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onthecouchagain

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Since it will supposedly have a battery that lasts a whole day, there is no reason to be sitting around with the plugged in trying to use it. The point is when you go to sleep, you set it on the dock. It's simple and easy to use. Plus, it is tilted so you can set it to automatically show the clock.

Yeah, I'm quite enamored by the Nexus Orb. I wonder what the pricing and release date will be. They seem kind of mum about its details...
 

Sensamic

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Bye bye SGS3. Hello nexus 4 (and maybe 10).

I can sell my SGS3 for 400$ and get the nexus 4. No problem.

No surprise Apple fired Scott. Just look at the improvements Google is releasing. Now their stock keyboard includes prediction like Swiftkey and gestures like.Swype. Compare that to the iOS keyboard. Ridiculous...

User accounts, settings in the status bar... abs what do you get with iOS meanwhile?

There's no LTE in my country so don't care. I would use the nexus 10 to store movies and the heavy stuff.
 

Southernboyj

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Mar 8, 2012
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HSPA+ is an incredibly acceptable compromise between high speed and battery saving measures. I actually love that this doesn't force LTE on people.

The LTE versions will come to those that need that much download speed, but IMO, it's excessive. Webpages load in under a second or two with HSPA+.

For such specs at such an insane price, this is wholly acceptable.

Awesome phone if your carrier doesn't have LTE in your area. Mine does, I won't even consider without LTE.
 

3bs

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May 20, 2011
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Bye bye SGS3. Hello nexus 4 (and maybe 10).

I can sell my SGS3 for 400$ and get the nexus 4. No problem.

No surprise Apple fired Scott. Just look at the improvements Google is releasing. Now their stock keyboard includes prediction like Swiftkey and gestures like.Swype. Compare that to the iOS keyboard. Ridiculous...

User accounts, settings in the status bar... abs what do you get with iOS meanwhile?

There's no LTE in my country so don't care. I would use the nexus 10 to store movies and the heavy stuff.

I doubt it'll be as good as SwiftKey but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I also plan on replacing my GS3 for the Nexus 4 :D
 

onthecouchagain

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I take it you have decided to get it now?

I was going to wait for a price drop or a 32GB version. Who woulda thunk the "price drop" would happen on the first day. Didn't expect it to be $299 and $349.

I'm still going to hold off and resist just a little bit to see if there are any leaks or rumblings of a 32GB. If they had offered it, I would have been sold.

Very curious to see reviews too.
 

atticus27

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I'm gonna wait to see some review, but I'm likely gonna sell my gs3 for this.
LTE is nice, but HSPA+ is fast enough and data caps kinda kill LTE anyways. I'm still happy to give it up to have stock android with up to date updates. The fact that the s3 hasn't received jelly bean yet is a joke (and stock android looks way better than touch wiz).
the no expandable memory sucks though. I guess I'll use google music on it.
Price is killer too for an off contract phone
 

onthecouchagain

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LTE is nice, but HSPA+ is fast enough and data caps kinda kill LTE anyways. I'm still happy to give it up to have stock android with up to date updates.

Don't forget you're also trading in LTE for nearly double the talk time battery of the iPhone and over a 100+ more hours of standby time than the iPhone.
 

PDFierro

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I was going to wait for a price drop or a 32GB version. Who woulda thunk the "price drop" would happen on the first day. Didn't expect it to be $299 and $349.

I'm still going to hold off and resist just a little bit to see if there are any leaks or rumblings of a 32GB. If they had offered it, I would have been sold.

Very curious to see reviews too.

32GB would be nice. The lack of it wouldn't stop me from buying it, but it'd be nice to have the option. Otherwise 16GB would suffice for me right now.

I'm on the fence. The phone looks great, but I'm questioning if I really want to leave Verizon.

I'm glad that some people are seeing the benefits to HSPA+. Some see the lack of LTE and think of it as a big deal, but an unlocked device like this one was never going to have LTE. And HSPA+ is plenty fast and offers better battery life.
 

michaeljohn

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After over a year with LTE, there is absolutely no way I could go back. This just made my decision much easier. Galaxy Note 2 for me.
 

thecurryman

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lol some of the people on here are redicouous...its ONLY $300 WITHOUT contract... and unlocked...seriously, find a phone that has those specs, at that price...it doesnt have LTE? 1) HSPA+ is pretty fast (get like 5-7 mbs where i live) 2) who is to say that there will not be carrier specific LTE in the future??

For only $300 this is a steal...compare the 16gb nexus 4 to the iphone 5...Nexus= $349 vs. Iphone= $649...only difference? no LTE but is it worth paying nearly double for that? I feel like getting one because its just so cheap and such a great phone (spec wise)..
 

sarcosis

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lol some of the people on here are redicouous...its ONLY $300 WITHOUT contract... and unlocked...seriously, find a phone that has those specs, at that price...it doesnt have LTE? 1) HSPA+ is pretty fast (get like 5-7 mbs where i live) 2) who is to say that there will not be carrier specific LTE in the future??

For only $300 this is a steal...compare the 16gb nexus 4 to the iphone 5...Nexus= $349 vs. Iphone= $649...only difference? no LTE but is it worth paying nearly double for that? I feel like getting one because its just so cheap and such a great phone (spec wise)..

Nexus 4 is a tremendous value. Even comparing apples to similar apples, the S3 unlocked international version (the one without LTE) is still $550. And that's with a quad core 1.4 Ghz Exynos and 1GB of Ram with the same amount of storage and Pen-tile screen.
 
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onthecouchagain

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I'd like to add:

15.3 hours talk time / 330 standby time _vs_ 8 hours talk time / 225 standby


It might also be worth pointing out that on the iPhone side, the price should really start at $649. -_-
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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Wow...Jelly Bean 4.2 is even better. Im going to get a 16GB N4. Great price. The only thing i dont like is the 16GB of storage. 32 would be more ideal, and REALLY want that to feel better but for $349, im going to get one from the Playstore. Who knows if they will ever announce a 32GB model. The GNex never did as far as i know.

I can sell my GS3 for more than the N4 costs or just give it to my Wife and sell her Windows phone.
Im on T-Mobile and ive never had LTE so i dont care about the N4 not having it. Really, the 4G HSPA+ is pretty fast and i dont know what im missing with LTE so im fine with not having it.

Ive never berated iPhone users for theirs not having it. Ive only berated them for not even having 4G til just recently...lol

So glad about this price announcement. Now i can still get a 32GB Nexus 7 and still spend only $600 for both (which is less than a off contract iP5) OR wait down the road perhaps for Xmas sales and get that Levono Windows 8 Yoga Ultrabook i like.
 

onthecouchagain

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Front of the Nexus 4 is beautiful. The back... love or hate. I can see both sides of the argument. I started out liking it, then hating it, now I'm liking it again because 1) it's an homage to the first Nexus live wallpaper, and 2) all the hands-on videos show that the back design is very subtle (phew).

The iPhone 5 still looks weird to me. Like it's more a chocolate bar than a phone. The back I think is love or hate too like the Nexus 4. I will say though that the diamond cut band around the iPhone 5 is absolutely gorgeous, especially the white one. The chrome around the Nexus 4 is unfortunate. :\
 
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adder7712

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Good looking device. Too bad memory is somewhat limited (wouldn't mind if it has expandable storage).

Maybe they'll release a 32GB version later, it better not be carrier specific though.
 

onthecouchagain

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http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3570034/inside-android-building-the-nexus-4-nexus-10-android-4-2

The accompanying article to that Verge hands-on and visit to the Google building video just makes me like the fellas at Google even more.

They seem humbling, modest, admitting their failures; it's really so much more palpable and relatable. I can't get over how disingenuous Tim Cook and Phil Schiller can sound. I can still hear Cook's exaggerated enthusiasm... "This is really jaw-dropping stuff" and it makes me cringe.

Anyway, I highly recommend reading through the article. Here's the portion regarding LTE:


"For now we're gonna sit back and watch those networks evolve. Two radios in a device right now certainly raises the cost, and diminishes battery life." This point seems to frustrate him. "When we did the Galaxy Nexus with LTE we had to do just that, and it just wasn't a great user experience. It's possible to do it right, but that's not where we'll put our resources initially. Tactically, we want to make sure the devices are available for every network on the planet."

The sentiment makes some sense. The global subscriber base of LTE users is still tiny, even with a massive uptick in the US over the past year.
 

F123D

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Sep 16, 2008
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I'm just trying to figure out what kind of speeds I'd be getting on hspa+ and if it would be sufficient. I could use this phone for the next year and still have an upgrade to burn anytime in the future..
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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I'm just trying to figure out what kind of speeds I'd be getting on hspa+ and if it would be sufficient. I could use this phone for the next year and still have an upgrade to burn anytime in the future..

When I had the previous nexus I was getting between 4-8 mbps down on HSPA+, which was just fine.

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http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3570034/inside-android-building-the-nexus-4-nexus-10-android-4-2

The accompanying article to that Verge hands-on and visit to the Google building video just makes me like the fellas at Google even more.

They seem humbling, modest, admitting their failures; it's really so much more palpable and relatable. I can't get over how disingenuous Tim Cook and Phil Schiller can sound. I can still hear Cook's exaggerated enthusiasm... "This is really jaw-dropping stuff" and it makes me cringe.

Anyway, I highly recommend reading through the article. Here's the portion regarding LTE:


"For now we're gonna sit back and watch those networks evolve. Two radios in a device right now certainly raises the cost, and diminishes battery life." This point seems to frustrate him. "When we did the Galaxy Nexus with LTE we had to do just that, and it just wasn't a great user experience. It's possible to do it right, but that's not where we'll put our resources initially. Tactically, we want to make sure the devices are available for every network on the planet."

The sentiment makes some sense. The global subscriber base of LTE users is still tiny, even with a massive uptick in the US over the past year.

That quote is the exact thing apple gets bashed for all the time.....when in reality it makes sense.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Except the difference is that Apple still charges a arm and a leg for their devices.

true, but it is pretty much on par with what others do if you want contract free. The nexus is in a class of its of own at that price, contract free.
 
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