Seeing how there are phones on the market that do just about all that now I don't see how that is asking that they want their phone to do a lot.
Maybe I'm missing something that seems like they are asking too much.
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Seeing how there are phones on the market that do just about all that now I don't see how that is asking that they want their phone to do a lot.
Maybe I'm missing something that seems like they are asking too much.
1. Louder ring volumes !!
2. Option to have reminder chimes for Text messages that have not been acknowledged every 5 minutes or so. Especially when I miss half of them because of #1.
2. Option to have reminder chimes for Text messages that have not been acknowledged every 5 minutes or so. Especially when I miss half of them because of #1.
Personally, I'm hoping they revamp the whole calendar app and add in multiple calendar support, color coding, a week view, and some way to have custom repeating events. So if I have an event that occurs on Tuesdays and Thursdays every week, I don't have to input it twice, once for each day.
Secondly, I would love to have a basic To Do List. Preferably, it'll integrate with the calendar app and sync back to my computer.
Hopefully some of this will be update on the iPhone to coincide with the Leopard release.
Also, I would love for there to be a way to launch the YouTube app for links in the browser or an email. Then (at least for me) Flash support would be less significant.
Secondly, I would love to have a basic To Do List. Preferably, it'll integrate with the calendar app and sync back to my computer.
Hopefully some of this will be update on the iPhone to coincide with the Leopard release.
Also, I would love for there to be a way to launch the YouTube app for links in the browser or an email. Then (at least for me) Flash support would be less significant.
multiple calendar support in iCal
customizable volumes of rings, alerts, keyboard clicks etc.
flash
finder app
ability to store files like a flash disk
customizable volumes of rings, alerts, keyboard clicks etc.
flash
finder app
ability to store files like a flash disk
An eBook Reader!!!!
That's the only thing I care about at all. And it's really an extremely easy thing to do. It's the one reason I'm not doing the 1.1.1 upgrade yet, it's the one thing that the iPhone really needs, and it's only available through the third-party app.
MMS? No interest whatsoever.
That's the only thing I care about at all. And it's really an extremely easy thing to do. It's the one reason I'm not doing the 1.1.1 upgrade yet, it's the one thing that the iPhone really needs, and it's only available through the third-party app.
MMS? No interest whatsoever.
As much as I'd wish there would be a lot of different things on the iPhone, I'd really like Flash, Java etc. There's only one thing that I think is seriously missing. It is absolutely pathetic that a phone in this day and age (any phone above the cost of about £50) can be sold without MMS support. Its hardly the most complicated piece of technology now is it?!!
I'd like to be able to reassign the volume button to either go forward or back instead of volume when listening to the iPod, then I could use something other that the included buds with the button or having to bring it out of my pocket when I want to advance to the next track. That and be able to put normal (non-music) ringtones on it.
iNikon...
You must be kidding, right? Part of the reason that I even ever noticed the items on my list, is because my LAST PHONE had those features. To claim that only a computer has these functions is not saying much about your tech experience.
Now, I will be the first to admit that the iPhone is one of the greatest technological advances in the last 10 years. I would also admit that I would NEVER trade my iPhone back for my old TREO. I love my iPhone, and it has so many great things going for it. I love to show people all of the features (still) and I am constantly impressed by it.
I am simply providing a list of improvements, that would make me EVEN HAPPIER with the iPhone. Some of them seem almost silly that the iPhone doesn't support (MMS) (Exchange support), and it just makes me wonder why these features aren't here yet, and when they will be.
File System (Finder)
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Better Exchange Support
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Better Outlook Support
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Copy/Paste Functionality
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Flash Support
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Voice Dialing
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Ability to send more than one photo at a time via e-mail.
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Ability to delete more than one e-mail at a time.
My 3 year od TREO can do this.
MMS Messaging
My 3 year old TREO can do this.
Additional volume increase
My 3 year old TREO has much better ring volume.
iCal Custom Calendar Coloration
My 3 year old TREO lets you separate calendars.
E-mails to download BEFORE you want to read them.
I don't know of my 3 year old TREO does this or not... but I know that other cell phones (blackberrys) do.
Ability to view shared files on wifi network.
I don't know about this one either. Just seems like a simple thing to add... and it would be amazingly useful for me, personally.
Ability to make own ringtones in Garageband and import into iTunes.
My 3 year old TREO does this. Not with garageband, but you get the idea.
Many of the smartphone features that some users have been desiring, such as Exchange support or document editing functions, are appealing to only a small subset of the demographic that Apple is targeting with the iPhone. The iPhone isn't meant to be a laptop replacement and it's not targeted at road warriors or for business use. It's less of a laptop/phone convergence device and more of a media center/phone hybrid. And it makes sense for Apple to highlight this distinction as that is where it's revenue is generated from. Unlike Microsoft which in Windows Mobile is looking to build a mobile MS Office companion, Apple is looking to position the iPhone as a mobile iTunes companion.
I also think that advanced enhancements to the iPhone will not come in the context of making it behave more like traditional smartphones or PDA's but rather as a showcase for Leopard. For instance, for file viewing would Apple decide to include a Finder/file manager option or would it instead choose to incorporate Leopards Quickview? If the latter were chosen it would continue Apple's strategy of using some of its products to create a "halo" effect for its computers.
There is also the continuing debate of whether the iPhone should be an open or closed device. Having used a Windows Mobile device I'm not entirely dismissive of Apple's worries about uncontrolled 3rd party apps. I'm hoping that Apple will release some sort of protected area where 3rd party applications can be run as a first step toward a compromise in this controversy. The equivalent of Dashboard on the iPhone would be a good start.
It's also interesting to speculate what Apple's stance is towards some obvious features that are missing from the iPhone. Why did Apple leave out MMS support? I wonder if MMS is really a feature that is frequently used by a lot of users. It's possible that Apple is hoping to either leapfrog this feature with other services, such as its gallery feature, or believes that MMS is something most users don't miss. Or maybe it just didn't have the time to include MMS support with the first release. Similarly, the absence of a voice recorder might be curious were it any company other than Apple. It seems so obvious and so simple that such a feature should exist. Yet Apple has avoided including a recorder into its iPods.
In any case, I think the priority for Apple should be in figuring out some sort of compromise for 3rd party applications. Either that or Apple should start releasing applications via iTunes to address this pent up desire for customization. I think this is important for Apple two reasons. First, it will increase the function of the device making it more appealing to more users. If Apple is hesitant to develop an application tailored for a subset of users why not let the develop community respond to this need? And secondly, this would help Apple address the controversy that has ensued, even if it correctly warned users of the consequences of hacking their phones.
I also think that advanced enhancements to the iPhone will not come in the context of making it behave more like traditional smartphones or PDA's but rather as a showcase for Leopard. For instance, for file viewing would Apple decide to include a Finder/file manager option or would it instead choose to incorporate Leopards Quickview? If the latter were chosen it would continue Apple's strategy of using some of its products to create a "halo" effect for its computers.
There is also the continuing debate of whether the iPhone should be an open or closed device. Having used a Windows Mobile device I'm not entirely dismissive of Apple's worries about uncontrolled 3rd party apps. I'm hoping that Apple will release some sort of protected area where 3rd party applications can be run as a first step toward a compromise in this controversy. The equivalent of Dashboard on the iPhone would be a good start.
It's also interesting to speculate what Apple's stance is towards some obvious features that are missing from the iPhone. Why did Apple leave out MMS support? I wonder if MMS is really a feature that is frequently used by a lot of users. It's possible that Apple is hoping to either leapfrog this feature with other services, such as its gallery feature, or believes that MMS is something most users don't miss. Or maybe it just didn't have the time to include MMS support with the first release. Similarly, the absence of a voice recorder might be curious were it any company other than Apple. It seems so obvious and so simple that such a feature should exist. Yet Apple has avoided including a recorder into its iPods.
In any case, I think the priority for Apple should be in figuring out some sort of compromise for 3rd party applications. Either that or Apple should start releasing applications via iTunes to address this pent up desire for customization. I think this is important for Apple two reasons. First, it will increase the function of the device making it more appealing to more users. If Apple is hesitant to develop an application tailored for a subset of users why not let the develop community respond to this need? And secondly, this would help Apple address the controversy that has ensued, even if it correctly warned users of the consequences of hacking their phones.
I think the lack of MMS support is simply institutional myopia. Emailing photos from the iPhone to other iPhones is very easy and works well. I can imagine people at Apple thinking "why would we want to make it easier for the iPhone to work with other phones? email works perfectly for iPhone."
As far as a compromise with 3rd party applications, I don't see it coming...ever. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it happening.
How about an iTunes EDGE Music Store?
Using the internet the way the iPhone does uses a lot of data, so why not just disable Safari while downloading a song, and only allow one at a time?
I don't think it would use that much data to make edge crash. But, then again, I don't really know.
Using the internet the way the iPhone does uses a lot of data, so why not just disable Safari while downloading a song, and only allow one at a time?
I don't think it would use that much data to make edge crash. But, then again, I don't really know.
I think iTunes over EDGE would require a deal with AT&T and I'm going to guess that the last thing Apple wants is any telco having any cut of iTunes purchases in any way at all.
Good point. I live in the Poconos and it's not like there is a wifi blanket across the whole place. So having wifi itunes really doesn't do anything for me. I guess it's different in cities. Can you just go down the street in NYC and have wifi the whole time and not have to keep signing onto different networks?
So you believe that the only applications that Apple will ever release will be those that it has developed itself? I think Apple has a lot of wiggle room and has strategically chosen the most extreme position possible, knowing full well that once the genie is out of the bottle it will be tough to get it back in.
I do think that Apple will make what appears to be a compromise and probably has already planned how to do so. It has taken a similar path with games on the iPod. Apple wants to be in a position where it strongly controls both development and delivery. I can easily envision Apple announcing, with great magnanimity, a partnership with EA or some other developer to give users what they have been demanding, to equally great applause from both users and a few select developers alike. Apple can open the phone to 3rd party development while still keeping it a closed platform by keeping control over who it will allow to develop for it.
In any case, the arms race it is in with hackers at the moment isn't making anyone happy. Clearly there is a desire by a lot of users to add applications to the phone, and given the devices power and potential it shouldn't be surprising that this is so. And clearly, this situation isn't good for Apple. If Apple partners with developers that it controls to develop apps for the phone then it can diminish the demand for hacked applications. I can only speculate, but I imagine that there are a lot of users who would pay $4.99 for Tetris through iTunes rather than risk installing the hacked version and bricking their phone.
From a users perspective, I think the ideal solution would be to implement a version of Dashboard on the iPhone, but while I hopeful that Apple would do this in order to showcase OS X I'm not expecting this as a logical step to address this issue.
I think that 3rd party apps will come but I think that that they will be sold through iTunes after a very careful vetting process. And I think that's a pretty smart strategy. I have used Treos and Window Mobile phones and any time I installed a third party app, even if I bought it, it messed with core functions that compromised the usage of the handheld. Apple has to be careful because its their product and their reputation on the line. If i hand my phone to a friend and that phone crashes because of a buggy third party app, its not going to matter that it wasn't Apple's fault, all the friend is going to see is a crashed $400 phone. Not a good look for Apple. I also think that we will see third party apps when iPhone 2.0 is available. Certainly not before Leopard is released.
Yes, it's just a guess based on my opinion of their business model -- nothing more than speculation on my part.
The ipod is a very different platform than the iPhone for obvious reasons. The iPhone is all about advancing Apple products for Apple users. Wifi Itunes is a perfect example of this. No one knows how to leverage a platform like Apple.
I don't think demand for 3rd party applications is a concern at all to Apple. There is a mindset that what people want is good and should be a co-goal for Apple. This is simply not how it works. Apple will roll out what is good for Apple and people will buy it because most likely whatever shortcomings it has, it will still be pretty darned cool and fun to use. This is exactly why people still bought tons of iPhones to date with no MMS or iChat. Much lesser phones can do MMS or AIM/yahoo, etc. People knew this and bought the iPhone anyway. If a lack of 3rd party apps didn't stop them in the past, why would it stop them now?
Quite simply, the way to address the issue is to take the iPhone or leave it. If you need a third party application, the iPhone is not the phone for you.
Well I just updated to 1.1.1. First I think the new calculator icon is way out of place. Liked the old one fine. Second, it did not increase speaker volume at all.
BTW, to the OP, it sounds like you would be better off with a PocketPC. This is an iPhone, NOT a Windows/Palm device!
BTW, to the OP, it sounds like you would be better off with a PocketPC. This is an iPhone, NOT a Windows/Palm device!
That's actually not Apple's current position at all. Apple's current position is that if you need to either develop or use a third party application a user should turn to Safari and Web 2.0 apps. This is clearly not an adequate approach for users or developers, but strategically it makes sense that Apple highlighted this as a first effort to briefly appease developers and users alike, both of which are enormously important to Apple, as well as draw attention to Safari. Technologically, running a Web 2.0 app via Safari or a Widget via Dashboard aren't very different with the principle difference being that Widgets can run offline.
It's certainly true that Apple will do what it needs to do for its own self interests, which is largely why it can be argued that 3rd party applications are of importance to Apple and will likely end up on the iPhone. If these applications weren't important to Apple it would have taken the Windows Mobile route and ignored efforts to develop for the iPhone. It's in Apple's self interests to cultivate its developer community. It's in its self interests to address the needs of customers. And it's in its self interests to quell the negative press it has been receiving due to its present strategy. Most customers probably aren't informed enough to distinguish the various issues that are at the heart of the controversies Apple has recently been embroiled in and Apple hasn't done a good enough job to clarify its position. A customer who hears on the news or by word of mouth that iPhones are getting bricked due to an update may think that it is a problem with all iPhones, not just those that were hacked in some way. Whether true or not, it's not good for Apple to permit this preconception to exist.
Nor are the iPod or iPhone unrelated or completely different products. As has been demonstrated by the iPod Touch, the iPod line is slowly transitioning to the same platform. It will be difficult and uncharacteristic for Apple to retain parallel product lines over the long term where the iPod classic has the ability to download applications onto it and the presumably higher end iPod touch, along with Apple's best iPod ever the iPhone, can't. Apple has been fairly good at applying the lessons that were learned during the Sculley era and avoided having an overly convoluted product line up. It's unintuitive to most users that lower end iPods have access to new content that higher end models don't. And considering that Apple has highlighted its partnership with EA for developing iPod games, it's not likely at least in the short term that Apple intends to curtail this kind of controlled development.
Moreover, it's extremely important for Apple to cultivate the partnerships it has made with developers and a good way to reward those partners is by giving them exclusive rights to develop on the iPod and the iPhone.
And ultimately, betting that Apple will open the iPhone and iTouch to some form of development is actually a really pragmatic wager. It's a lot like the Intel rumors which, regardless of any underlying facts, were likely to be confirmed sooner or later. Apple can't do anything to make the iPhone or iTouch into platforms that are any more closed than they already are. But it can open them up, incrementally. Sooner or later, regardless of any other facts or pressures other than time and statistical probability, it will probably do so. When that time comes Apple has placed itself in a position that it can do this on its own terms and with the greatest amount of control.
I think that for the people who care about 3rd party apps, you'll find that web apps are not a satisfactory compromise. For them, web apps are simply not the solution they want or you wouldn't have seen such an outcry with the 1.1.1 patch.
I think Apple's position is pretty clear. They've done everything they can to exclude 3rd party applications, or to phrase it in terms of your argument, limit them to the web and keep them off the phone itself. If they were somewhat neutral to 3rd party apps on the phone, I'm sure they could have found a way to keep them. They didn't. And actions speak far more loudly than any press releases or advertising could.
It was my understanding the the iPod touch was locked down far harder than the iPhone was at release and that the iPhone caught up with the 1.1.1 patch.
I think you're overstating the significance of EA. I've owned several iPods over the years and have never heard of EA's iPod games. Not disputing their existence, just explaining that when people think of an iPod, EA games are not something they associate with it.
And allowing that to happen at launch would be the time to do so if it were a part of their business model.
The iPhone was launched with nothing but the web. Again, if allowing 3rd parties in was at all important to their business model, the time to do that was prior to launch.
The fact that it's now October and we're on the verge of a European launch and it's more locked down than ever gives you an excellent window into what their goals are.
There is one caveat I will admit that I don't believe you touched on.
If you are going to leverage your platform and sell exclusive developing rights to some company for widgets or whatever, locking down the iPhone to show potential developers that their platform will be secure and closed to competition is a heck of a bargaining chip.
The beginning of this thread listed quite a few applications people want to use on the iPhone/iTouch, quite a few of which are already available if you crack your itouch and install them.
Visit http://www.modmyiphone.com/nativeapps/the-list/
to see a list of apps, MobileFinder, MobilePreview and MobileText might be of interest to many of you. I am yet to install them though, but will be doing so soon.
Visit http://www.modmyiphone.com/nativeapps/the-list/
to see a list of apps, MobileFinder, MobilePreview and MobileText might be of interest to many of you. I am yet to install them though, but will be doing so soon.