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What is newer? I’ve seen S7, 8 and 9 with burn in. So maybe S10? Seems typical to me. How many devices do you get to see and use on a regular basis? Myself, I get to see and use over 200. A small sampling of a much larger whole but more than most.



You can’t see the burn in because it’s on a lighter background. Throw up a darker background and it’s there. I assure you.



Either way, you’re free to have an always on display. I prefer not to.


I’ve owned over 100 phones since the old bag phone days. Many of them with OLED displays.

I’ve NEVER had one with burn in. Never.
 
I’ve owned over 100 phones since the old bag phone days. Many of them with OLED displays.

I’ve NEVER had one with burn in. Never.

Owning over 100 phones is one thing but how many of those phones had a variant of an oled screen? What was your first phone with oled?
 
Owning over 100 phones is one thing but how many of those phones had a variant of an oled screen? What was your first phone with oled?

The original Galaxy S. So yeah, I go back pretty far with OLED. Also owned the 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8. None of them experienced burn in. Also had variants of the Nexus phones with OLED. No burn in.
 
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The original Galaxy S. So yeah, I go back pretty far with OLED. Also owned the 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8. None of them experienced burn in. Also had variants of the Nexus phones with OLED. No burn in.
That's lucky for you. We have a fleet of salesmen who had S7's, and dozens of them have home screen icon burn in, and its bad enough that we needed to upgrade them to something newer.
 
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Technically the display is always on, it just has all of the pixels turned off. This is why you can tap the display and it lights up, while LCDs actually fully turn off and require a button. I think?
New iPP has LCD and you can do tap to wake...
 
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I tried AOD on the XS Max with Jailbreak and after a while i found it kind of useless. it was cool for the first day or so but then it was just meh.... Plus it gave me slight anxiety to have the screen constantly on... .I know there was very minuscule battery drain with the OLED but still something about it felt off.... Perhaps because I was used to so many years of a black screen idk.
Yeah. I had a period when I opened Facebook messenger on my Mac and even if I turned iPhone notification for messenger off, I still tend to constantly check messenger just to see if there was any new message coming in. It was a stressful experience and luckily I am away from that now.
People should really stop constantly checking their phone and focus on whatever it is critical at hand a bit longer.
 
I have had a Galaxy S7 and my sister has also had one since 2016, and I also had a Motorola Droid phone in 2014 that had AOD. The Galaxy S7 has burn in on the status bar because the way Android 6 had an always white status bar (they fixed this in Android 7). I have AOD on all the time on it and did extensive tests to try to get rid of the status bar burn in, and there is NO burn in from AOD for sure. They must have had defective screens.

Anyways, I use this all the time for the time and to see if I got any notifications while it’s on the table. It’s definitely useful and sucks to see they haven’t added it.

Some people won’t care about it of course just like I don’t care about features that other people like, but there are a lot that would find it very useful.
 
I had a Nokia Lumia 900 when I tried Windows phone on a lark about 5 years ago. It had the always on display and it was my favorite feature.

Why would you want it always on?? Seriously?

During the day, I was the only one that could see live notification updates on the screen (I had it set to only show work emails and texts coming through when "locked") and it always showed the time.

At night when on it's charging stand I had, it would go into "clock" mode and I could see what time it was simply by rolling over. The brightness level could be set so low that you would never even notice it unless you looked at it. Just being able to look at my phone and see any updates/time was probably the best feature.

And no burn in or affect on battery in my experience...at all!
 
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Imo AoD is overhyped. I used to have them on on my Galaxy A5, and sure, it was fun for like a few days, then I simply turn it off since it does affect battery life. There's a reason in its power saving mode, AoD is turned off. On my Galaxy A8, I only enable it to turn on when I touch the screen. You might say it is useful for notification, but there are so many notifications on a modern smartphone with various apps that imo the AoD becomes limited. I might as well turn the screen on and get better view of my notifications.

As for iPhone, personally I don't feel AoD is that needed as there's raise to wake. Also, if you own an AW, then AoD is redundant.
 
Imo AoD is overhyped. I used to have them on on my Galaxy A5, and sure, it was fun for like a few days, then I simply turn it off since it does affect battery life. There's a reason in its power saving mode, AoD is turned off. On my Galaxy A8, I only enable it to turn on when I touch the screen. You might say it is useful for notification, but there are so many notifications on a modern smartphone with various apps that imo the AoD becomes limited. I might as well turn the screen on and get better view of my notifications.

As for iPhone, personally I don't feel AoD is that needed as there's raise to wake. Also, if you own an AW, then AoD is redundant.

It's not necessarily the function as you correctly state. Every phone gives you notifications...it's HOW it handles it.

When someone gets an email, text, Snap Chat, whatever...everyone can see that when their phone suddenly lights up with a big notification bubble. The same is true at night or at best, you have to tap/lift your phone to see.

AWO was so subtle...that's what made it so nice.
 
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I've always liked the way Samsung shows the clock with notifications on the front facing display. That said, I don't feel I'm missing anything. The raise to wake on my iPhone does more than enough for me when I need to see things.

That said, I'd love a slightly gray, barely visible always on clock with a few notifications.

I do own an AW so I am affected by that - absolutely love it. Wish that had an always on time as well - barely visible - I'd take the hit on battery life.
 
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This sounds like a cool feature, but I would hope that it uses the proximity sensor to turn it off if the phone is face-down or in your pocket!
 
I’ve owned over 100 phones since the old bag phone days. Many of them with OLED displays.

I’ve NEVER had one with burn in. Never.

31 years of cell phones being commercially available so it would appear you on average go through about 4 to 5 a year over the last 15 years (accounting for them not having many variants until about 1998).....seems like not at all a gross exaggeration.

I personally have owned some phones in my 41 years and have experienced burn in but I am guessing because my opinion and experience is different then yours it is incorrect.
 
31 years of cell phones being commercially available so it would appear you on average go through about 4 to 5 a year over the last 15 years (accounting for them not having many variants until about 1998).....seems like not at all a gross exaggeration.

I personally have owned some phones in my 41 years and have experienced burn in but I am guessing because my opinion and experience is different then yours it is incorrect.

No exaggeration at all. Sometimes I would get bored in a month or two and sell and buy a different phone. Over the years, that adds up. So yes, I’ve owned and used well over 100 different cell phones.
 
No exaggeration at all. Sometimes I would get bored in a month or two and sell and buy a different phone. Over the years, that adds up. So yes, I’ve owned and used well over 100 different cell phones.

That explains that you never experienced burn in: You just did not own them long enough :)
 
I'm confused. The screen will stay on as long as you're using it or watching something. Why would you want your screen to stay on when you're not using your phone?

It makes for a great bedside clock. That's how I use it on my Pixel 3 ... If my iPhone Xs Max could do it, that would be a great bedside clock.
 
So , Apple, your telling me that there is NO fn always on Display Option? Is this damn true???

There's never been an AOD with iPhones. Apple has never talked about it. They've never suggested they were thinking about it, or that one is coming. Not sure where the shock is coming from... there has literally been zero expectation of an AOD.

I also think the usefulness of one, especially when weighed against the potential problems, makes it not much of a win. If Apple does one, will I be upset? No. They won't do it unless the problems with it have been mitigated or removed, so I'd give it a shot if/when it happens.

Reasons I don't see it happening soon:
  1. The phone display already wakes up the instant I pick it up, or pull it out of my pocket, or tap it with a finger. The overwhelming majority of the time I go to interact with my phone, the screen is already on by the time I'm looking at it ... having it in some kind of 'on' mode 24x7 won't buy me much extra usability over current behavior.
  2. AOD will increase pressure on the battery. These screens aren't digital paper, there are actual pixels being lit up, which takes power, which causes drain on the battery that would otherwise not be there.
  3. When you compare the number of voices raised in support of "give us more battery life!" vs "give us an AOD (that will work against battery life)", the tip of the scales is dramatic: far, far, FAR more people would vote for more battery life rather than get a feature they may not benefit much from that will actually drain the battery more than if that feature weren't there.
  4. Potential burn in. Yes, people bring up things like pixel shifting or transition the location of where the 'on' data is displayed on an AOD, etc, but the risk is still there, there's a fair bit of engineering work involved to try to avoid/reduce it, and again, it doesn't create a compelling enough addition to the user experience to warrant the effort and risk.
Again, I'm not saying I won't try it out if it ever shows up in iOS/iPhone, just that I don't see a strong reason for Apple to add it, especially in the face of the potential problems I listed above and when considering it would run at cross-purposes with one of the biggest desires of the user base: better battery life.
 
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During my brief stint with the S10+ I found the AOD pointless and distracting. I don't want my phone's screen on when I'm not using it. YMMV.
 
I've never seen AOD burn in on any Samsung phone, including my own S7... the pixels shift throughout the day so they're never static. And battery life is way better doing AOD on OLED over LCD.

https://twitter.com/ZacksJerryRig/status/1133878968313008128
:rolleyes:

and before anyone comes in and say this is not from AOD, well are you living in perfect world that software doesn't have bugs? Who knows how well it will perform a year from now. Once the screen stuck and you didn't notice then voila!

I'm glad that Apple philosophy is to want you to focus less on phone screen, by not have this feature or by having Apple Watch, and I'm glad there's no useless feature like this on phone that screen can be burnt in which my wife can accidentally turn on. But on the other hand, on Apple Watch however this feature is truly needed.
 
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