iPad Pro No H.265 support No Dolby Vision

[Lobwedgephil]

It looks great, but is not true HDR, I for one don't really care, as it looks fantastic to me. But the only way to get true HDR, is to connect to a HDR capable display.

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And the quality of the pixels on the iPad Pro display is terrific. They're once again DCI P3, which means you get the much wider color gamut for richer reds and more vivid greens. But at 600 nits, it's still not quite bright enough for full HDR — high dynamic range — like the over 700 nits iPhone X Series. At least not completely.

If you're sitting in the pitch dark, the color space and brightness will get you most of the way there. If you're sitting out in the light, not so much. Some people quibble about all this. Apple seems to have simply settled into calling it EDR — extended dynamic range — instead.

Now, you can still download or stream HDR10 and Dolby Vision formats and it'll do a bang-up job displaying them, regardless of where or how you're watching, but the only way to get what everyone agrees is full-on, proper HDR is to use the new USB-C port — more on that in a cool minute — to output HDR10 or Dolby Vision to a full-on, proper HDR panel.

 

[donster28]

I don’t know if the iPad 10.5 plays true hdr, but definitely the iPad Pro 11 the hdr is better than the 10.5. I made a comparison, left is the 10.5. I don’t know if the pictures are good to justify, but with the naked eye even my wife that doesn’t understand technology she is preferring the colors of the iPad Pro 11.

It's not the colours you should compare (the new iPads have even better Wide Colour Gamut) but the brightness of the highlights in a scene...like the headlights of a car. HDR emphasizes these and gives them a more lifelike quality...like a car on high beams shining in your face.

Nevertheless, the highlights both look similar in your comparison with the 10.5 slightly besting the 11 in brightness on all of the attached pictures.
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Now, you can still download or stream HDR10 and Dolby Vision formats and it'll do a bang-up job displaying them, regardless of where or how you're watching, but the only way to get what everyone agrees is full-on, proper HDR is to use the new USB-C port — more on that in a cool minute — to output HDR10 or Dolby Vision to a full-on, proper HDR panel.

I agree with you but before connecting anything, I'd rather just use an Apple TV on my OLED TV.

 

[Lobwedgephil]

I agree with you but before connecting anything, I'd rather just use an Apple TV on my OLED TV.

Same for me.

 

[Jensend]

If you're sitting in the pitch dark, the color space and brightness will get you most of the way there.

If you’re in the dark, you’ll notice that the black level is horrible, unless the iPad decides to turn down the backlight and artificially brighten the picture, causing blown out highlights.

See https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...pad-pro-held-back-by-software-tricks.2053839/ for an example.

 

[donster28]

If you’re in the dark, you’ll notice that the black level is horrible, unless the iPad decides to turn down the backlight and artificially brighten the picture, causing blown out highlights.

See https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...pad-pro-held-back-by-software-tricks.2053839/ for an example.

This is not Apple trickery, it’s the quality of the LCD screen used. Furthermore, the iPads don’t have ‘local dimming’ that would have eliminated this problem. An OLED would have also helped, but we all know that’s wishful thinking right now.

 

[Jensend]

This is not Apple trickery, it’s the quality of the LCD screen used. Furthermore, the iPads don’t have ‘local dimming’ that would have eliminated this problem. An OLED would have also helped, but we all know that’s wishful thinking right now.

It is Apple trickery. It’s sacrificing highlight detail for perceived contrast and/or increased battery life

 

[donster28]

It is Apple trickery. It’s sacrificing highlight detail for perceived contrast and/or increased battery life

Whatever you say...should we call Consumer Services?

 

[Jensend]

Whatever you say...should we call Consumer Services?

It should be an option. I expect crap like that from TV’s on display at a store, not from Apple.

 

[threeonthetree]

Regardless what everyone say with iPad Pro not needing HDR, watch them change their tune when Apple releases a screen next year that truly supports HDR and Dolby Vision

 

[AutomaticApple]

I found it odd that Apple went out of their way to leave out HDR10 and Dolby Vision support.
On top of that Apple has hidden or suppressed the old 10.5 Pro features page which I know mentioned HDR10 and Dolby Vison support.

So I looked all the way down at supported Codecs on the new 2018 iPad Pro page.

And there is no H.265 support. So to me that means No Dolby Vision support or HLG or Dynamic HDR.

If true this is a huge set back for display quality.

That’s a surprise!

 

[Perene]

What is this thing about not supporting H.265? Hasn't iOS 11 introduced this support, along with the A9X CPUs?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/a10-chip-for-4k-playback.2140416/

In this thread the user says an old iPP 12.9 (2015, 1st gen) which uses the A9X chip can play a 4K video...

Or do you mean no support in specific apps and other kinds of videos?

I am talking about a Matroska file, direct-rip (lossless) from a Ultra-HD-Blu-ray (4K/2160p).

P.S. According to this review the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey is using Dolby Vision + HDR10:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-4K-Blu-ray/224350/#Review

At least in my IPP 10.5 I don't remember having any issues with the file.

 

[Robertjan88]

No

Yes

 

[Tapiture]

Correct me if I’m wrong but HLG and HDR 10 are pretty much as good as Dolby Vision, right? But it doesn’t have any of them?

 

[Robertjan88]

I found it odd that Apple went out of their way to leave out HDR10 and Dolby Vision support.
On top of that Apple has hidden or suppressed the old 10.5 Pro features page which I know mentioned HDR10 and Dolby Vison support.

So I looked all the way down at supported Codecs on the new 2018 iPad Pro page.

And there is no H.265 support. So to me that means No Dolby Vision support or HLG or Dynamic HDR.

If true this is a huge set back for display quality.

The iPad Pro 2018 DOES support H265 and X265. It also supports playback of HDR content. When playing HDR content the contact is looking A LOT better than playing the same content in SD format.

To those who are posting in this topic: please stop confusing people and try it out for yourself before commenting ;-)

 

[Bravia3d]

Personally, I could careless. Screen looks damn good to me.

I downloaded Mad Max in 4K with HDR, massive 15gb file and it looked amazing. The video was so clear, bright and stunning. Sound was good too!

 

[Jensend]

Regardless what everyone say with iPad Pro not needing HDR, watch them change their tune when Apple releases a screen next year that truly supports HDR and Dolby Vision

Apple won’t. As far as I know, the only feasible way to truly support HDR in a device as thin and light as an iPad is to use an OLED screeen. There have been no rumors pointing to them doing that. It is such a significant change that I think we’d get rumors fairly early.

It would be great if the iPad could support “true” HDR. But I’m not all that interested in pseudo-HDR.