Nexus 5

[onthecouchagain]

Google Watching coming along with KitKat and Nexus 5? Event on Oct 31st?

We may be disappointed tomorrow...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Watch-allegedly-getting-ready-for-the-limelight_id48276

 

[spinedoc77]

Google Watching coming along with KitKat and Nexus 5? Event on Oct 31st?

We may be disappointed tomorrow...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Watch-allegedly-getting-ready-for-the-limelight_id48276

I just hope they let it work with any Android device, not pull the crap samsung did. My BIGGEST hope is that Google does indeed put a launcher up on the Play store and cuts the carriers out of the OS updates.

 

[onthecouchagain]

KitKat might bring Touchless Google Now to the Nexus 5: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-may-bring-always-listening-Google-Now_id48271

More Nexus 5 hardware leaks. Nothing new here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/More-Nexus-5-images-appear-this-time-from-Russia_id48279

Ton of new KitKat images: http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...-KitKat-easter-egg-UI-tweaks-and-more_id48282

 

[strausd]

Not exactly true, while android OS reports in battery stats that screen uses the most, the SOC and the Cell radio are actually responsible for most of the power drain. You can test this by leaving the phone in airplane mode and setting the display timeout to never and leaving the device idle. It will last extremely long. Yes this was tested with an LCD screen not an amoled screen.

Yes, radios and CPU require some power. But not as much as the screen.

Like I said you can come back and say I told you so if the battery life is crap, but I prefer to wait and for myself. I know you seem to have this negative view of the nexus line, and I can understand some of that because you did not have the greatest experience. I just know from my experience with now 3 different nexus devices. Not all of the have bad battery life.

I am going to buy, and enjoy this phone even if things are not 100% perfect. I know there will never be a phone like that. If you choose to believe the nexus 5 will have problems before it is even release. Then by all means do so.

Yes, I hate the Nexus line. That is why I constantly say I hate my Nexus 4 and will never buy the Nexus 5. Oh wait, its the exact opposite.

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I just hope they let it work with any Android device, not pull the crap samsung did. My BIGGEST hope is that Google does indeed put a launcher up on the Play store and cuts the carriers out of the OS updates.

Google needs to allow for 3rd party notification pull down bins and put the stock one on Google Play.

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Google Watching coming along with KitKat and Nexus 5? Event on Oct 31st?

We may be disappointed tomorrow...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Watch-allegedly-getting-ready-for-the-limelight_id48276

October 31st is my bet.

Google has been going towards cheap hardware lately. If they follow that trend and get this smartwatch to work with any phone, I doubt the Galaxy Gear will be able to compete.

 

[bmac4]

Yes, radios and CPU require some power. But not as much as the screen.



Yes, I hate the Nexus line. That is why I constantly say I hate my Nexus 4 and will never buy the Nexus 5. Oh wait, its the exact opposite.

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Google needs to allow for 3rd party notification pull down bins and put the stock one on Google Play.

When did I say you hated the nexus line? Seems someone is putting words in my mouth.

 

[spinedoc77]

Google needs to allow for 3rd party notification pull down bins and put the stock one on Google Play.

Yeah I hope they get their stock launcher on Google Play as well, that WILL be a game changer for them as a company.

 

[strausd]

When did I say you hated the nexus line? Seems someone is putting words in my mouth.

According to you I have a negative view of the Nexus line despite my constant remarks on how much I enjoy my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and how I will be purchasing the Nexus 5.

I know you seem to have this negative view of the nexus line

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Yeah I hope they get their stock launcher on Google Play as well, that WILL be a game changer for them as a company.

Personally I don't see that as being a huge game changer as Nova already allows you to make it work exactly like the stock launcher.

 

[bmac4]

According to you I have a negative view of the Nexus line despite my constant remarks on how much I enjoy my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and how I will be purchasing the Nexus 5.

I did not use the word hate though. Also it seems your negative views come out more than your positive. Again I could careless if you like it or not. I am going to buy it, and I am sure I will enjoy it. If you find things you don't like. Then fine. I was just saying that you already thinking the battery is going to be a screw up. Is kind of crazy. We have no idea how it will preform. You can give me all this history, stats, and what eats power the most, but until the phone is released you just do not know.

 

[F123D]

With the Kit Kat name, I'm guessing an announcement for the Nexus 5 and new OS will probably be closer around Halloween..

 

[onthecouchagain]

With the Kit Kat name, I'm guessing an announcement for the Nexus 5 and new OS will probably be closer around Halloween..

Oh, crud. I think you're right. That makes the Oct 31st date more believable.

Dang.

 

[gotluck]

I did not use the word hate though. Also it seems your negative views come out more than your positive. Again I could careless if you like it or not. I am going to buy it, and I am sure I will enjoy it. If you find things you don't like. Then fine. I was just saying that you already thinking the battery is going to be a screw up. Is kind of crazy. We have no idea how it will preform. You can give me all this history, stats, and what eats power the most, but until the phone is released you just do not know.

Yea he's gotten me riled up when he speaks as if nothing else but his opinion is possible (I concede he has many reasonable reasons usually), but that's just him

 

[strausd]

I did not use the word hate though. Also it seems your negative views come out more than your positive. Again I could careless if you like it or not. I am going to buy it, and I am sure I will enjoy it. If you find things you don't like. Then fine. I was just saying that you already thinking the battery is going to be a screw up. Is kind of crazy. We have no idea how it will preform. You can give me all this history, stats, and what eats power the most, but until the phone is released you just do not know.

Yea he's gotten me riled up when he speaks as if nothing else but his opinion is possible (I concede he has many reasonable reasons usually), but that's just him

I never said we know exactly what battery life will be. I am only using what available information we have to get a general idea. Never said anything concrete about battery life, never said it will for sure be this, that, or anything else. Just all speculation. If you are saying I did anything else than take available information and past devices as evidence to create a theory, then you are forcing your own assumptions on my speculation. But it is nothing more than that, speculation. And speculation based on Google's history, past devices, and available information is more than nothing. Speculating can also be enjoyable.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Oh, crud. I think you're right. That makes the Oct 31st date more believable.

Dang.

Yeah. While I'd love for it to be tomorrow, it is good marketing to give us candy for Halloween.

I'm even excited about the watch, and I haven't worn a watch in several years.

 

[jrswizzle]

I never said we know exactly what battery life will be. I am only using what available information we have to get a general idea. Never said anything concrete about battery life, never said it will for sure be this, that, or anything else. Just all speculation. If you are saying I did anything else than take available information and past devices as evidence to create a theory, then you are forcing your own assumptions on my speculation. But it is nothing more than that, speculation. And speculation based on Google's history, past devices, and available information is more than nothing. Speculating can also be enjoyable.

This happens far too often on these forums:

-Take available information
-Create a probable/possible idea
-Speculate
-Get you speculations taken as stated facts and get attacked

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

I never said we know exactly what battery life will be. I am only using what available information we have to get a general idea. Never said anything concrete about battery life, never said it will for sure be this, that, or anything else. Just all speculation. If you are saying I did anything else than take available information and past devices as evidence to create a theory, then you are forcing your own assumptions on my speculation. But it is nothing more than that, speculation. And speculation based on Google's history, past devices, and available information is more than nothing. Speculating can also be enjoyable.

I speculate that the battery will drain very fast for me while everyone else claims it lasts all day for them. That has been my experience with every Android phone I've ever had. Especially the Nexus devices. During the month I had the Galaxy Nexus I had to charge it multiple times per day.

 

[gotluck]

I never said we know exactly what battery life will be. I am only using what available information we have to get a general idea. Never said anything concrete about battery life, never said it will for sure be this, that, or anything else. Just all speculation. If you are saying I did anything else than take available information and past devices as evidence to create a theory, then you are forcing your own assumptions on my speculation. But it is nothing more than that, speculation. And speculation based on Google's history, past devices, and available information is more than nothing. Speculating can also be enjoyable.

I hear you I'm just prodding - sometimes it comes of as more than speculation

 

[onthecouchagain]

Yeah. While I'd love for it to be tomorrow, it is good marketing to give us candy for Halloween.

I'm even excited about the watch, and I haven't worn a watch in several years.

Yeah, the Google Watch will be quite an interesting surprise.

-Google Play Edition phones of two Android flagships (where's the rest, I wonder...)
-Nexus 7 2
-The promising potentials of the Nexus 5
-Google Glass
-Now, possibly, Google watch?
-Then there's the imminent Nexus 10...
-The constant updating of their core apps (I mean, it's been insane the past month+. Chrome, Translate, Mail, Music, YouTube, Keyboard, Maps, Wallet, Google Now, etc.)... and all of them available for nearly all devices regardless of carrier/android version (4.0 and up, which is about 70+ percent of Android users and includes two+ year old users)

Google is killing it this year.

 

[jrswizzle]

Yeah, the Google Watch will be quite an interesting surprise.

-Google Play Edition phones
-Nexus 7 2
-The potential of the Nexus 5
-Google Glass
-Now, possibly, Google watch?
-Then there's the imminent Nexus 10...
-The constant updating of their core apps (I mean, it's been insane the past month+. Chrome, Translate, Mail, Music, YouTube, Keyboard, Maps)... and all of them available for nearly all devices regardless of carrier/android version (4.0 and up, which is about 70+ percent of Android users and includes two+ year old users)

I mean, Google is killing it this year.

I'm hoping its not as half baked as the Gear. I'm looking for a smartwatch with more functionality than an old iPod nano on a wristband with a phone feature I'd never use....

Think about it though.....could be the not too distant future we see people talking to their glasses and wrists.....lol

EDIT: You mean GMAIL app updates and not MAIL app updates right? Man I wish the MAIL app looked and worked like the GMAIL app.....that they were one and the same. That would be killer.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I'm hoping its not as half baked as the Gear. I'm looking for a smartwatch with more functionality than an old iPod nano on a wristband with a phone feature I'd never use....

Think about it though.....could be the not too distant future we see people talking to their glasses and wrists.....lol

EDIT: You mean GMAIL app updates and not MAIL app updates right? Man I wish the MAIL app looked and worked like the GMAIL app.....that they were one and the same. That would be killer.

Gmail*.

 

[strausd]

Yeah, the Google Watch will be quite an interesting surprise.

-Google Play Edition phones of two Android flagships (where's the rest, I wonder...)
-Nexus 7 2
-The promising potentials of the Nexus 5
-Google Glass
-Now, possibly, Google watch?
-Then there's the imminent Nexus 10...
-The constant updating of their core apps (I mean, it's been insane the past month+. Chrome, Translate, Mail, Music, YouTube, Keyboard, Maps, Wallet, Google Now, etc.)... and all of them available for nearly all devices regardless of carrier/android version (4.0 and up, which is about 70+ percent of Android users and includes two+ year old users)

Google is killing it this year.

Since Google released the Nexus 10 at the same time as the Nexus 4, I expect them to do the same thing this year. I'm surprised there haven't been as many rumors about it lately. Maybe people just aren't as interested in a 10" Android tablet.

 

[bmac4]

This happens far too often on these forums:

-Take available information
-Create a probable/possible idea
-Speculate
-Get you speculations taken as stated facts and get attacked

Really jrswizzle. How about read our entire discussion about this before posting about it. You of all people I thought would do that. I never once took his assumptions as fact. I am arguing that he thinks the battery will not be very good. I am only arguing his opinion. Not that this is fact set in stone. Please read what he and I posted before.

 

[bmac4]

Yea he's gotten me riled up when he speaks as if nothing else but his opinion is possible (I concede he has many reasonable reasons usually), but that's just him

He is not worth my time any more. You are right. His opinion only. If he thinks the battery is going to suck. Well then the battery is going to suck. The Nexus 5 is only as good as he says. I am just tired of his crap, and negative thinking about everything Nexus. Why does he think the Nexus phone always has to have a screw up? He has shown me no evidence beyond the Nexus 4 that the nexus line has had issues. Or should I say screw ups.

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

Nexus 5

If we compare the G2 with very similar hardware at 3000 maH vs the rumored N5 with 2300 maH...then we get the G2 with great battery life and the N5 with okay to good battery life. That's my guess.

I admit it's a little disappointing. But. Show me another 5 inch, 1080P, snapdragon 800, wireless charging phone with the latest and greatest bloat free software from google for $350-$400 and I'll gladly buy that instead.

 

[strausd]

This happens far too often on these forums:

-Take available information
-Create a probable/possible idea
-Speculate
-Get you speculations taken as stated facts and get attacked

Could not agree with you more.

He is not worth my time any more. You are right. His opinion only. If he thinks the battery is going to suck. Well then the battery is going to suck. The Nexus 5 is only as good as he says. I am just tired of his crap, and negative thinking about everything Nexus. Why does he think the Nexus phone always has to have a screw up? He has shown me no evidence beyond the Nexus 4 that the nexus line has had issues. Or should I say screw ups.

Before I respond to all of this nonsense, let me take a moment to quote something specific from your earlier post:

Please read what he and I posted before.

Hmm, interesting. Too bad you don't follow your own words. Here are some points you clearly missed or ignored.

I never said we know exactly what battery life will be. I am only using what available information we have to get a general idea. Never said anything concrete about battery life, never said it will for sure be this, that, or anything else. Just all speculation. If you are saying I did anything else than take available information and past devices as evidence to create a theory, then you are forcing your own assumptions on my speculation. But it is nothing more than that, speculation. And speculation based on Google's history, past devices, and available information is more than nothing. Speculating can also be enjoyable.

Clearly I am just speculating as to what will happen. Not saying anything for sure.

According to you I have a negative view of the Nexus line despite my constant remarks on how much I enjoy my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and how I will be purchasing the Nexus 5.

And I'm sorry you constantly think I am negative towards the Nexus line. I didn't know you looked down upon people wanting to see products they like improve. Geez.

It is perfectly fine for people to be critical of the devices they own. That helps them look for better products. If the people who make a phone are never critical of it, how will it ever improve?!? You are allowed to be critical of the products you enjoy. You need to stop looking down on people just for being critical of the products they use. This is a serious problem you continually make.

If we compare the G2 with very similar hardware at 3000 maH vs the rumored N5 with 2300 maH...then we get the G2 with great battery life and the N5 with okay to good battery life. That's my guess.

I admit it's a little disappointing. But. Show me another 5 inch, 1080P, snapdragon 800, wireless charging phone with the latest and greatest software from google for $350-$400 and I'll gladly buy that instead.

Yes, for the price it will be awesome. No disagreement there. The problem I am having is that an LG G2 with a 2300 mAh battery produces decent battery life. But we may not be getting the battery life of an LG G2 with a 2300 mAh battery.

Look back at the Optimus G and Nexus 4. Same exact specs on CPU, GPU, screen, RAM, and battery capacity. Yet very different battery life. Taken from Engadget:

Battery life is yet another segment of the performance that's confused us. Since the Nexus 4 uses the same 2,100mAh battery (and power-friendly Krait chip) as the Optimus G, we expected to record essentially the same runtime. Much to our surprise, however, it was considerably worse in both our tests and our real-life use. Our standard video rundown test, which consists of looping a movie at 50 percent brightness with WiFi on (but not connected) and normal pull notifications for email and social media, lasted for five hours and 18 minutes before the battery died. Our anecdotal tests -- in which we do a moderate amount of email, social media, messaging, web surfing and take a few pictures and make some phone calls -- almost got us a full day of use, but your overall result will definitely depend on how bright you set that display. Regardless, the experience we had with both of our review units is still a stark contrast to the Optimus G, which lasted over eight hours in the video rundown test and 20 hours with moderate use.

Same test, same internal hardware. Nexus 4 gets 5 hours and 18 minutes, Optimus G gets over 8 hours. So sure, we can speculate that a Nexus 5 might have decent battery based on an LG G2 with a 2300 mAh battery. But we must also consider the fact that a Nexus 5 can still get significantly worse battery life compared to an LG G2 with a theoretical 2300 mAh battery as that is what happened last year essentially.

I did an earlier post on the Nexus 5 and G2 battery life. At first, it looks promising. But I forgot the fact that last year battery life was vastly different despite the same hardware. So battery life could be even worse than in that post. Although it could be better or the same. We will find out. But apparently some people on here really hate when others speculate. I quite enjoy it

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

Could not agree with you more.



Before I respond to all of this nonsense, let me take a moment to quote something specific from your earlier post:


Hmm, interesting. Too bad you don't follow your own words. Here are some points you clearly missed or ignored.


Clearly I am just speculating as to what will happen. Not saying anything for sure.



And I'm sorry you constantly think I am negative towards the Nexus line. I didn't know you looked down upon people wanting to see products they like improve. Geez.

It is perfectly fine for people to be critical of the devices they own. That helps them look for better products. If the people who make a phone are never critical of it, how will it ever improve?!? You are allowed to be critical of the products you enjoy. You need to stop looking down on people just for being critical of the products they use. This is a serious problem you continually make.



Yes, for the price it will be awesome. No disagreement there. The problem I am having is that an LG G2 with a 2300 mAh battery produces decent battery life. But we may not be getting the battery life of an LG G2 with a 2300 mAh battery.

Look back at the Optimus G and Nexus 4. Same exact specs on CPU, GPU, screen, RAM, and battery capacity. Yet very different battery life. Taken from Engadget:



Same test, same internal hardware. Nexus 4 gets 5 hours and 18 minutes, Optimus G gets over 8 hours. So sure, we can speculate that a Nexus 5 might have decent battery based on an LG G2 with a 2300 mAh battery. But we must also consider the fact that a Nexus 5 can still get significantly worse battery life compared to an LG G2 with a theoretical 2300 mAh battery as that is what happened last year essentially.

I did an earlier post on the Nexus 5 and G2 battery life. At first, it looks promising. But I forgot the fact that last year battery life was vastly different despite the same hardware. So battery life could be even worse than in that post. Although it could be better or the same. We will find out. But apparently some people on here really hate when others speculate. I quite enjoy it

Speculating is half the fun! But that article had an update to it where they received a new unit from google with better battery life. Still not as good as the G for some reason. I can't believe LG does software battery optimization better than google but something is going on.