Note 4 vs Nexus 6

[Oohara]

Thats my thoughts too......what takes advantage of the extra size for the N6?
The N4 adds a few extra features and not just extra size......

True the Note 4 has its specific phablet features which are very nice. Nevertheless though I find just extra screen real estate in itself very nice to have for many general tasks. Reading, editing text, watching videos, gaming, using the calendar, maps etc, for all of those I like to have as big a phone screen as possible. I also like it for apps like Spotify where the extra space gives a better overview.

 

[Dreamliner330]

But that is not what you said. You said the Note 4 will have stutter and lag.

I call BS unless you have proof......

All the video reviews say just the opposite....so unless you have video proof or have the device yourself.......

Time will tell I am right. No proof needed. Samsung couldn't make a quality device if they tried.

 

[Oohara]

But that is not what you said. You said the Note 4 will have stutter and lag.
I call BS unless you have proof......
All the video reviews say just the opposite....so unless you have video proof or have the device yourself.......

I'd just put him on ignore and move on mate, some people are very clearly not interested in any constructive discussion whatsoever...

 

[jamezr]

Time will tell I am right. No proof needed. Samsung couldn't make a quality device if they tried.

Great! Thanks for proving the point i was getting at.......

 

[Dreamliner330]

Note 4 vs Nexus 6

Great! Thanks for proving the point i was getting at.......

Enjoy your Samsung, no amount of owners bias will fix its performance issues.

Fact is, no review talks about the lag/stutters. It's always "the best yet". A few weeks after release the threads are littered with lag issues and people with owners bias denying it. A few years later when those owners sell their prized possession, they finally admit it.

S4 threads are still littered with 'no lag since update' yet owners claim it never lagged.

 

[jamezr]

I'd just put him on ignore and move on mate, some people are very clearly not interested in any constructive discussion whatsoever...

There is so much hate for Samsung on these forums......
You would think they slept with his wife and kicked his dog or something.....

 

[Dreamliner330]

There is so much hate for Samsung on these forums......

You would think they slept with his wife and kicked his dog or something.....

Just dropped calls, lagged and provided awful Pentile displays.

 

[maflynn]

I'm liking the Note over the Nexus 6 - with one provision.
Can the Note 4 be rooted?

I love the idea of the N6 being vanilla Android and loading on some custom rom, but I think if the Note 4 can be rooted that advantage disappears.

Overall I think the note 4 is a better phone especially since you can buy it on subsidy. I don't really want to drop over six hundred dollars on a phone - but that's just me.

 

[Oohara]

Just dropped calls, lagged and provided awful Pentile displays.

Funny you should chuck that one in there when the most renowned display expert on the web has just dubbed the Note 4 display the best mobile display ever and better even than that of the 6 Plus.

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I'm liking the Note over the Nexus 6 - with one provision.
Can the Note 4 be rooted?

I love the idea of the N6 being vanilla Android and loading on some custom rom, but I think if the Note 4 can be rooted that advantage disappears.

Overall I think the note 4 is a better phone especially since you can buy it on subsidy. I don't really want to drop over six hundred dollars on a phone - but that's just me.

I believe LIVEFRMNYC (sorry if misspelled) has already rooted his, it's in one of the other threads. Tripped Knox though.

 

[Dreamliner330]

Note 4 vs Nexus 6

Funny you should chuck that one in there when the most renowned display expert on the web has just dubbed the Note 4 display the best mobile display ever and better even than that of the 6 Plus.

I am not a defender of iPhones either. I said that because people people flamed me for criticizing the horrid display on the S3 a couple years ago.

Do I want it to be great? Sure.

Will it beat a Nexus? No.

 

[Oohara]

I am not a defender of iPhones either. I said that because people people flamed me for criticizing the horrid display on the S3 a couple years ago.

Do I want it to be great? Sure.

Will it beat a Nexus? No.

I doesn't matter if you're defending iPhones or not - it is simply the best mobile display on any device right now. Perhaps base your discussion on what's going on today rather than how things were two years ago...

 

[Dreamliner330]

I doesn't matter if you're defending iPhones or not - it is simply the best mobile display on any device right now. Perhaps base your discussion on what's going on today rather than how things were two years ago...

Time will tell.

 

[jamezr]

Funny you should chuck that one in there when the most renowned display expert on the web has just dubbed the Note 4 display the best mobile display ever and better even than that of the 6 Plus.

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I believe LIVEFRMNYC (sorry if misspelled) has already rooted his, it's in one of the other threads. Tripped Knox though.

At XDA...they have rooted some variants of the N4 already. I am not sure about the carrier versions like AT&T or Verizon though.
Knox being tripped is bad....but some here that have worked for Samsung support say they never denied warranty for it. But I am sure others might have had a bad experience as well.
I had a S5 that had a S5 that had been rooted and then the video went out. I took it to an AT&T corp store and they replaced it no questions asked. All they checked was no water damage. They guy was really nice so I admitted it being rooted. He said it didn't affect the video card going out so in that instance it didn't hurt me.

 

[Oohara]

At XDA...they have rooted some variants of the N4 already. I am not sure about the carrier versions like AT&T or Verizon though.
Knox being tripped is bad....but some here that have worked for Samsung support say they never denied warranty for it. But I am sure others might have had a bad experience as well.
I had a S5 that had a S5 that had been rooted and then the video went out. I took it to an AT&T corp store and they replaced it no questions asked. All they checked was no water damage. They guy was really nice so I admitted it being rooted. He said it didn't affect the video card going out so in that instance it didn't hurt me.

Yeah I guess YMMV with Samsung's policies regarding Knox. In any case I think nowadays there are ways to re-set the Knox counter so hopefully that will be possible on the N4 as well further down the line.

Take all I say regarding root with a grain of salt though, I have very little experience myself.....aside from extensive forum lurking

 

[MRU]

so much insecurity on this thread from certain peeps... quite sad.

 

[Tinmania]

Nexus 6--the Android equivalent of my iPhone 6+. I don't need a removable battery, especially on these phablets that already have the best battery performance amongst smartphones and 64 GB is plenty of storage for my needs (prefer it all onboard regardless)

I thought I would never need to swap the battery when I got my Note 2.

But my usage pattern changed from prior phones so I was using it more; and using my iPad less.

So being able to carry an extra battery around for my Note 2 has come in handy countless times. It is a big plus for me. I bring this up for anyone reading that is coming from a regular phone to a phablet.

The thing that attracts me about the Nexus 6 is the bigger screen, in a not that much bigger package.

Pure Android or Touchwiz is a toss-up for me--as long as the option to root is there (and I have no doubt that it will be).


Mike

 

[cdmoore74]

100usd price difference (for the moment)

On Verizon there is only a $50 difference between both 32GB models in the favor of the Nexus. The 64GB should make it even. Very difficult choice because I already have a 64GB SD card from my Note 3.

 

[bmac4]

i don't want either, but if I had to choose a phablet it would be the Note 4 simply because of the masses of extra stuff tailored for phablets. The nexus 6 may have killer specs but it is fundamentally like the iPhone 6+ , just an over sized version of the smaller devices.

Is that a bad thing? Having an oversized phone that is. I had the note 2 a couple of years ago, and while the s pen was nice. I only pulled it out a few times after the first couple of days. It's great to say you have it, but really most really don't use it. I feel like that is the theme for the Note series. Cool features to say you have, but some of them never get used.

I think Samsung has created a great product in the Note 4. I am just not sure oversized phone is that bad of a thing. I used to think it was pointless, but now that I have the iPhone 6+. It really is nice. I want all the great things I like a iOS, but I want it in a bigger package. To me it does not need an s pen to be great. I think the same thing is true for the N6. Sure it's just an oversized Moto X, but that does not have to be a bad thing. The extra screen is just really nice to have. Special features or not.

All that being said I want neither. The N6 is over priced ( I know I bought the iPhone 6+, but I feel like it's a bit different than the nexus line), and the Note 4 has Touchwiz. I want nothing to do with that. I am just going to keep my iPhone 6+, and use my N5 as my 2nd phone. Oversize does not have to be bad.

 

[tbayrgs]

I thought I would never need to swap the battery when I got my Note 2.

But my usage pattern changed from prior phones so I was using it more; and using my iPad less.

So being able to carry an extra battery around for my Note 2 has come in handy countless times. It is a big plus for me. I bring this up for anyone reading that is coming from a regular phone to a phablet.

The thing that attracts me about the Nexus 6 is the bigger screen, in a not that much bigger package.

Pure Android or Touchwiz is a toss-up for me--as long as the option to root is there (and I have no doubt that it will be).

Mike

Well, of course all of us have different needs. I'm rarely if ever, far from the ability to get a quick charge for my devices, if needed, though that is not really an issue using my 6+. If that wasn't the case, I'm sure the removable battery may carry more weight in my decision but I'd guess the daily usage patterns of most people will not exhaust the battery on any of these new phablets with such large batteries. Battery performance in the Note alone has improved dramatically since the Note II. I just personally cannot stand the flimsy removable panel and the compromise it makes in feel and device rigidity. It's better than it's been in the past but still doesn't measure up to unibody or fixed panel build, IMO.

 

[Tinmania]

Well, of course all of us have different needs. I'm rarely if ever, far from the ability to get a quick charge for my devices, if needed, though that is not really an issue using my 6+. If that wasn't the case, I'm sure the removable battery may carry more weight in my decision but I'd guess the daily usage patterns of most people will not exhaust the battery on any of these new phablets with such large batteries. Battery performance in the Note alone has improved dramatically since the Note II. I just personally cannot stand the flimsy removable panel and the compromise it makes in feel and device rigidity. It's better than it's been in the past but still doesn't measure up to unibody or fixed panel build, IMO.

What? The battery life of the Note 2 was never a problem nor did the Note 3 improve on it much, if at all.

How does the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 compare versus last year's Galaxy Note II, though? The difference is not big, but - interestingly - the Note 2 actually lasts a bit longer. How is this possible when the Note 3 has a larger battery? Simple, the new Note is much brighter and has a slightly larger display.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...est-a-monster-in-faux-leather-clothes_id50748

I don't expect the Note 4 to be that much better than the Note 3.

That said I wasn't saying the Note 2 had bad battery life. I was saying that if you end up using it a lot, as I do, being able to quickly swap a battery is very nice indeed--and easier than needing to find a place to charge. Ergo, the swappable battery of the Note 4 is important to me over the Nexus 6.

I wouldn't chose the iPhone 6+ over either of them, but that is not what this thread is about.


Michael

 

[tbayrgs]

What? The battery life of the Note 2 was never a problem nor did the Note 3 improve on it much, if at all.


http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...est-a-monster-in-faux-leather-clothes_id50748

I don't expect the Note 4 to be that much better than the Note 3.

That said I wasn't saying the Note 2 had bad battery life. I was saying that if you end up using it a lot, as I do, being able to quickly swap a battery is very nice indeed--and easier than needing to find a place to charge. Ergo, the swappable battery of the Note 4 is important to me over the Nexus 6.

I wouldn't chose the iPhone 6+ over either of them, but that is not what this thread is about.

Michael

OK, I stand corrected about Note II battery performance but that really wasn't pertinent to my key point--that you and your needs concerning battery life are likely an outlier vs. the general public, that you're likely the exception, not the norm. I think the advantage of having a replacable battery is signifantly diminished once you get to devices with such good battery life already.

It's all preferences, of course, and mine is to forgoe the replacable battery for a better feel and great rigidity, and thus part of the reason why I'd choose the Nexus.

And I wasn't in any way advocating a 6+ vs. either of these devices, was just using it to illustrate an example of why I find replacable batteries in any of these larger devices unnecessary. Not sure why the shot at the iPhone on your part was even necessary but whatever makes you feel better.

 

[blackhand1001]

I worry about two things on the nexus:

1. Battery life
2. Camera

Just because it has the same size battery doesn't mean battery life will be good. Maybe I am just used to some form of compromise in nexus devices, but there has to be a catch somewhere. Based on the new moto X I doubt the camera will be as good as the note.

I am also slightly dissappointed by any optimizations that take advantage of the larger screen.. It's just a blown up phone like the 6 plus.

The camera in the Nexus 6 is not the same one from the 2014 moto x. Its quite a large upgrade over that one. Also the battery life will be fantastic, this is motorola, who already has great battery life even with smaller batteries and this one has 3220mah of battery. It will have absolutely not problem outdoing the note in real world battery especially since the reception on it is likely to be substantially better which helps a ton regarding battery drain.

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I'm liking the Note over the Nexus 6 - with one provision.
Can the Note 4 be rooted?

I love the idea of the N6 being vanilla Android and loading on some custom rom, but I think if the Note 4 can be rooted that advantage disappears.

Overall I think the note 4 is a better phone especially since you can buy it on subsidy. I don't really want to drop over six hundred dollars on a phone - but that's just me.

Even if it does get rooted once the next OTA update comes out its gameover and you have to start over again. Each time theres an update they will have to find a new exploit and that can take months and some devices never get rooted. With the nexus you have an unlockable bootloader so its never an issue. Just flash the root binaries and you are done.

 

[Zwhaler]

Quad HD AMOLED with RBO sub pixel sounds uber nice, however no SD expansion is bad news for someone who likes that feature, also the phone is just kind of too big for my preference. The screen size is super nice though but I think the unit it a tad too large. Note 4 should be in my hands soon!

 

[mib1800]

Even if it does get rooted once the next OTA update comes out its gameover and you have to start over again. Each time theres an update they will have to find a new exploit and that can take months and some devices never get rooted. With the nexus you have an unlockable bootloader so its never an issue. Just flash the root binaries and you are done.

Locked bootloader Samsung phones are small in numbers specific to some operators. Otherwise rooting is never an issue. It is unlike jailbreak. I think Samsung itself do not actively prevent rooting.

 

[spinedoc77]

Riiiiiiight. Just like all the Samsung products before it.

It will be a stuttering mess, just like its Galaxy brothers.

Except the reviews are saying the opposite. Let's see, believe reviews from multiple established major tech blog sites or a lone person who has an odd, creepy hate for an inanimate company.

BTW is it just me, or is it possible this is pedrocm back from ban land?