Btw ive seen it mention before but being lazy bare with me, what is the purpose of "juice defender"
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It manages your 3G/4G connection and Wi-fi automatically. It turns them off when not is use. You can use it automate some other tasks. BTW, if you want to see the ultimate automation app, check out Tasker.
Il try both when i get my nexus 4, that tasker one seems to have more options in regards to automation; i never leave wifi on or bluetooth but i loved the cydia tweak "auto3g" that enabled you to turn off or change to edge while the phone is locked.
How do you know on iOS what your screen on time is? Every time it checks and receives mail, updates certain cell data, checks intagram, twitter, Facebook etc it counts toward "usage" in the settings menu. Same applies when you are talking on the phone and the screen is off.
I've seen my usage at 6 hours 59 minutes during an 8 hour work day. Yeah I played on it a lot but not the entire day!
you mean... a much faster OS (cocoa), with better and much faster apps (native), better looks, better ecosystem?
i don't get it.
Why do people keep posting the same threads all over and why do people response with the same stuff again ..
This is getting tiring ...
This is getting tiring ...
The extent to which Google has embarrassingly ****ed up this product launch is just absurd. I have owned every iPhone since the original in 07 but was ready to buy a Nexus 4 on launch. Spent 3 hours on launch day trying to get an order through, 2 weeks later and you STILL can't even place an order, it's an absolute joke. Seeing how Google has handled this release makes me never want to buy an Android phone period.
100% agree the launch was a huge mess. Many publications agree too. Google knows they messed up, and they're paying for it with customers finding alternative options (S3's were only 49.99 on Black Friday. Then there's the iPhone 5, of course).
Having said that, if you truly believe stock Android will give you the best experience, it doesn't make any sense to denounce the purchase because of a poor launch. Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Getting the Nexus 4 was never about being first. It's about the stock Android experience. This is a smartphone which you'll use presumably every single day for presumably one to two years, if not more. Considering that, a week or two's wait may be worth it to have your preferred OS.
Also, they will be available for order today at 12 PM PST / 3 PM EST. An email actually got sent out this morning, so Google is learning.
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100% agree the launch was a huge mess. Many publications agree too. Google knows they messed up, and they're paying for it with customers finding alternative options (S3's were only 49.99 on Black Friday. Then there's the iPhone 5, of course).
Having said that, if you truly believe stock Android will give you the best experience, it doesn't make any sense to denounce the purchase because of a poor launch. Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Getting the Nexus 4 was never about being first. It's about the stock Android experience. This is a smartphone which you'll use presumably every single day for presumably one to two years, if not more. Considering that, a week or two's wait may be worth it to have your preferred OS.
Also, they will be available for order today at 12 PM PST / 3 PM EST. An email actually got sent out this morning, so Google is learning.
I got that email as well. I'm fully expecting that even though I will be on the site at 2:58pm EST something will still be screwed up and I won't get one. Last time it was their shopping cart breaking and the site just generally not being built to handle and substantive traffic, I'm sure there will either be the same or other issues today that will prevent me from getting one.
Possibly. Google is limiting it to two per customer for each storage size. I think they're more prepared this time, evidenced by the email actually being sent out, and giving an actual time of sale.
In any case, good luck.
EDIT: Also, those that already ordered two devices per size during launch, cannot order again.
EDIT 2: Also back in stock at Tmobile website: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Google-Nexus-4
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One would have to be rather naive to continue to pay a contract rate for cell service without also taking advantage of a subsidy-discounted device. Simply sell it. Presto, you have a subsidy discount for the Nexus 4. If you are staying with AT&T anyway you would be foolish to not do that.
I am also on AT&T and can get an iPhone 5 for $200. I can sell that as brand-new for an easy $400 (or more probably). That brings the cost of the N4 down by $200 or more, making it considerably less expensive than an iPhone 5.
HOWEVER, in the long run staying with AT&T would cost me more than simply dropping AT&T and going with one of the many prepaid plans. This would save me $60 or more per month. So my "discount" from AT&T, that locks me into a two year contract, would end up costing an additional $1,400.00 over the duration of the contract. So I am thinking of going with one of the other options.
Michael
What is the data like on those prepaid plans? I agree about selling the iphone and making money. That was one of the most appealing things when toying with keeping the nexus. I could have paid for the phone plus made about $250
I was going to try Straight Talk with an AT&T sim. I have heard good reports about them. Data is unlimited, but you can get throttled at 2GB if they think you are adversely affecting the network.
There is also that t-mobile $30 plan that has unlimited data but only 100 voice minutes. I have tapatalk on my N4 and unlike on iOS it can be my default phone app. That would route all calls through google voice for free (not by calling gv but VoIP). Alas, t-mob is not good where I live so I need a solution that uses AT&T.
One thing you don't get with these MVNO's is roaming. I don't think I have roamed but once while having AT&T so I don't think that is much of a concern (unless it is roaming and I don't know about it).
Michael
Better ecosystem ? Nope thats subjective, better and much faster apps ? Nope, better looks ? Nope again is subjective.
I don't think the better ecosystem is up for debate at all. Microsoft has a good eco system, but the integration with ipads, appletv, and iphones is by far the best. The nexus Q was a joke, and I don't think microsoft has merged into tv's yet
I am apple fan, I basically have all the stuff that apple made, and I am now waiting endlessly for the iMac.
However I was contemplating if to upgrade my iPhone 4 to 5, and then a friend sent me the article on nexus 4.
Guys I have to admit the competition is getting tougher.
First: the price , half! Of the iPhone.
Second: the size, no matter how apple advertise it but the shape of the iPhone 5 is odd.
It give the iPhone odd proportions,
Third: The look of the iPhone, ios wise is old, it is the same for few years now, while the nexus is new, and it seems that google is really trying to top itself every iteration.
And last is the desgin of the iPhone 5 no matter how you look it is the same as iPhone 4.
( a little thinner)
What do you say? Objectively...
You can't get a replacement phone with any other company as easy as the iPhone. If it is broke they will fix or replace in a retail store, you can't do this as readily or easily with other manufacturers. Coupled with the fact they use more premium materials and have higher margins then yes, it will cost more.
The big thing for me, is that I know I am good for two years with any iPhone before I start to miss out on new features in iOS updates. With Android, they release them, and the phone gets maybe one update. Coupled with the fact that all the major games come out on iPhone first and sometimes exclusively, along with some apps as well then your argument starts to fall apart.
After seeing the way my Dad was treated with his top of the range HTC Desire HD in terms of software support, I will never go Android. Plus Apples ecosystem is much more advanced and mature.
LOL. Yea sure.
iPhone 4 owners got the shaft a little over a year after it was released. Can you say Siri? Not if you have an iPhone 4.
Michael
High-end Android phones also use premium materials. That's a very generic statement. What do you mean by higher margins? Are you referring to Apple's profit margins?
This discussion is about the Nexus 4, which gets updates immediately. Samsung's high-end phones are also OK at getting updates.
I'm genuinely curious. What advantages does the Apple ecosystem offer you that others cannot?
This is an awfully weak excuse.
Especially since Android has a selection of keyboards to choose from.
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Not much from my perspective.
Good thing for me is that I've not needed a replacement of my Nexus S or my Galaxy Nexus. Phones that don't go wrong always > phones that go wrong and are easily replaced IMO. You may like visits to the Apple store so that Kay be a bonus.
As for software updates, not a single feature was stripped from the Android 4.0 or 4.1 update of the Nexus S compared to the newer Galaxy Nexus, neither was the 4.2 update on the Galaxy Nexus compared to the Nexus 4 (feature wise it was exactly the same as my Nexus 4). Apple love to hold back on things needlessly which are generally later unlocked by a jailbreak tweak. I fond it completely unnecessary to hold back features for no reason which the hardware is capable of.
Your Dad's experience with the Desire HD would have been far better had he gone for a Nexus handset. Still, he and you are undoubtedly better off gong for a phone that is easily replaced when it goes wrong and may or may not be fully supported feature wise when it comes to an update.
Sounds good man.
(Post written on an iPad so apologies for any autocorrect weirdness)
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Whether you liked it or not it was held back from the iPhone 4, rendering your assertion that you get two years with full iOS updates moot. By the way, I did not and do not find Siri useless. Granted I think Google Now is a bit better but that is besides the point.
It's also a fact that it happened a year after the 3GS was released when iOS 4 came out too: no multitasking support, no task switcher, no orientation lock, no lock-screen wallpaper, and no bluetooth keyboard support.
Michael