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ReanimationN

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That's really disappointing that the 2nd gen is still laggy. That's what really killed the 1st gen for me. Still though, those are great specs and a killer screen for the price.
 

TheRealCBONE

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Nov 26, 2012
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" Also, I am starting to find apps that are incompatible with the Nexus 7. I have never had this problem before with the Nexus 4. But one game I play quite often, Blitz Brigade, is not compatible. What's weird is that the Nexus 7 has the same CPU and RAM as the Nexus 4! Why it is incompatible I have no idea. But this is very frustrating."

Idiotic use of whitelists instead of sensible blacklist + whitelist. Devs would rather you not be able to get an app at all and be annoyed but unable to rate and complain rather than get an app that isn't fully compatible with your device and give them a bad rating.
 

arbogast777

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Sep 4, 2010
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I was going to start a thread with my own review but I'll just jump in here...

Never used an Android device before, so thought I'd try a Nexus 7. The screen is definately nice (love the color), but I just can't get used to the 16:10 7in display size. it makes a BIG difference, especially when those back, home, and multitask keys at the bottom take up even more of the screen space.

An example of this is below - the Nexus and Mini side by side showing the same page. I lined them up at the top not by bezels but by screens...

As for the OS itself - I can definately see how a certain segment of user would love to have the ability to change everything to make it their *own*, and I'm glad they have a product to help them do that, but I love the simpliticty, usuability, and dare I say class of iOS.
 

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appledes7

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Jul 12, 2011
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A few have started showing up on Amazon. Type Nexus 7 2nd generation case in the search bar.

Note the use of keyword "good" in my previous post. Thus why I asked for opinions on here.

That's really disappointing that the 2nd gen is still laggy. That's what really killed the 1st gen for me. Still though, those are great specs and a killer screen for the price.

Ya, great specs for the price. But specs don't mean much if it still lags.

Most of the time it is fine, but just recently I was coming across some major lagging issues inside of Chrome. Went over to boat browser and everything was fine. So in this specific case it isn't the hardwares fault. Just Google's fault in relation to Chrome.
 

ReanimationN

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Sep 7, 2011
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Ya, great specs for the price. But specs don't mean much if it still lags.

Most of the time it is fine, but just recently I was coming across some major lagging issues inside of Chrome. Went over to boat browser and everything was fine. So in this specific case it isn't the hardwares fault. Just Google's fault in relation to Chrome.

I'd agree with you 100%, that's why I sold my first gen N7 off, and it's seriously disappointing that it's still an issue with the second gen. It's, in my mind, unacceptable that a flagship tablet released in 2012-2013 lags. Some people don't care about it though, and for them, the N7's a fantastic deal.

And is Chrome still terrible? I thought they would have sorted that out by now. Definitely stick with Boat, it feels so much better than Chrome. Does YouTube still have that awful layout where you have to continually scroll down to see related videos and comments?
 

appledes7

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I'd agree with you 100%, that's why I sold my first gen N7 off, and it's seriously disappointing that it's still an issue with the second gen. It's, in my mind, unacceptable that a flagship tablet released in 2012-2013 lags. Some people don't care about it though, and for them, the N7's a fantastic deal.

And is Chrome still terrible? I thought they would have sorted that out by now. Definitely stick with Boat, it feels so much better than Chrome. Does YouTube still have that awful layout where you have to continually scroll down to see related videos and comments?

Ya I do no like Chrome on Android, but I love Chrome on iOS. It just feels like an unpolished product on Android, but feels so smooth and fluid on iOS.

I keep boat on my device as a backup. But I take advantage of open tabs on other devices that are running Chrome. So boat doesn't really fit that bill. Plus, I don't like how in boat you have to scroll ALL the way to the top to see the URL bar. In Chrome, wherever you are on a page, just scroll up a tiny bit and you can see the URL bar. But performance wise, boat kills Chrome.
 

jeffe

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I was going to start a thread with my own review but I'll just jump in here...

Never used an Android device before, so thought I'd try a Nexus 7. The screen is definately nice (love the color), but I just can't get used to the 16:10 7in display size. it makes a BIG difference, especially when those back, home, and multitask keys at the bottom take up even more of the screen space.

An example of this is below - the Nexus and Mini side by side showing the same page. I lined them up at the top not by bezels but by screens...

As for the OS itself - I can definately see how a certain segment of user would love to have the ability to change everything to make it their *own*, and I'm glad they have a product to help them do that, but I love the simpliticty, usuability, and dare I say class of iOS.


Valid points. I don't think I have ever browsed the web like that with my Nexus 7..I'm always in portrait mode as it just feels right that way. Landscape for videos all the way (buttons luckily disappear for that)
 

bidwalj

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Feb 16, 2007
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I have to agree with everything you said. I have the mini and bought the 16gb nexus 7 just to play around with. The experience isn't the same as the iPad mini, much more like a phone. Since its cheap with a great display and sound, it will great for dish anywhere or any other display type of activity. Won't be using it as my main device. Looking forward to a retina iPad mini now. Hopefully the screen of that is as bright and crisp as that of this nexus
 

surjavarman

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Nov 24, 2007
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False. The rmbp does not use a special anti-glare type of glass. Its just a regular glossy LCD screen but there is no additional layer of glass on top of the LCD screen. Its still glossy and you still see reflections.
 

appledes7

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Jul 12, 2011
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False. The rmbp does not use a special anti-glare type of glass. Its just a regular glossy LCD screen but there is no additional layer of glass on top of the LCD screen. Its still glossy and you still see reflections.

The rMBP includes a type of glass that decreases glare. Go research it.

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BlueGoldAce

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Oct 11, 2011
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I have to agree with everything you said. I have the mini and bought the 16gb nexus 7 just to play around with. The experience isn't the same as the iPad mini, much more like a phone. Since its cheap with a great display and sound, it will great for dish anywhere or any other display type of activity. Won't be using it as my main device. Looking forward to a retina iPad mini now. Hopefully the screen of that is as bright and crisp as that of this nexus

I have an ipad 3, ipad mini, and nexus 7 (2nd gen). The nexus 7 experience is superb. I think it is funny how people claim the nexus 7 is too "phone like" in its experience, when the ipad is exactly like an iphone only with more space for icons and a few added gestures.

Apps wise, I can see the disparity, but more and more apps on android are gaining the a unique tablet layout.
 

bidwalj

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Feb 16, 2007
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I have an ipad 3, ipad mini, and nexus 7 (2nd gen). The nexus 7 experience is superb. I think it is funny how people claim the nexus 7 is too "phone like" in its experience, when the ipad is exactly like an iphone only with more space for icons and a few added gestures.

Apps wise, I can see the disparity, but more and more apps on android are gaining the a unique tablet layout.

Maybe the UI looks similar to the iPhone but it doesn't function the same. Native and third party apps all look and behave different. The same can't be said for the nexus. The twitter app for an example is horrible.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Oct 11, 2011
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Maybe the UI looks similar to the iPhone but it doesn't function the same. Native and third party apps all look and behave different. The same can't be said for the nexus. The twitter app for an example is horrible.

The ui on the nexus may look similar but it functions different as well...

You are absolutely correct about the apps to a degree. A lot of 3rd party apps are slowly being updated to a tablet format, and as a result they look different...but ios has a current advantage on that, for now.
 

appledes7

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Jul 12, 2011
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when the ipad is exactly like an iphone only with more space for icons and a few added gestures.

HAHAHAHA and what do you think the Nexus 7 is?

The Nexus 7 is exactly that! Except to a smaller degree on both fronts you listed! And it has no tablet specific gestures!!

Most apps are just the phone versions scaled up. The screen size is at an awkward state since phone apps feel stretched and tablet apps feel squished.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 7. My review is pretty clear about that. But let's be honest, it is not a perfect device.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Oct 11, 2011
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I believe I stated that above in my second post.


It is not the perfect device, nor is any version of the iPad. It would be great if such device existed.
 

JackieInCo

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Jul 18, 2013
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HAHAHAHA and what do you think the Nexus 7 is?

The Nexus 7 is exactly that! Except to a smaller degree on both fronts you listed! And it has no tablet specific gestures!!

Most apps are just the phone versions scaled up. The screen size is at an awkward state since phone apps feel stretched and tablet apps feel squished.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 7. My review is pretty clear about that. But let's be honest, it is not a perfect device.

This is the truth. I have the first Nexus 7 but I don't think the new 7 is worth upgrading to. Maybe if more app devs start caring more and making actual tablet apps instead of relying on the OS to upscale the phone versions, I will consider upgrading.

I go to my iPad Mini when I use many of my apps because the iOS versions are actual tablet versions such as SiriusXM, AP News and several of my local apps such as the Denver Post, 9News and Bank of the West.

Then there are such apps like Traktor DJ that don't have an Android version because of latency issues with the Android OS.

A bonus of the Android platform is that flash (and other apps) can be side loaded which enabled me to do a few things that my Mini can't do.

All of the above apps are phone versions scaled up on the Android tablet.
 

Ddyracer

macrumors 68000
Nov 24, 2009
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Never used an Android device before, so thought I'd try a Nexus 7. The screen is definately nice (love the color), but I just can't get used to the 16:10 7in display size. it makes a BIG difference, especially when those back, home, and multitask keys at the bottom take up even more of the screen space.

Hey, if you root your nexus 7 there is an app called GMD Auto Hide which will hide the top menu and bottom soft buttons. That will help.
 

maxosx

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Dec 13, 2012
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As far as webrowsing goes on the N7, that's a problem with Most 16:10 devices.

My new 15" MBPr and 13" MBA have 16:10 displays. It's one of their best features. Other brands of laptops use 16:9 which requires much more scrolling.

I'll take 16:10 any day on any device. My Nexus 7.2 has a gorgeous display.

So does my iPad 4. Each form factor has its advantages.
 

surjavarman

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Nov 24, 2007
645
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The rMBP includes a type of glass that decreases glare. Go research it.

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OMG seriously?

Again false. The retina macbook pro just uses a regular LCD like in any other macbook pro but it doesn't use a cover glass. So there are less layers of glass on top of the LCD and thus glare is slightly reduced. Its still a glossy screen. And no special filters or powders are used to reduce glare. Seriously stop spreading false information

I see way more reflections on my rmbp than on my iphone 5. Would you say that the iphone 5 uses special powders and is a matte screen?
 

blackhand1001

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Jan 6, 2009
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Ya I do no like Chrome on Android, but I love Chrome on iOS. It just feels like an unpolished product on Android, but feels so smooth and fluid on iOS.

I keep boat on my device as a backup. But I take advantage of open tabs on other devices that are running Chrome. So boat doesn't really fit that bill. Plus, I don't like how in boat you have to scroll ALL the way to the top to see the URL bar. In Chrome, wherever you are on a page, just scroll up a tiny bit and you can see the URL bar. But performance wise, boat kills Chrome.

I have released a method on how to install the Stock android browser without needing root. Previously you needed root. It has working chrome bookmark sync, flash support, text wrapping, and the ability to select a user agent.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385928

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That's really disappointing that the 2nd gen is still laggy. That's what really killed the 1st gen for me. Still though, those are great specs and a killer screen for the price.

Its definitely not laggy at all. I haven't been able to slow this thing down at all. It doesn't have the occasional stuttering that the first generation nexus 7 had. That stuttering is caused by it wanting to run on the low power 5th companion core. (they seem to have great improved this in the 4.3 update though) The snapdragon in the new one does not have this issue.
 

appledes7

macrumors 6502a
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Jul 12, 2011
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OMG seriously?

Again false. The retina macbook pro just uses a regular LCD like in any other macbook pro but it doesn't use a cover glass. So there are less layers of glass on top of the LCD and thus glare is slightly reduced. Its still a glossy screen. And no special filters or powders are used to reduce glare. Seriously stop spreading false information

I see way more reflections on my rmbp than on my iphone 5. Would you say that the iphone 5 uses special powders and is a matte screen?

Go put the non retina MBP right next to the retina MBP. The rMBP has less glare. Simple fact.
 

surjavarman

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Nov 24, 2007
645
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Go put the non retina MBP right next to the retina MBP. The rMBP has less glare. Simple fact.

Wrong again. I can put a put a non retina MBP with a matte screen next to the rmbp and its the non retina MBP that will have less glare. Simple fact. You are wrong again.

But anyway the rMBP does have reduced glare when compared to another MBP with GLOSSY screen. I never denied that. But again that has nothing to do with "special" glass. How often do I have to repeat that?
 
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