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d3t

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Jul 7, 2015
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Guess what just came in the mail today :D


Thanks all for the reviews and impressions of link bands! The video was awesome! I ordered mine from Utica. According to the pics, it has a different clasp but otherwise, I hope the quality is as nice as the bands posted !
 

Tmelon

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Feb 26, 2011
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Has anyone who ordered the Milanese band from Inkoo88 got any tracking info yet?
 

JerTheGeek

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May 15, 2014
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Has anyone who ordered the Milanese band from Inkoo88 got any tracking info yet?
Ordered the ML Saturday night. Says its shipped but no tracking. Estimated delivery is from today thru Monday, so hopefully I'll see it soon.
 

bmwellsokstate

macrumors member
Apr 20, 2015
72
27
Oklahoma
I apologize for all of the frustrations that the eBay seller that I recommended has caused. Like I have stated before - I didn't have issues with him, so I thought he would be great to recommend for you all. I had no intentions to have you guys be in this situation. Just stay on top of him and don't let him give you BS. I hope you all receive the bands soon. Once again, my apologies.
 

broadbean

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Jun 10, 2007
782
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Review: Link Bracelet 0.5:1 clone

Why do I like this mechanism? Because to me it symbolizes the technical advancement of the Chinese shanzhai industry in the last 5 years or so. These parts are ridiculously small and precisely made and when testing my sample I had the feeling they were very rigid too. It doesn't feel like these parts will come lose and that is all you probably care about before strapping a few hundred dollars onto your wrist with this band.

You're kidding, right? If anything, I expect amazing quality and almost indistinguishable "clones" from the country that has had literally decades of experience in super high quality counterfeit luxury watches! We're no longer talking about fake electronic parts but meticulously well reproduced, luxury goods replacements.
 

JerTheGeek

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May 15, 2014
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I apologize for all of the frustrations that the eBay seller that I recommended has caused. Like I have stated before - I didn't have issues with him, so I thought he would be great to recommend for you all. I had no intentions to have you guys be in this situation. Just stay on top of him and don't let him give you BS. I hope you all receive the bands soon. Once again, my apologies.
Totally not your fault dude! Thanks for recommending a great-looking Milanese replica; I had pretty much given up looking for one but after seeing yours I decided to go for it, so thanks!
 
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EdisEdward

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Feb 4, 2013
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Thanks all for the reviews and impressions of link bands! The video was awesome! I ordered mine from Utica. According to the pics, it has a different clasp but otherwise, I hope the quality is as nice as the bands posted !


looks half decent. probably cant tell a difference at a distance. but i love by authentic one. maybe not worth the $500 though...would have bought a cheap one like this if it was $50
 
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pbody

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Jun 27, 2010
21
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No tracking info but I got a number. My LL from same seller didn't have a tracking number.
I placed an order with inkoo888 on Fri 7/24 and received a USPS tracking # right away (which still isn't working). I've been asking them if they ship form the US or China and have not gotten an straight answer. On Monday 7/17 they wrote:

"Sorry for this issue, I will be checking with the post office ASAP to see what is going wrong with this package, and I just assumed this might because the package not being updated timely or missing scanned, I believe you will see the update later and get the item very soon, let me know if it is not then, sorry again for the inconvenience. thanks for your support"

So, I just called eBay and filed a complaint that this seller may be shipping from China but advertising that they are based in the US. Here is the link to lodge a complaint: (http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cuhome).

I'm only about 40 min from Dayton NJ, so that's the primary reason I ordered from them. While the product may be fine, the deception is not. I figure that I may as well wait a few more days and if it doesn't arrive by it's advertised date (Aug 1) I'll cancel and order from someone else.
 
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soya

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Jul 30, 2010
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I placed an order with inkoo888 on Fri 7/24 and received a USPS tracking # right away (which still isn't working). I've been asking them if they ship form the US or China and have not gotten an straight answer. On Monday 7/17 they wrote:

"Sorry for this issue, I will be checking with the post office ASAP to see what is going wrong with this package, and I just assumed this might because the package not being updated timely or missing scanned, I believe you will see the update later and get the item very soon, let me know if it is not then, sorry again for the inconvenience. thanks for your support"

So, I just called eBay and filed a complaint that this seller may be shipping from China but advertising that they are based in the US. Here is the link to lodge a complaint: (http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cuhome).

I'm only about 40 min from Dayton NJ, so that's the primary reason I ordered from them. While the product may be fine, the deception is not. I figure that I may as well wait a few more days and if it doesn't arrive by it's advertised date (Aug 1) I'll cancel and order from someone else.


I guess they are generating the labels well in advance so that they can send us the tracking number. Then they receive the orders from China and only then they start shipping them under the same tracking number.
 
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slvrscoobie

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Mar 24, 2013
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I placed an order with inkoo888 on Fri 7/24 and received a USPS tracking # right away (which still isn't working). I've been asking them if they ship form the US or China and have not gotten an straight answer. On Monday 7/17 they wrote:

"Sorry for this issue, I will be checking with the post office ASAP to see what is going wrong with this package, and I just assumed this might because the package not being updated timely or missing scanned, I believe you will see the update later and get the item very soon, let me know if it is not then, sorry again for the inconvenience. thanks for your support"

So, I just called eBay and filed a complaint that this seller may be shipping from China but advertising that they are based in the US. Here is the link to lodge a complaint: (http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cuhome).

I'm only about 40 min from Dayton NJ, so that's the primary reason I ordered from them. While the product may be fine, the deception is not. I figure that I may as well wait a few more days and if it doesn't arrive by it's advertised date (Aug 1) I'll cancel and order from someone else.
Mines the same. I'm in Morristown. Maybe 20 miles from Dayton. 10 days and it's finally hit Kerney. I'm still filing a complaint. This is way beyond the 'fastnfree' time period.
 
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Tmelon

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Feb 26, 2011
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I apologize for all of the frustrations that the eBay seller that I recommended has caused. Like I have stated before - I didn't have issues with him, so I thought he would be great to recommend for you all. I had no intentions to have you guys be in this situation. Just stay on top of him and don't let him give you BS. I hope you all receive the bands soon. Once again, my apologies.
Not your fault in the slightest. From your pictures it looks like an excellent replica and I will have no regrets once it finally arrives. Just getting a little antsy as I'm about to leave town for a while.
 

soya

macrumors 6502
Jul 30, 2010
433
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Not your fault in the slightest. From your pictures it looks like an excellent replica and I will have no regrets once it finally arrives. Just getting a little antsy as I'm about to leave town for a while.

At least the price is the lowest.
 
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ianfann

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Oct 12, 2014
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I apologize for all of the frustrations that the eBay seller that I recommended has caused. Like I have stated before - I didn't have issues with him, so I thought he would be great to recommend for you all. I had no intentions to have you guys be in this situation. Just stay on top of him and don't let him give you BS. I hope you all receive the bands soon. Once again, my apologies.
I don't think you should feel apologetic about this. You shared a link and I think that's very nice of you.
 
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Tangmu

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Jun 19, 2015
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You're kidding, right? If anything, I expect amazing quality and almost indistinguishable "clones" from the country that has had literally decades of experience in super high quality counterfeit luxury watches! We're no longer talking about fake electronic parts but meticulously well reproduced, luxury goods replacements.

I see what you mean. Of course high quality replica watches have been produced in China in the past and present. And at some point in time it can of course also be expected to see a high quality clone of the Link Bracelet.

However there is a difference between classic luxury watch replicas and bands for Apple Watch in my opinion. Up to now luxury watches are seen as time pieces that can be worn for years or even decades. So when you looked on replica markets it could take well over a year until a high quality replica of your favorite Breitling would appear. (If we're talking high quality and not the average crap replicas for tourists.) It could still cost a few thousand RMB if done extremely well and no one would care that it took so long to achieve that quality since it was this traditional kind of jewelry time piece.

For Apple Watch this seems to vastly differ to me. No one knows when the next model will be released at this point. No one knows if the spring bars will be altered or new version of bands are going to be released for a new model. How long will the current model be usable? Those are a lot of unanswered questions for a manufacturer and I don't think it is surprising to see a totally different quality compared to luxury replicas here. This is much more a traditional electronics accessory at the moment and I also wasn't expecting anything else.

So having that said: When writing this part I was not regarding this band as a luxury replica but rather an electronics accessory nor did I expect a good quality for the first attempt on the Link Bracelet to be released just three months after the watch.
 

terrorsource

macrumors member
Jul 29, 2015
30
10
Does anyone have any reason to not order the Milanese Loop from eBay seller Inkoo888?
Read some posts that the tracking was not alright and that the items were shipped from CN instead of USA...
 

ThaRagingAsian

macrumors 6502
Aug 28, 2014
381
33
I ordered the Milanese Loop from Inko888 on Sunday July 26, received a tracking number the next day that didn't work. Today (Thursday) it finally worked showing it being scanned in NJ this morning. I'll probably get it within the timeframe it stated. Maybe this Saturday the earliest! Shipping in the USA.
 

Bobioden

macrumors 68000
Sep 23, 2007
1,725
46
Denver
I ordered the Milanese Loop from Inko888 on Sunday July 26, received a tracking number the next day that didn't work. Today (Thursday) it finally worked showing it being scanned in NJ this morning. I'll probably get it within the timeframe it stated. Maybe this Saturday the earliest! Shipping in the USA.


I ordered the same day from him. Got tracking but not updated until this morning. Shipping from Auburn, WA. I am sure I will see it by Monday. Which is within the shipping quote. There was 3 days with no movement. Looking forward to it, and the price was right.
 

diaph

macrumors newbie
Jul 30, 2015
5
3
Review: Link Bracelet 0.5:1 clone

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Currently there is a lot of buzz about the Link Bracelet clones that are showing up on AliExpress and eBay in increasing numbers. The best one of those clones looks pretty much like its inspiration except for the clasp and the tool-free link adjustment mechanism. With the news that the real 1:1 clone has been delayed again due to complications in part designs after being said to have already entered production stage this clone is as good as it gets for probably another two weeks or so.

What's in the box?

The band comes in the same simple cardboard box that we also have seen for the Leather Loop. The only twist is that the box is gold now - likely expressing to its customer that she or he is going to need to shell out a little more cash in order to gain possession. Talking about she or he: This Link Bracelet clone comes in silver and space black color variations but only as a 42 mm version at this point in time.

After removing the tray holding the band in place the little tool used for adjusting the band becomes visible. It has the form of a regular SIM-tray opener for iPhone but the metal is much harder (you can still bend it though - and you likely will until you understand how to correctly adjust the links on the band - more on that later).

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The band

The band is secured using two pieces of foil wrapped around it so it doesn't scratch during shipment. After removing those you're ready to connect it to your Apple Watch. I can't deny that I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of materials used. Every link piece on the band is finely made and fits perfectly into the one above or below it. The metal is brushed slightly giving it the look of the original. That's still a little bit more shiny and a little bit darker than the anodized aluminum of the Apple Watch Sport so this combination is not really a perfect fit in my opinion but I'll leave that to your taste.

If you were wondering how many of the links are adjustable: There are 10 identical links that can be freely removed or added. They are all located in the middle of the band thus enabling the links to grow in width towards the ends as the original band does.

The ends of the band are also a pleasant surprise. They are extremely precise. On my watch I was not able to spot gaps or unevenly molded side parts. Inserting the band is easy and went butterly smooth on my sample. One thing to take attention: When removing the original Link Bracelet it is easy to remove a link so the band is split in two parts and then removing each of the parts from the watch for easier access. Since the clones locking mechanism is not identical this method is not that convenient. I suggest removing or inserting the band in one piece by alternately sliding each end out of the watch by a few millimeters. When the ends come out be careful not to scratch the watch.

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Adjusting the links

This is my favorite part of this clone. At first it would seem like you take that SIM-tool and just push out little metal sticks holding the links together, right? EEENNN! Wrong. In each removable link there is a little metal tube with a spring mechanism inside. On each side of this tube there is a little metal stick like end coming out which can be pushed into the tube.

So after you have tried the band and decided on how many links you want to remove you take the SIM-tool and press in one hole of the link you're intending to remove. Don't press too hard just go by a millimeter or two and you will suddenly feel or even see the link coming loose. It might take a little while. Just try it with feeling - otherwise you will only push the SIM-tool inside the tube and the link will still be locked in place.

Why do I like this mechanism? Because to me it symbolizes the technical advancement of the Chinese shanzhai industry in the last 5 years or so. These parts are ridiculously small and precisely made and when testing my sample I had the feeling they were very rigid too. It doesn't feel like these parts will come lose and that is all you probably care about before strapping a few hundred dollars onto your wrist with this band.

After the unnecessary links have been removed you connect the two parts of each band side by sliding the metal tube on one link into the corresponding hole of the other link and push the metal stick on the opposite side back into the tube while gently pushing the two links into each other. Sounds confusing? If no one did this already I will show it in an upcoming video about the band.

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Look and feel

Sliding the band onto your hand is easy and while the clasp is not a 1:1 copy it does its job well. You also won't feel it rubbing your skin or having any other negative effects on the overall experience. Once you wear the band that clasp will just disappear and you won't think about it again. The band might be a little tight depending on your wrist size but will slightly loose up a little during your first day of wear.

For a clone the biggest question will always be: Can you distinguish it from the original when casually looking at someone wearing it? In my opinion the answer to that question is no. Yes the clasp looks different from the bottom and yes there are little holes in 12 of the links of the band when looking from the side but come on - no one will notice unless he really takes you arm and starts twisting it in front of his eyes. - Ouch! I suggest you book a physician appointment now.

Something I noticed: The links seem to be lubricated with a black colored oil from the inside. During initial wear of the band some pieces of this oil film might fall out of the links but can be easily cleaned away by using a piece of microfibre cloth drowned in a bit of alcohol.

Also: There seem to be several versions of this clone band on the market and not all of them have the same quality. The best I have seen so far should be distinguishable by looking at the final two link pieces above the clasp. (At the time of writing this review.) They should be different then the rest and have a straight shape with little curves towards the edges.

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Hi Tangmu, thanks for the review. Do you have a seller to recommend for this model ?
 
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broadbean

macrumors 6502a
Jun 10, 2007
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Does anyone have any reason to not order the Milanese Loop from eBay seller Inkoo888?
Read some posts that the tracking was not alright and that the items were shipped from CN instead of USA...

If you meant is Inkoo888 a reputable, albeit possibly slow seller, others will have more experience.

If you meant the actual Milanese Loop itself, I don't think it's a "1:1" clone. I counted the actual loops across and I don't believe it's as fine as the real deal. That's why I stopped getting one even though at first glance it looked real close.
 

ianfann

macrumors 6502
Oct 12, 2014
261
151
If you meant is Inkoo888 a reputable, albeit possibly slow seller, others will have more experience.

If you meant the actual Milanese Loop itself, I don't think it's a "1:1" clone. I counted the actual loops across and I don't believe it's as fine as the real deal. That's why I stopped getting one even though at first glance it looked real close.
Yes, I agree. The clone Milanese loop is not a 100% 1:1. The quality will also never beat Apple's.
 

terrorsource

macrumors member
Jul 29, 2015
30
10
If you meant is Inkoo888 a reputable, albeit possibly slow seller, others will have more experience.

If you meant the actual Milanese Loop itself, I don't think it's a "1:1" clone. I counted the actual loops across and I don't believe it's as fine as the real deal. That's why I stopped getting one even though at first glance it looked real close.

I would love the Milanese Loop but not for the retail price. So the price he's asking is reasonable for me. I dont live in the USA but he's going to try to ship it towards my country anyway.

Yes, I agree. The clone Milanese loop is not a 100% 1:1. The quality will also never beat Apple's.

Did you recieve one from Inkoo888 before? If you have one, on which points are they different compared to the real one?
 

fb2

macrumors member
Jul 21, 2010
32
1
I placed an order with inkoo888 on Fri 7/24 and received a USPS tracking # right away (which still isn't working). I've been asking them if they ship form the US or China and have not gotten an straight answer. On Monday 7/17 they wrote:

"Sorry for this issue, I will be checking with the post office ASAP to see what is going wrong with this package, and I just assumed this might because the package not being updated timely or missing scanned, I believe you will see the update later and get the item very soon, let me know if it is not then, sorry again for the inconvenience. thanks for your support"

So, I just called eBay and filed a complaint that this seller may be shipping from China but advertising that they are based in the US. Here is the link to lodge a complaint: (http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cuhome).

I'm only about 40 min from Dayton NJ, so that's the primary reason I ordered from them. While the product may be fine, the deception is not. I figure that I may as well wait a few more days and if it doesn't arrive by it's advertised date (Aug 1) I'll cancel and order from someone else.

This is EXACTLY the same response I have received from him when questioning the status of my LL I ordered on 7/22. I as well ordered from this seller since I am 45 minutes from Dayton. The tracking says it has been in Secaucus since Sunday and according to another person in this thread that is a customs stop. If that is true all signs point to this item shipping from China.

I'm also going to file a compliant. Today is the last day of the FastNFree shipping window.
 

broadbean

macrumors 6502a
Jun 10, 2007
782
333
Yes, I agree. The clone Milanese loop is not a 100% 1:1. The quality will also never beat Apple's.

Is Hoco's Milanese Loop a "branded" version of this clone?
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http://www.hococase.com/details/Milanese_Steel_watchband_for_Apple_Watch_38_42mm_silver.html?l=brand
 
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