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The Face

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It's more than pricing. It's the value of what you're getting. It'd be different if it was low priced with low specs, but it's low priced with a lot of future-proof specs. Then you throw in the "small" .1 Jelly Bean update into the mix...

Once again, striking the balance between affordability, good hardware, and a great software update.
Exactly, the announcement of the Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 was a massive "We can offer better for less" to Apple from Google. Its' s not as if the Nexus 10 is a cheap chinese tablet witb rubbish hardware, it's a genuine premium product offering top of the range hardware for less which triumphs over Apples "top of the range iPad"

Google is just proving that Apple are charging more for their products just because they can. They don't care about its customer's, they just want your money.
 

F123D

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I can almost live with 16gb but no LTE hurts since I've had a taste of LTE in my area (avg 25-35, up to 50mbps) but that price is really amazing.

Note II or Nexus 4...
 

THE JUICEMAN

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It's coming to TMO on 11/14 for $199. Hmm. But for $100 more why not just buy it full price? :rolleyes:

Biggest downfall. No LTE.

From Google, they decided not to because of money. It's a budget phone. If it had LTE, it wouldn't of been $299/$349.

Money was a factor but they said battery life also played a big factor because since LTE in not as wide spread as the older technologies then you have to accommodate for those too. For example in the Verizon Galaxy Nexus you have to have an LTE radio and a CDMA radio. Also, most of the world is not covered in LTE so they would have to make too many variations of the phones.

Another big reason is that they cannot control the software updates on those carrier locked devices.
 

hallaisen

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First time android buyer here. How do I buy this thing? I'm in Australia but have people in the US I could have it shipped it to if its released there first.
 

MacManTexas56

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Exactly, the announcement of the Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 was a massive "We can offer better for less" to Apple from Google. Its' s not as if the Nexus 10 is a cheap chinese tablet witb rubbish hardware, it's a genuine premium product offering top of the range hardware for less which triumphs over Apples "top of the range iPad"

Google is just proving that Apple are charging more for their products just because they can. They don't care about its customer's, they just want your money.
even if that's the case...have you dealt with Google Customer Service? it's a complete joke!
 

apollo1444

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if Apple made the iPhone 5 LTE-less people would not stop bashing them left and right

for what I've read this device is LTE-less nobody is talking about this... it's cool to hate on Apple I guess
 

MacManTexas56

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if Apple made the iPhone 5 LTE-less people would not stop bashing them left and right

for what I've read this device is LTE-less nobody is talking about this... it's cool to hate on Apple I guess

people bash, but they still buy the crap out of it haha
 

onthecouchagain

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The trade off for LTE is so worth it. It's not like HSPA+ is a slouch. It'll be the difference of a couple of seconds when loading pages. In exchange? 15+ hour talk time, 330 hour standby time. I'll take that any day.
 
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aeboi

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Great price, if it weren't for the non-removable battery and lack of SD card slot, I'd be in on this.
 

waloshin

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if Apple made the iPhone 5 LTE-less people would not stop bashing them left and right

for what I've read this device is LTE-less nobody is talking about this... it's cool to hate on Apple I guess

The iPhone 5 is also twice as much.
 

onthecouchagain

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even if that's the case...have you dealt with Google Customer Service? it's a complete joke!

Apple's customer service is the one area no one will beat Apple in, probably ever.

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if Apple made the iPhone 5 LTE-less people would not stop bashing them left and right

for what I've read this device is LTE-less nobody is talking about this... it's cool to hate on Apple I guess


An unlocked iPhone is also LTE-less, as are a lot of unlocked devices. But none of them offer these sorts of specs for this sort of price.

$649 for unlocked iPhone versus $349 for unlocked Nexus 4. Both LTE-less.

The carrier versions of the Nexus 4 will have LTE. Wait for those. The iPhone 4S carrier versions didn't offer LTE.
 

MacManTexas56

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Apple's customer service is the one area no one will beat Apple in, probably ever.

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An unlocked iPhone is also LTE-less, as are a lot of unlocked devices. But none of them offer these sorts of specs for this sort of price.

$649 for unlocked iPhone versus $349 for unlocked Nexus 4. Both LTE-less.

The carrier versions of the Nexus 4 will have LTE. Wait for those. The iPhone 4S carrier versions didn't offer LTE.
yeah, i know that. Have you dealt with Google Customer Service though? I returned a Nexus phone and it took them 1 month of me hassling them and doing a chargeback on my CC to get my money back. It's not like it's just not bad, it's horrible!
 

The Face

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if Apple made the iPhone 5 LTE-less people would not stop bashing them left and right

for what I've read this device is LTE-less nobody is talking about this... it's cool to hate on Apple I guess
Fail.

The iPhone 4S has no LTE and still costs more than the Nexus 4 sim free.
 

whoknows87

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Just listed my iPhone 5 on eBay will order the nexus, I don't have LTE anyways, this will be my first Android device, looks really attractive, cant'e beat the price at all , didn't think I will say this but will be making the switch:confused:
 

apollo1444

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Fail.

The iPhone 4S has no LTE and still costs more than the Nexus 4 sim free.

what is the fail here? isn't the nexus 4 and evolution of the previous model? if so it fails miserably by not getting LTE in the first place, that is the fail

who cares what the iPhone 4S costs the original point I made was that the new nexus doesn't look like a better product than the one it replaces and how fanboys and press react to it if Apple had released an iPhone5 without LTE probably everyone and their grandma would bash em hell and back,

google is the nice guy here the untouchable hahaha i tell ya basement dwellers
 

Dave.UK

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what is the fail here? isn't the nexus 4 and evolution of the previous model? if so it fails miserably by not getting LTE in the first place, that is the fail

who cares what the iPhone 4S costs the original point I made was that the new nexus doesn't look like a better product than the one it replaces and how fanboys and press react to it if Apple had released an iPhone5 without LTE probably everyone and their grandma would bash em hell and back,

google is the nice guy here the untouchable hahaha i tell ya basement dwellers

Did you not read the post 5 above answering this very question? I'll copy it below for you.

An unlocked iPhone is also LTE-less, as are a lot of unlocked devices. But none of them offer these sorts of specs for this sort of price.

$649 for unlocked iPhone versus $349 for unlocked Nexus 4. Both LTE-less.

The carrier versions of the Nexus 4 will have LTE. Wait for those. The iPhone 4S carrier versions didn't offer LTE.
 

apollo1444

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someone said earlier kick ass ZPECSS WOW ZO TECHY OMG


specs don't mean crap, we saw how the iPhone 5 toasted the super OMG LEIK SUPER DUPPER TECHY GS3 specs,

why do people keep bringing up specs? specs don't mean anything at all !!

btw their tablet looked like a spaceship controller from a mid 90s scifi tv series hahahha
 

tech4all

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what is the fail here? isn't the nexus 4 and evolution of the previous model? if so it fails miserably by not getting LTE in the first place, that is the fail

who cares what the iPhone 4S costs the original point I made was that the new nexus doesn't look like a better product than the one it replaces and how fanboys and press react to it if Apple had released an iPhone5 without LTE probably everyone and their grandma would bash em hell and back,

Here is the reason why it doesn't have LTE (from a previous post in this thread):

From Google regarding LTE

The reason Google is skipping LTE is because it is offering the Nexus 4 as an unlocked, off contract phone for $300 around the world. LTE is not a uniform standard.

Not saying that's a good reason; they could have made a 'U.S. version' of the phone so it could have LTE instead of just having a one size fits all deal.

But in Google's defense, they have kept the price the same as the previous Nexus. But even then, I think they should have made a U.S. version or w/e so it could have LTE. I mean the HSPA+ speeds are good for me, but LTE really should have been a feature.

google is the nice guy here the untouchable hahaha i tell ya basement dwellers

Umm it's the same thing with iOS fanboys. They think Apple could no wrong. FanDroids think Google could do no wrong. Makes no difference.
 

apollo1444

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Did you not read the post 5 above answering this very question? I'll copy it below for you.

an unlocked iPhone is also LTE less?

not true the 4S LTE-LESS can be obtained as an unlocked phone just as the iPhone 5 (which is LTE CAPABLE) even in the US (if you actually read the forums you'd know this is possible)

so technically an unlocked iPhone is LTE capable right of the box

specs? specs don't mean crap... the iPhone 5 smacked the GS3 like a little b1itch on the benchmarks

pricing? now that is a very different subject, people may believe the higher the price the bigger the value (higher quality build, materials etc) others might say Apple overprices their products to each his own.
 

Dave.UK

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someone said earlier kick ass ZPECSS WOW ZO TECHY OMG


specs don't mean crap, we saw how the iPhone 5 toasted the super OMG LEIK SUPER DUPPER TECHY GS3 specs,

why do people keep bringing up specs? specs don't mean anything at all !!

btw their tablet looked like a spaceship controller from a mid 90s scifi tv series hahahha

Im guessing specs dont mean anything unless they are in favour of apple?

Personally I think its a great looking phone, with very nice specs for very little money. I most certainly will be selling my Galaxy S3 for the Nexus 4.
 

apollo1444

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Im guessing specs dont mean anything unless they are in favour of apple?

Personally I think its a great looking phone, with very nice specs for very little money. I most certainly will be selling my Galaxy S3 for the Nexus 4.
don't twist what I said, specs don't mean crap because the GSS3 and other phones apparently had bigger processor speeds than the iphone 5 yet the iPhone 5 toasted them... so no, specs don't matter at all

OMG IT HAZ A 1.7 GHZ PROCESSORR LULZ specs don't matter crap until they actually run the tests and see how the phone compare and behaves next to other phones. if you buy an android device because it has an appealing processor number then you are retarded
 

Dave.UK

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so technically an unlocked iPhone is LTE capable right of the box

specs? specs don't mean crap... the iPhone 5 smacked the GS3 like a little b1itch on the benchmarks

Not in the UK. Unlocked iphone 5's will only work on EE lte. They will not be able to run on Vodafone or O2 lte when it goes live.

Regarding the rest of your post, ive seen benchmarks i favour of the iphone 5 and benchmarks in favour of the Galaxy S3.

Be very interesting to see benchmarks for the Nexus 4 and iphone 5.

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don't twist what I said, specs don't mean crap because the GSS3 and other phones apparently had bigger processor speeds than the iphone 5 yet the iPhone 5 toasted them... so no, specs don't matter at all

OMG IT HAZ A 1.7 GHZ PROCESSORR LULZ specs don't matter crap until they actually run the tests and see how the phone compare and behaves next to other phones. if you buy an android device because it has an appealing processor number then you are retarded

Im not going to get drawn into a childish debate with you. You've quite clearly come and posted in the Nexus 4 thread to be a pest.
 

onthecouchagain

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what is the fail here? isn't the nexus 4 and evolution of the previous model? if so it fails miserably by not getting LTE in the first place, that is the fail

who cares what the iPhone 4S costs the original point I made was that the new nexus doesn't look like a better product than the one it replaces and how fanboys and press react to it if Apple had released an iPhone5 without LTE probably everyone and their grandma would bash em hell and back,

google is the nice guy here the untouchable hahaha i tell ya basement dwellers


You are misinformed on a number of things. That is all.
 
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