being that you could upgrade without extending your contract.

According to Giz and everyone I know who upgraded they had to sign an new two year contract and pay the higher data fee.

http://gizmodo.com/5014748/confirme...phone-after-may-27th-you-get-a-3g-iphone-free
 
The announcement should be on June 8th at WWDC. 10a.m.

I kinda like the matte black defiantly won't be getting the white. I've heard that they show cracks much easier. Still kinda wish they'd go back to a metal back of some sort even though the reception is not as good.

Has anyone heard if they are going to be using a N based Wifi chip. I really want to turn my Linksys Dual band router in to just N instead of one radio for N and one for my iPhone. . .

thanks thanks :)
 
I really like the glossy material of my iPhone a lot. Stones have scratched the chrome slightly, but the plastic (and glass) has remained scratch free despite some careless treatment. (It did get dull on one corner where all the weight rests in my pocket, but you wouldn't notice without looking for it--and any material but metal would do that.)

Textured anodized aluminum like the original iPhone would be my ideal--my aluminum laptops look like new forever--but if that hinders the antenna, I like the plastic I have now.

Matte would be harder to slip out of your hand I guess... and your pocket too?

No big deal either way.
 
No, they remained on the same contract as their original iPhone. There was no extension.



The rumor going around now is at at&t crippled SlingPlayer because they may have their own service for u-verse coming out down the road. Silly because it screws everyone else, but that's what you get for getting in bed with the telcos. And I need to ask this - how many people would actually use video calls on their cell phone?

We've never been the leader in cellular technology. Hell, we're still using TDMA in some parts of the country and that network is ancient.


...and O2 in here is happy because they won't have to increase bandwidth usage and all blame is directed towards AT&T; yea we got that message. Regarding video calls I know few people who use video calls over Three:

http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Call_chat/Call_chat_category?content_aid=1220455603047

;believe me its a nice feature.
 
I am almost 100% certain that the logo on the back will not be just a glowing logo, but it will be used for the camera flash.

I really hope your certainty becomes reality. There is a difference, you know? :p A flash like this would be very Apple and quite ingenious.

:apple:
 
matte can get some pretty nasty scuffs as well. especially matte rubber. G3 powerbook anyone? rugged just doesn't belong in the same sentence as apple.
 
We would expect that U.S. AT&T customers would be given the 3.5G model which is likely to support the new 7.2 Mbps data network being deployed by AT&T.
How often do we have to repeat that the current iPhone is capable of using the 7.2 Mbps standard as confirmed by people who verified this in the UK for example?
If you classify HSDPA (which includes 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.4 Mbps download speeds) as 3.5G, then the current iPhone already supports most of 3.5G. There is also Evolved High-Speed Packet Access (also known as: HSPA Evolution, HSPA+) which increases do download speeds further up to 42 Mbps and more importantly upload speeds from 384 kbps up to 5.8 Mbit/s, this could be called 3.75G and is not implemented in the iPhone yet.
 
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