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Do you use NFC?

  • yes

    Votes: 22 33.3%
  • no

    Votes: 44 66.7%

  • Total voters
    66

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Original poster
Jun 12, 2012
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do you use it on a regular basis, yes or no?

Just curious as to how many people use NFC and how they are using it. If you only have used it here and there and not consistently please vote no.
 

eawmp1

macrumors 601
Feb 19, 2008
4,159
91
FL
No (except with ID badge at work). The idea of having (in its current form) different fobs for different vendors on my key ring makes me shudder. As for the credit card chips, I use different cards, so I've not pursued it.

If vendors more widely adopt, and security issues worked out, I might welcome it on a phone.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
No (except with ID badge at work). The idea of having (in its current form) different fobs for different vendors on my key ring makes me shudder. As for the credit card chips, I use different cards, so I've not pursued it.

If vendors more widely adopt, and security issues worked out, I might welcome it on a phone.

Is security really an issue?

In a day where credit card security is such an issue I don't think there is much problem with using NFC.

I can take anyone's credit card and use it all day. A lot of places don't need signatures for less then 20 bucks (gas stations and convenient stores. And places that do rarely check the sig and if its a digital signature they never check it because its so sloppy.

Then it's so easy to steal the info any more from small gadgets on swipers and such.

NFC on a phone has a couple things going for it. One the info is sent digitally so no one can take a picture of the card and a cashier will never know the entire card number. Two, it requires a pin so if someone steals the phone you still can't use it. Three if very easy to know your phone is missing. Some people can go days/weeks before noticing a credit card is gone, that won't happen with a phone. Four, like a card you need direct contact it's not like the info is being blasted into the air more then a couple inches.

And although I'm not positive I read somewhere that the phone makes a connection with the device. So you are sending info to one place, if something intercepts the info you and the store will know. Don't know how true that is.
 

KentuckyHouse

macrumors 68030
Jan 29, 2010
2,723
998
Lexington, KY.
I would definitely use it if only the phone/software makers and businesses around the US would get their stuff together. But when you've got Google with one standard and AT&T now trying to get ISIS off the ground, it makes it a real pain in the rear.

One standard, one piece of software used...and I believe it would take off. But with all these competing interests, it's just stifling it's ability to get off the ground.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
7,467
5,097
As AT&T won't allow use of Google Wallet on my Note 2, I don't use it for payments however, I do have a few NFC tags set up in the house, car that I use to change settings configuration (wifi, Bluetooth, open certain apps, etc). They're certainly handy but find I don't really miss using them if I'm using my iPhone.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
It is used more and more in Europe, ask this question when Apple include it on their 5S or 6, it will then magically be useful, same as there is now two perfect sizes of phone to use one handed.:rolleyes:
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
It is used more and more in Europe, ask this question when Apple include it on their 5S or 6, it will then magically be useful, same as there is now two perfect sizes of phone to use one handed.:rolleyes:

Personally, I won't find a use for it until I can ditch my wallet full of cards in favor of my phone....

Until then, its pretty much the same amount of effort to pull out my credit card versus pulling out my phone.

Nothing to do with iOS vs Android really - though I do think Apple's adoption would hasten more widespread use in the US.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
4,885
1,877
Atlanta Ga
do you use it on a regular basis, yes or no?

Just curious as to how many people use NFC and how they are using it. If you only have used it here and there and not consistently please vote no.

Thanks for starting a new thread. I course I will say yes I do use it. Payments are the main use.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
Personally, I won't find a use for it until I can ditch my wallet full of cards in favor of my phone....

Until then, its pretty much the same amount of effort to pull out my credit card versus pulling out my phone.

Nothing to do with iOS vs Android really - though I do think Apple's adoption would hasten more widespread use in the US.

TBH, JR, I'm the same really. IMHO, it will happen (Or something along similar lines) I do hope that a single standard comes out.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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Atlanta Ga
Personally, I won't find a use for it until I can ditch my wallet full of cards in favor of my phone....

Until then, its pretty much the same amount of effort to pull out my credit card versus pulling out my phone.

Nothing to do with iOS vs Android really - though I do think Apple's adoption would hasten more widespread use in the US.

Well of course it would be used way more if Apple adopted it because there are millions upon millions of people using an iPhone. I just don't agree that the more things will be made to use NFC or anything like that. It is already big just maybe not as big in the US.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
It is used more and more in Europe, ask this question when Apple include it on their 5S or 6, it will then magically be useful, same as there is now two perfect sizes of phone to use one handed.:rolleyes:

Define Europe ? I thought the UK wanted out of it ;)

Here is Ireland I do not believe we have any NFC uses publicly. So no, here it isn't used.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
I use it about once every 2 weeks at the gas station near me. And randomly at drug stores like Rite Aid. Use it with the S3, but custom rom is required.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
TBH, JR, I'm the same really. IMHO, it will happen (Or something along similar lines) I do hope that a single standard comes out.

Ya I figure it will happen as well - I think the main obstacle with ditching a wallet - personally is ID (driver's license, SS card).

If I find NFC payments become more widespread I may start an experiment and see if I can go without my wallet. Maybe through some cash and my driver's license in a money clip or something much thinner than a wallet.....

Cash is another obstacle - I still find it necessary to carry at least SOME cash with me, if only because I always feel bad for not tipping a valet or being able to give someone less fortunate the cash in my wallet when I'm not carrying any.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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Atlanta Ga
Ya I figure it will happen as well - I think the main obstacle with ditching a wallet - personally is ID (driver's license, SS card).

If I find NFC payments become more widespread I may start an experiment and see if I can go without my wallet. Maybe through some cash and my driver's license in a money clip or something much thinner than a wallet.....

Cash is another obstacle - I still find it necessary to carry at least SOME cash with me, if only because I always feel bad for not tipping a valet or being able to give someone less fortunate the cash in my wallet when I'm not carrying any.

I don't know that we will ever be able to do without a wallet completely. As you said there is cash. Sure we have debit and credit cards, but cash will always be around and needed.
 

Assault

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2013
513
0
in the taint
I don't know that we will ever be able to do without a wallet completely. As you said there is cash. Sure we have debit and credit cards, but cash will always be around and needed.

Cash will become obsolete as the global economy pushes further into every individuals life. It is inevitable. A true global economy can not function on paper money. It is simply too slow of a process to transfer, print and destroy paper money, and coins cost more to make than their worth in some cases, causing the people billions of dollars per year. (Looking at you Mr. Penny).

I can go without a wallet every day of the week in California. NFC is accepted in lots of places I go, and while I still carry one credit card and some cash, just in case, I rarely need it. And I do believe that if Verizon and AT&T weren't fracking d#cks about Google Wallet, NFC would be more widespread already. Instead, we have a system supported by the carriers called ISIS, that is over budget, behind schedule and doesn't work.
If Apple does add NFC, it will grow in the US. Assuming the carriers allow it.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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Atlanta Ga
Cash will become obsolete as the global economy pushes further into every individuals life. It is inevitable. A true global economy can not function on paper money. It is simply too slow of a process to transfer, print and destroy paper money, and coins cost more to make than their worth in some cases, causing the people billions of dollars per year. (Looking at you Mr. Penny).

I can go without a wallet every day of the week in California. NFC is accepted in lots of places I go, and while I still carry one credit card and some cash, just in case, I rarely need it. And I do believe that if Verizon and AT&T weren't fracking d#cks about Google Wallet, NFC would be more widespread already. Instead, we have a system supported by the carriers called ISIS, that is over budget, behind schedule and doesn't work.
If Apple does add NFC, it will grow in the US. Assuming the carriers allow it.

OK sure whatever you say. I agree At&t and Verizon are screwing everything up with their stupid system. Just let google do their thing. Their systems will be no more secure than Google wallet is.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
I don't know that we will ever be able to do without a wallet completely. As you said there is cash. Sure we have debit and credit cards, but cash will always be around and needed.

I agree. Looking thru my wallet I have a few bucks plus my health and dental cards, random gift cards, gas card for work, bank ID card, drivers license, business cards.....

Regardless getting to my phone is always easier and faster. I like many people have trained myself to get to my phone much faster then my wallet just from it ringing all the time.
 
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TheHateMachine

macrumors 6502a
Sep 18, 2012
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1,354
When I had my GS3 I used it all the time. I have vending machines at work that take NFC, gas stations and various stores around my hospital's and home have the newer Credit Card readers with NFC tappers on the top.

However I got the Note 2 now and there is apparently a problem with Google Wallet and the Note 2. You can get it on there "unofficially" but it is very hit or miss.

As AT&T won't allow use of Google Wallet on my Note 2, I don't use it for payments however, I do have a few NFC tags set up in the house, car that I use to change settings configuration (wifi, Bluetooth, open certain apps, etc). They're certainly handy but find I don't really miss using them if I'm using my iPhone.

The issue is mainly with Google and Samsung from what I gather. You can unofficially sideload it but it is very inconsistent. You also need to add a couple of extra things to your phone including a Gwallet patch and a framework mod I used to have it on my Sprint Note 2 and it was not consistent at all. It would lose the cards occasionally and I could not re add them or it would fail to initialize altogether on the device.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
7,467
5,097
However I got the Note 2 now and there is apparently a problem with Google Wallet and the Note 2. You can get it on there "unofficially" but it is very hit or miss.

The issue is mainly with Google and Samsung from what I gather. You can unofficially sideload it but it is very inconsistent. You also need to add a couple of extra things to your phone including a Gwallet patch and a framework mod I used to have it on my Sprint Note 2 and it was not consistent at all. It would lose the cards occasionally and I could not re add them or it would fail to initialize altogether on the device.

Yeah, I looked into it but considering I would be using it very infrequently, wasn't worth the hassle.
 
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