I guess I'm confused. I have LTE but I don't get past 42+MBPS up and/or down. So if the Nexus 4 supports 42+MBPS, would it matter if I had LTE or not?
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For those of us on unlimited data, not having an SD card isn't a big deal since the cloud can be used to store music, pics, and videos.
It's coming to TMO on 11/14 for $199. Hmm. But for $100 more why not just buy it full price?
Biggest downfall. No LTE.
From Google, they decided not to because of money. It's a budget phone. If it had LTE, it wouldn't of been $299/$349.
Well said. I don't understand why the nexus line is the budget line now. It was always the direct link to google with regards to OS updates and the latest greatest hardware.
Because while HSPA+ in theory supports speeds up to 42 Mbps, in reality you'll never get close to that. I'm lucky to get 5-6 Mbps down on HSPA+ here but see LTE speeds that average 25-35 Mbps. So while many of you may be OK settling for that difference, I'm not.
See those speeds in my photo? Anything less than 25 Mbps is on HSPA.
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Would it have been better if they had added on a few hundred dollars? Budget might mean cost efficient but it doesn't mean it's low quality.
And the hardware on this Nexus line is really good.
Not correct--the Version Galaxy Nexus had LTE.
I think you guys are assuming a lot. I've seen zero mention of an LTE equipped Nexus 4 and if anything, rumors are that Verizon won't be getting a carrier branded version at all. Considering AT&T is the only GSM based LTE carrier in the US presently and the LTE rollout in Europe is quite a bit behind, AND that the LTE frequencies are across the board between carriers all over the world, I'd hedge a bet that there actually WILL NOT be an LTE Nexus 4.
Yeah, in fact, the more I read about it, the more it sounds like Google has no interest in wrestling with carriers for LTE.
Their LTE Galaxy Nexus with Verizon was apparently a horrible experience. No doubt Google doesn't have the weight that Apple does when dealing for LTE.
It's a shame for Verizon/Sprint users, and those that must have LTE.
Verge's article explains it all pretty well: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte/in/3335719
But we still don't know what will happen, and if this article is correct, there could be carrier-specific versions: http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/nexus-4-support-page-hints-at-carrier-branded-devices/
Their LTE Galaxy Nexus with Verizon was apparently a horrible experience. No doubt Google doesn't have the weight that Apple does when dealing for LTE.
It's a shame for Verizon/Sprint users, and those that must have LTE.
Verge's article explains it all pretty well: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte/in/3335719
But we still don't know what will happen, and if this article is correct, there could be carrier-specific versions: http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/nexus-4-support-page-hints-at-carrier-branded-devices/
2 Nexus = Price of my iPhone 5, for use who own an iPhone 5 and do not have LTE this is a no brainer, i'll sacrifice possibly the retina display and save 400 bucks, I love Apple, but I love my money even more maybe when the jailbreak is out i'll reconsider the i5 but for now this Nexus looks really great, 360 Panorama is something that captured my attention, I hate to say this, but it seems like Google did innovate and introduce few new things, Google Now looks promising
I believe the ppi of the Nexus 4 is a few pixels away from the iPhone. Forgot the exact numbers.
I disagree. The Nexus line has never been the latest greatest hardware, as Google would alienate their partner manufacturers. Notice that this isn't the LG flagship phone--the Optimus G has equal or better specs (32 GB onboard storage, 13 MP camera). There have been other Android based phones out for quite a while now with equal/better specs.
The Nexus line was always sold as a developer's phone without much fanfare and fortunately, always came in at a great price for an unlocked device.
Its obviously a very cheap device and the specs hold their own against much more expensive products. I still use an iPhone 4 as my daily driver and I love it, so I'm not sure if I could hop over to android as simple as - but its certainly cheap enough that lots of people will consider it.
Also if anyone is interested I threw together a video detailing how it stacks up against competitors and higher end products in terms of value for money, which can be found here: http://t.co/WxCW9izP
It is very tempting, I have used a few modern Android tablets but not properly experienced it on a phone since 2.3
Also if anyone is interested I threw together a video detailing how it stacks up against competitors and higher end products in terms of value for money, which can be found here: http://t.co/WxCW9izP
It is very tempting, I have used a few modern Android tablets but not properly experienced it on a phone since 2.3
In the verge's review of the Optimus G they liked the 8MP camera on the AT&T version better and so these are probably the same cameras so camera should be on par with an Optimus G and storage wise, Android is all about the cloud so for most stuff (save for music and games) should be fine, you still can load lots of stuff on a 16GB.
False. Nexus was the proof of concept of future devices running the latest and greatest OS version. The developer part is accurate but a couple of years ago the android world waited for the hardware announcement to spec out what future devices would require to run the newest OS. It just so happened the partners pushed the device specs further and faster than the nexus line.
I see Google's strategy to move devices outside of the carrier market and agree, but removing LTE a highly touted feature, dare I say a standard feature is a step back for the highly regarded nexus line. Budget or not nexus was supposed to set the hardware tone for the upcoming year. It appears Google wants a more controlled environment to release the devices to users world wide at a more penetrating market price, hence the release of multiple nexus devices now. The nexus has lost it exclusivity and became a budget device.
Alright, so the Nexus devices were the benchmark for what was required to run the latest version of Android--doesn't mean they were the best available. You said it yourself, other manufacturers put out better spec'd devices. My point was that at time of release, I don't think ANY Nexus device was top of the line hardware-wise, so expecting this to be any different is a bit naive.
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So the camera is the better of the two--is it considered to be among the best in the industry right now? I'd guess there are a few other phones out right now and another coming very soon that outperform it. And sorry but your storage statement is nonsense. The iPhone offers up to 64 GB (and Apple also loves to tout the benefits of the cloud), the upcoming One X+ will have a 64 GB option, the Galaxy Note II has a 64 GB option AND has expandable memory, the GSIII has 32 GB AND has expandable memory, the Lumia 920 offers up to 32 GB. Should I go on? Quit making excuses for an inferior spec.
Listen, I'm a fan of the Nexus line--previously had a Galaxy Nexus and if I ever get another Android device, it'll only be a Nexus. Maybe that's why I'm disappointed, because the lacking memory and omission of LTE are obstacles that I just personally can't deal with. And I hear so much vitriol when Apple offers basically a spec bump when they release an 'S' version of their phone but how is this any different? Slightly better processor, slightly better camera, improved screen with basically the same resolution, no improvement in on board storage and a battery that's not removable (benefit to some, 'meh' for others), no LTE--I'm sorry but what's to get excited about in regards to hardware?
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One has to remember the specs of other android phones at the time of the first couple of nexus devices, they were lagging. Then super phones getting released every few months became the norm. Each device maker has their version of the super phone now and those specs are more than doubling the nexus. Android hardware is a quickly moving force and it is even driving an abbreviated life cycle of the latest OS, rumored KLP release next month. At some point Google has to control this juggernaut. I see the nexus line being more consumer friendly and tempering off the super phone push we see monthly with new flagship devices.
If a nexus can push new OS with cutting edge features with "dated" hardware standards, that proves quad cores and 2+ gb ram in these psuedo flagship phones is really overkill.
Since Tmobile will be getting the Nexus 4 officially, one can try out the device in a Tmo store.
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Samsung last year released the Galaxy Nexus without LTE. The LG Nexus 4 carrier versions will have LTE.
But it sounds like you already found what you're looking for, so that's cool. Kudos.
Well, I anticipate the CDMA version to have LTE, it'd be quite awkward for LG to release a GSM carrier version w/ LTE while still trying to market an unlocked GSM non LTE phone. Also, there's little chance that T-Mobile would have gotten the non LTE version.
Anyway, holding LTE back will hurt LG at release. They concede a huge share of sales to other competitve and already LTE capable phones in the ones I previously listed.
And yes, I definitely found what I was looking for. Wasn't sold enough on JB itself when I owned my GNex. And considering Verizon is the only option if I want service, Nexus 4 doesn't even seem like a choice at the moment.
Google isn't charging $649 unlocked for the Nexus 4 though.
And these specs are more than just an "S"-like upgrade. Completely new screen, new battery technology, 2GB RAM (when will Apple ever reach this?), and a whole new back with a unibody like enclosure. This is pretty big.
I'd also argue that 4.2 is a pretty impressive update too.
But I totally understand that LTE is a deal breaker for some. That doesn't change the incredible value (specifically value, not just price) of the device for others. Especially when you consider in real world use, HSPA+ still loads websites in seconds and you'll get nearly double the battery life. If there's one thing to trade LTE for, it's that.
However, the storage sizes Google is offering for the Nexus 4 is untenable. 100% in agreement there. Lack of 32GB is a big mistake. Hopefully it'll come eventually.
PS. The verdict still isn't in yet whether there will be LTE Nexus 4 device or not.
Oh, I agree, there's no comparison in price for an unlocked device--ton's of value. I don't want that much value
, throw in LTE, a quality camera and more storage and I'll give you another $100-200--would still be cheaper than an unlocked iPhone.Wireless charging is just the tip of the iceberg. Check this video out at 1:48.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38
(the entire video is cool so if you have time watch it)
Anyways, imagine walking into your house and just setting your phone down on the countertop. Immediately it starts charging and integrates into the countertop. Incoming calls, messages, videos, etc. (think padphone integration onto a countertop) are displayed in a large format on the countertop itself. Pretty cool right? Well this wireless interaction would drain your battery quite quickly so wireless charging becomes necessary. While wireless charging is a little niche right now (although I personally think it has merits in convenience now), it will be the starting point to awesome technologies in the coming decades. I for one cannot wait.
On a side note, everything in the video are not just concepts. They are working prototypes and in some cases products that have already come to market. Looks pretty awesome to me
The Nexus 4 supports 42Mbps speeds with HSPA+ for those wondering. In the states we will only get those speeds on T-Mobile as AT&T decided not to do 42 and has 21Mbps only. I will be switching to either straight talk or more likely T-Mobile unlimited everything no contract plan. No overages and no throttling. Sounds amazing to me.
Engadget's hands-on and walk through: http://www.viddler.com/v/156bce48?secret=35112322
Device looks more and more beautiful. I'm so glad the back is very subtle.
And yes, you can configure the pull down Quick Settings menu, which I was wondering about.
Device looks more and more beautiful. I'm so glad the back is very subtle.
And yes, you can configure the pull down Quick Settings menu, which I was wondering about.
I wonder how fast the phone will charge via the pod. My Galaxy S3 charges pretty slow when using a usb connected to my laptop and it's not that fast through a wall either unless I use my Nexus 7 charger.
This is one of the very few things I miss about my iPhone. It used to charge really fast when connected to my laptop and even faster connected to the wall.
Since it will supposedly have a battery that lasts a whole day, there is no reason to be sitting around with the plugged in trying to use it. The point is when you go to sleep, you set it on the dock. It's simple and easy to use. Plus, it is tilted so you can set it to automatically show the clock.