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No More Hulu on Boxee
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Disappointing, but not surprising. These content DINOSAURS (not providers) really should just quit. After all, they don't want anyone to actually SEE the crap they spew.
For the record, I dislike Boxee. I find it slow and clunky and the AppleTV version, frankly, is abysmal. (Though it runs plenty slow on a high-end iMac too.)
However I do find it amazing, particularly in these economic times, that these DINOSAURS still can't figure out that MORE folks WATCHING their junk equals more cash for them. After all, Boxee streamed the Hulu feed -- commercials and all. More views, more dollars. I don't see how they can be so stupid...
For the record, I dislike Boxee. I find it slow and clunky and the AppleTV version, frankly, is abysmal. (Though it runs plenty slow on a high-end iMac too.)
However I do find it amazing, particularly in these economic times, that these DINOSAURS still can't figure out that MORE folks WATCHING their junk equals more cash for them. After all, Boxee streamed the Hulu feed -- commercials and all. More views, more dollars. I don't see how they can be so stupid...
Yes, because someone else would come in a produce a Lost or a 24 or Fringe and start producing quality of this scope....
Sure. Maybe we can open source a Lost and let the free as in beer and speech do it.
Moronic things like Dancing with the Stars and, 12 year humor like South park (since the animation on that is such dog poop it seems ripe for flash
) might be something the Internets could produce, that's for sure.Let's hope they reverse their decision after this uproar. I have a feeling they did not anticipate the backlash and what will happen is that Boxee (and their cotnent partners) will get Hulu shares for their company.
making everyone as happy as clams...
I think there are two possibilities here.
1. Networks see more profit in their traditional modes of distribution or...
2. ... Apple has something up their sleeves.
Since Hulu lives while Boxee integration died, I can't help but wonder if part of the reason is Apple considering coming out with a subscription TV service of their own, direct Hulu integration, or a Hulu app for an Apple TV app store.
At least I hope that's the case.
1. Networks see more profit in their traditional modes of distribution or...
2. ... Apple has something up their sleeves.
Since Hulu lives while Boxee integration died, I can't help but wonder if part of the reason is Apple considering coming out with a subscription TV service of their own, direct Hulu integration, or a Hulu app for an Apple TV app store.
At least I hope that's the case.
I think this is a simple case of content being used in an unexpected way and that has the content providers running scared. Piracy exists despite what they have done to "legal" alternatives like Boxee, but remember that content providers still have contracts with cable/satellite TV to worry about too.
People will watch what they want to watch no matter the source they get their media from. Some of us are sick of putting up with the asinine restrictions the content providers put on media (24 hour rentals for $4.99/7 days to start watching etc etc).
I'll stick to Netflix for now as they're my cheapest option. I will consider content from Apple when the prices come down by 50 - 60%.
This is frustrating. I just got my AppleTV, patchsticked it, and have been enjoying Boxee/Hulu for no more than a week.
What is the real problem here? Hulu is an internet sight. AppleTV (or anything running Boxee) is a computer. And these are the foundations of the digital age, the way forward. Hulu should applaud Boxee for making their content available to *more* viewers, not scolding them and taking away their hard work.
The movie and TV industry is waiting to be turned on it's head just like what happened to music ~6 years ago
What is the real problem here? Hulu is an internet sight. AppleTV (or anything running Boxee) is a computer. And these are the foundations of the digital age, the way forward. Hulu should applaud Boxee for making their content available to *more* viewers, not scolding them and taking away their hard work.
The movie and TV industry is waiting to be turned on it's head just like what happened to music ~6 years ago
PLEASE!!!! DIRECT ALL OF YOUR FRUSTRATION TO HULU.
feedback@hulu.com
(Note: Some are saying that Hulu is not at fault here, that it's the content providers. While it is the fault of the providers (NBC, Fox, etc.) these providers are the ones funding and maintaining Hulu. So in the end, it's really only the handful of techs running Hulu that are free of fault.)
feedback@hulu.com
(Note: Some are saying that Hulu is not at fault here, that it's the content providers. While it is the fault of the providers (NBC, Fox, etc.) these providers are the ones funding and maintaining Hulu. So in the end, it's really only the handful of techs running Hulu that are free of fault.)
Sad. I'm no fan of the AppleTV, but I think this stinks. Content providers think they got us by the balls. Shame on you Hulu.
If your a Neilsen viewer, this March, tell 'em you only watched PBS, 24/7. Send the message to these content providers that without viewers, they won't make a dime.
If your a Neilsen viewer, this March, tell 'em you only watched PBS, 24/7. Send the message to these content providers that without viewers, they won't make a dime.
Stupid
Back to DVR and PirateBay, where I can skip the commercials and get HD 720p versions. Stupid media companies, cutting out users, and not innovating at all. So are they all going to come out with movie stores? like everyone copying iTunes and the App store? I have never gone to the HULU website outside of Boxee and don't plan on it.
Back to DVR and PirateBay, where I can skip the commercials and get HD 720p versions. Stupid media companies, cutting out users, and not innovating at all. So are they all going to come out with movie stores? like everyone copying iTunes and the App store? I have never gone to the HULU website outside of Boxee and don't plan on it.
It is worth remembering that sometimes content providers do "get it", but they just don't have the rights to offer (and yes, steaming to different devices can be different rights depending on the original contract). I've been dealing with a US studio over licencing rights for a long running show there for online distribution. They can't do it, because they didn't take any online transmission rights from the writers, actors, directors or musicians involved in the first place. This show has been running for nearly a decade now, and just the adminstration work from going back and contacting all of those (thousands of) people and obtaining formal legal permission (assuming they don't want any more money, which they will) will cost more than I'll pay the studio in revenue in a hundred years.
It's unfortunate, but it doesn't make any sense for a studio to lose money on this - heck, even people stealing the show on Bittorrent doesn't *cost* money, it just doesn't make any. They'd be negligent to shareholders to deliberately lose cash.
Phazer
when i first started to use boxee..i said to myself...hmm this is a little too good to be true...being able to watch tv shows and such through boxee via hulu. Now granted, there are commercials inserted within the shows but i am guessing the amount of money the tv companies get from that is alot less than other venues. Also if i was nbc, I would want people to watch heroes or any other show (for free or advertisements) via nbc.com, that way i can also get some advertising money from more traffic on that site. or maybe hulu can grant a license for third parties like boxee (where will boxee get the money though)
Granted, the quality of hulu on boxee wasnt perfect...but where else could you watch Sliders or Alf on full screen TV and not on a little computer.
at least boxee still has revision3. i need my diggnation.
Granted, the quality of hulu on boxee wasnt perfect...but where else could you watch Sliders or Alf on full screen TV and not on a little computer.
at least boxee still has revision3. i need my diggnation.
It's my belief that when content producers/distributors/purveyers make it difficult for the end user to obtain high quality digital media (not higly compressed, low bitrate, low rez web drek) at an affordable price, they give up their right to complain when the end user obtains their media through alternative means.
There's obviously a demand, so it's up to the business to figure out a way to meet it. It's their job to sell media. It's our job to buy it. If they don't do their job, then we can't do ours.
Like Phazer said, sometimes the roadblocks are out of the control of the purveyers. However, these things are reasons, not excuses. If the system doesn't work, then the system needs to be changed.
An unauthorized download might not represent a loss, but neither does it represent a gain. I'm sure that McDonalds would prefer to sell me a hamburger than have me make one at home.
John
There's obviously a demand, so it's up to the business to figure out a way to meet it. It's their job to sell media. It's our job to buy it. If they don't do their job, then we can't do ours.
Like Phazer said, sometimes the roadblocks are out of the control of the purveyers. However, these things are reasons, not excuses. If the system doesn't work, then the system needs to be changed.
An unauthorized download might not represent a loss, but neither does it represent a gain. I'm sure that McDonalds would prefer to sell me a hamburger than have me make one at home.
John
hulu on boxee sucks anyway......the only reason i use boxee is to stream my avi's and i got a boxee remote from cydia that works great....if i want to watch lost or something on tv i just dvr it...
speak for yourself, worked fine for me! I loved watching old TV shows on boxee/hulu on my TV
So, we'll be losing NBC and FOX, keeping CBS and gaining ABC. This just means I have to watch Family Guy on sunday nights, instead of when I want to via Clear QAM. The thing I liked hulu for was being able to watch old shows.
The studio licensing model is a huge, HUGE mess. Its far worse than the music licensing model. I bet a larger portion, of even the STUDIOS actually WANT hulu on boxee. They simply can't because of the spaghetti ball that is current licensing and law. It will take take for the Studios to start using newer contract models to filter through the system.
Hulu will most likely be back at some point, but it could be a while...
...In the meantime, I hate to say it, but why care? 24? Lost? Sorry folks, these shows are trash. There is virtually NO good shows on TV right now. BSG is probably the only one (and even that went way downhill this season).
Maybe if everyone screams loud enough, the studios will relent ala Facebook.
I have a bad feeling however, unless Boxee can get netflix streaming REALLY well on the ATV, this will pretty much be a death sentence for Boxee...too bad...they are a great group of guys...
The studio licensing model is a huge, HUGE mess. Its far worse than the music licensing model. I bet a larger portion, of even the STUDIOS actually WANT hulu on boxee. They simply can't because of the spaghetti ball that is current licensing and law. It will take take for the Studios to start using newer contract models to filter through the system.
Hulu will most likely be back at some point, but it could be a while...
...In the meantime, I hate to say it, but why care? 24? Lost? Sorry folks, these shows are trash. There is virtually NO good shows on TV right now. BSG is probably the only one (and even that went way downhill this season).
Maybe if everyone screams loud enough, the studios will relent ala Facebook.
I have a bad feeling however, unless Boxee can get netflix streaming REALLY well on the ATV, this will pretty much be a death sentence for Boxee...too bad...they are a great group of guys...
