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KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
Going to jump on the 3d on your TV garbage as well?

HD is a marketing tool, period.

HD is very noticeable. It's not a marketing tool at all, it provides true benefit in increased eye candy. It makes a good movie that much more enjoyable.

3D ? I couldn't even stand the 2 minutes I watched it at the store. I would constantly have problems keeping focus with the glasses. That is a fad and it's not ready.

You sound like someone who's jealous he can't afford an HDTV. They go for quite cheap nowadays you know. :rolleyes:
 

daleski75

macrumors 68000
Dec 10, 2008
1,992
473
Northampton, UK
What is the CPU usage like with 10.1/10.2 of flash? Reason why I am asking is on my Z11 (soon to be sold) playing a 1080p flash video gives around 15-25% cpu usage.

I know on the MBA it will be higher due to differences in cpu, graphics cards but how close does it come?

When I had the old MBA 2.13 flash sucked on it big time but back then it was the 10.1 beta of flash so I am assuming things have moved on a fair bit since then.
 

iKennett

macrumors 6502
Nov 22, 2007
293
0
I just checked out both Air models in an Apple store.
Really, really disappointing. Although the form and shape might
be tempting - really light, but the performance is a joke.
I understand the Intel-Apple-whoever legal issues, but they
shouldn't use the 4 years old processor in such a good (otherwise)
machine. A good screen, good keyboard, but no power.
Everything is sluggish and it doesn't even play the full HD videos.
The higher 13 model can not do it. The 11" model is even worse,
it's just a netbook.
Maybe with the 2.13GHz and 4GB of RAM is slightly better, but
they don't even have those models in the store, so no luck
checking it out.
They clearly are trying to attract your attention to the use
of flash instead of hard drives, but they forgot their OS X doesn't
support it fully....
If you need a small netbook to check out your email
and make some notes, it's good, But for anything even slightly
more demanding, skip it.

I'm a very pleased owner of the 11" 128GB MBA and while 1080P doesn't play smoothly it is only JUST! I have to disagree with what you have said from personal real world experience.
 

matrix07

macrumors G3
Jun 24, 2010
8,226
4,895
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

Did you check if they have Flash 10.1 installed & hardware acc. checked? If not, then your observation is useless.
 

racer1441

macrumors 68000
Jul 3, 2009
1,870
668
HD is very noticeable. It's not a marketing tool at all, it provides true benefit in increased eye candy. It makes a good movie that much more enjoyable.

3D ? I couldn't even stand the 2 minutes I watched it at the store. I would constantly have problems keeping focus with the glasses. That is a fad and it's not ready.

You sound like someone who's jealous he can't afford an HDTV. They go for quite cheap nowadays you know. :rolleyes:

Have a 60 inch Sanyo HDTV running 1020p in the living room and 3 32 Vizios running 720p in other rooms.

TV looks like TV no matter what. Even with 'hd' service or media.

Blueray is this generation's snake water. Want a bridge, I have one I can sell you.
 

hachre

macrumors 6502a
Sep 26, 2007
690
43
Have a 60 inch Sanyo HDTV running 1020p in the living room and 3 32 Vizios running 720p in other rooms.

TV looks like TV no matter what. Even with 'hd' service or media.

Blueray is this generation's snake water. Want a bridge, I have one I can sell you.

Get your eyes checked ;)
 

EthanNixon

macrumors 6502a
Sep 30, 2007
645
97
New Jersey
Have a 60 inch Sanyo HDTV running 1020p in the living room and 3 32 Vizios running 720p in other rooms.

TV looks like TV no matter what. Even with 'hd' service or media.

Blueray is this generation's snake water. Want a bridge, I have one I can sell you.

You really do need to get your eyes checked. Also, I don't know if 1020P exists. That might be your problem, trying to watch HD on a non-existant television.
 

racer1441

macrumors 68000
Jul 3, 2009
1,870
668
You really do need to get your eyes checked. Also, I don't know if 1020P exists. That might be your problem, trying to watch HD on a non-existant television.

typo 1080i.

It is all BS to sell TV's and "enhanced" services from providers.
 

EthanNixon

macrumors 6502a
Sep 30, 2007
645
97
New Jersey
typo 1080i.

It is all BS to sell TV's and "enhanced" services from providers.

It's not BS at all... I work for Best Buy and stare at TVs all day long. I can tell a distinct definition when looking at 720P, 1080i, and 1080P. Most broadcasting is done in 1080i, while some is done in 1080P.

Comparing standard definition which is 480P to 1080P is night and day. If you can't notice a difference, turn your computer monitor to 640x480 and you will notice a difference. It is the exact same with TVs. The "definition" is simply the resolution the TV is capable of displaying. If you aren't using the full potential of the TV, you will not see a difference.
 

dccorona

macrumors 68020
Jun 12, 2008
2,033
1
The higher 13 model can not do it. The 11" model is even worse,
it's just a netbook.

maybe the performance isnt what youd expect, but go find me a netbook not made by alienware that comes anywhere near this in terms of performance, and then if you do find one, let me know how clunky its designed and how great the battery is
 

dccorona

macrumors 68020
Jun 12, 2008
2,033
1
It's not BS at all... I work for Best Buy and stare at TVs all day long. I can tell a distinct definition when looking at 720P, 1080i, and 1080P. Most broadcasting is done in 1080i, while some is done in 1080P.

Comparing standard definition which is 480P to 1080P is night and day. If you can't notice a difference, turn your computer monitor to 640x480 and you will notice a difference. It is the exact same with TVs. The "definition" is simply the resolution the TV is capable of displaying. If you aren't using the full potential of the TV, you will not see a difference.

isnt "standard definition" below 480p?

i thought 480p was marketed as "enhanced definition"
 

ender21

macrumors 6502
Jul 15, 2010
308
63
Southern Cal
typo 1080i.

It is all BS to sell TV's and "enhanced" services from providers.

Of COURSE they're trying to sell you something! Bigger newer better doesn't come free. You're on an Apple forum. They're not known for being bargain purchases either so I would think you understand this already.

But just because media creators want to make a buck with 1080i/p doesn't mean that it isn't better than 480i on your old VHS tapes.

Methinks this is borderline attempts at provoking a response since you're just making blanket statements contrary to everyone else's without a shred of engaging thought to them.
 

ender21

macrumors 6502
Jul 15, 2010
308
63
Southern Cal
isnt "standard definition" below 480p?

i thought 480p was marketed as "enhanced definition"

SD is 480i or 480p. "Enhanced Definition" or EDTV, is 854x480, as opposed to the NTSC standard of 720x480. I don't recall any content ever really produced at that res, but early plasmas used it, as well as early upscaling DVD players.

/hijack. Sorry folks.
 

bjdraw

macrumors 6502a
Jan 24, 2008
605
17
Tampa FL
The resolution really isn't the issue or the question here.

The original MBA could easily handle 1080p for about 10 mins, which is when it would overheat and kick the CPUs down to 800Mhz then start dropping frames. And it would do this on 480p content too. The problem with an in-store test is standing there for 10 minutes and waiting for the heat to build up. I could reproduce it every time with 1080p content from Apple's trailer site on every MBA at my local Apple store. Which is why I sold my original MBA. I'd love to get another one if it doesn't exhibit this behavior, but I'm still a bit bitter from the first go around.
 
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