Why kill the messenger who paints a clear, true picture?
We top of the line Mac purchasers, along with third party component suppliers, are what has made Apple computers relevant for more extended periods of time. When Apple diminishes or takes away our ability to do that, then Apple's products become disposables.
I’ve seen nothing in any of MVC’s posts anywhere were he’s stated that Apple could not release GPU or any other component upgrades for any of its computers, including especially the "new" MacPro6,1. I still own working Power PC/Power Macintosh 8100/80s, 8500/120s, 7500/100s, 9600/200s, Power Mac G4s, Power Mac G5s, 2007 MacPros, and a 2009 MacPro, all of which I’ve upgraded to be significantly more powerful than when Apple released them, but always with the assistance of third party vendors and component suppliers.*/ That has been the history of my long journey through Mac world. Apple has never had any reliable history of supplying Mac users with upgrade options, other than at the time of, or shortly after, initial release of the Apple computer. Moreover, as to the ultimate source of Apples past graphic card upgrades (few that they have been), they have been easy, user upgradeable releases of graphic cards in the same form factory as that of the general computing industry. I’ve seen nothing in Apple’s history that would provide anyone with credible support to believe that Apple will ever release GPU upgrades for the MacPro6,1. But I have seen Apple's history and that speaks volumes. Could Apple do so? Most assuredly the answer is, and as it has always been, “Yes,” even as to the MacPro 2013’s predecessors. But the more important question is: Will (or is it likely that) Apple will do so? History matters. If you own a MacPro 2013 or are intending to purchase one, I believe that is what MVP has been and still is now saying to you, but now with more compelling support, is that what you see is basically all that you’ll get from that Apple product. If you're happy with that and will continue continue to be happy with that, then so be it. However, if you want more than what you see, then that’s, as it has historically been, left up to your own ingenuity {this is supported by the overwhelming majority of topics covered in vast majority of threads in this forum} or you have to buy the then current one, if any. So when you buy top of the line Mac, you either live or die with it based on your continued contentment, ability to buy the next great new thing if any or your ability to do your own upgrades using third party components. The same applies to the middle and bottom of the Apple line. It’s just that if or when contentment ends and the upgrade components are not like what you can order from Newegg, Amazon, Ebay, etc., then you’re SOL, unless you pony up the doe to pay the piper for another full ride. Recent history has made Apple acutely aware that significantly large numbers of technology consumers are content to pay for another full ride. Thus, selling disposability isn't such a bad attribute if a company would dare to surprise the foretellers of it's imminent demise and best Exxon Mobil.
As a long-term and long-time Apple shareholder, I like where Apple is headed in terms of selling disposable, non-user upgradeable, everything. However, as a power user, lets just say I'm fully content to still own as my most powerful Apple computer my 2009 MacPro that I've been modifying and upgrading since 2009. Apple's Westmere and Nehalem computers are some of the highest quality computers ever made. In fact, I'm in the process of upgrading them right now using upgrade components I ordered from Newegg, Amazon, Ebay, and elsewhere. Not everyone's needs or desires are the same as mine, luckily for me. In fact, the more others have fallen head-over-heels in love with the 2013 MacPro, the better for me. My hope is that they please passionately convert non-MacPro 2013 owners to board the new MacPro ship.
Those who would kill the messenger who paints a clear, true picture, make me hear," ka-ching! ka-ching! ka-ching!" If I were were MVP, I'd take continued questioning of my motives as music to my ears and as a timer to buy more Apple stock.
*/ I also own a flower power and orange iMacs and a Lisa, but the Lisa has called it quits.
I'm still unclear on the logic as well. Not that I think Apple will introduce a GPU upgrade option (although it's not completely out of the question), but if they did, then sure, they'd just have a firmware update. Now, if the point was that Apple will never issue a new firmware option for the nMP because they lost the source code or something, then I'd buy that argument, since they still haven't updated the nMP firmware to show bootscreens for 4K SST displays
We top of the line Mac purchasers, along with third party component suppliers, are what has made Apple computers relevant for more extended periods of time. When Apple diminishes or takes away our ability to do that, then Apple's products become disposables.
I’ve seen nothing in any of MVC’s posts anywhere were he’s stated that Apple could not release GPU or any other component upgrades for any of its computers, including especially the "new" MacPro6,1. I still own working Power PC/Power Macintosh 8100/80s, 8500/120s, 7500/100s, 9600/200s, Power Mac G4s, Power Mac G5s, 2007 MacPros, and a 2009 MacPro, all of which I’ve upgraded to be significantly more powerful than when Apple released them, but always with the assistance of third party vendors and component suppliers.*/ That has been the history of my long journey through Mac world. Apple has never had any reliable history of supplying Mac users with upgrade options, other than at the time of, or shortly after, initial release of the Apple computer. Moreover, as to the ultimate source of Apples past graphic card upgrades (few that they have been), they have been easy, user upgradeable releases of graphic cards in the same form factory as that of the general computing industry. I’ve seen nothing in Apple’s history that would provide anyone with credible support to believe that Apple will ever release GPU upgrades for the MacPro6,1. But I have seen Apple's history and that speaks volumes. Could Apple do so? Most assuredly the answer is, and as it has always been, “Yes,” even as to the MacPro 2013’s predecessors. But the more important question is: Will (or is it likely that) Apple will do so? History matters. If you own a MacPro 2013 or are intending to purchase one, I believe that is what MVP has been and still is now saying to you, but now with more compelling support, is that what you see is basically all that you’ll get from that Apple product. If you're happy with that and will continue continue to be happy with that, then so be it. However, if you want more than what you see, then that’s, as it has historically been, left up to your own ingenuity {this is supported by the overwhelming majority of topics covered in vast majority of threads in this forum} or you have to buy the then current one, if any. So when you buy top of the line Mac, you either live or die with it based on your continued contentment, ability to buy the next great new thing if any or your ability to do your own upgrades using third party components. The same applies to the middle and bottom of the Apple line. It’s just that if or when contentment ends and the upgrade components are not like what you can order from Newegg, Amazon, Ebay, etc., then you’re SOL, unless you pony up the doe to pay the piper for another full ride. Recent history has made Apple acutely aware that significantly large numbers of technology consumers are content to pay for another full ride. Thus, selling disposability isn't such a bad attribute if a company would dare to surprise the foretellers of it's imminent demise and best Exxon Mobil.
As a long-term and long-time Apple shareholder, I like where Apple is headed in terms of selling disposable, non-user upgradeable, everything. However, as a power user, lets just say I'm fully content to still own as my most powerful Apple computer my 2009 MacPro that I've been modifying and upgrading since 2009. Apple's Westmere and Nehalem computers are some of the highest quality computers ever made. In fact, I'm in the process of upgrading them right now using upgrade components I ordered from Newegg, Amazon, Ebay, and elsewhere. Not everyone's needs or desires are the same as mine, luckily for me. In fact, the more others have fallen head-over-heels in love with the 2013 MacPro, the better for me. My hope is that they please passionately convert non-MacPro 2013 owners to board the new MacPro ship.
Those who would kill the messenger who paints a clear, true picture, make me hear," ka-ching! ka-ching! ka-ching!" If I were were MVP, I'd take continued questioning of my motives as music to my ears and as a timer to buy more Apple stock.
*/ I also own a flower power and orange iMacs and a Lisa, but the Lisa has called it quits.
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