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apolloa

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Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
Are you saying that there aren't things that have had their reputation damaged in one way or another (sometimes even just because of their name), even if just in perception, that either basically never came back or came back under some other name and/or in a somewhat different form? Doesn't seem like it's a given that one thing or another thing will necessarily be the result considering things could go either way.

Of course their are! BMW 3 series, how popular is that? One time it was recalled of breaks failing. You lot are a tiny tiny tiny collection of people that are interested in tech, the mass customer base aren't and don't care about a name, they just want it to work and do what they want, that's why they don't bother changing names. Do people avoid planes that have crashed and killed hundreds?
 

C DM

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Of course their are! BMW 3 series, how popular is that? One time it was recalled of breaks failing. You lot are a tiny tiny tiny collection of people that are interested in tech, the mass customer base aren't and don't care about a name, they just want it to work and do what they want, that's why they don't bother changing names. Do people avoid planes that have crashed and killed hundreds?
And yet there have been companies have gotten rid of problematic (in one way or another) products and haven't launched new ones with the same name even if they launch new ones that are just follow ups or redisigned version of those they got rid of. There are even companies that rebrand whole product lines if not the company itself for similar types of reasons.
 

spinedoc77

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I hope they ditch the Note 8 name, if only for the arguments about nothing to stop on the forums. :mad: Alas they will probably continue even if that's the case.
 
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apolloa

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And yet there have been companies have gotten rid of problematic (in one way or another) products and haven't launched new ones with the same name even if they launch new ones that are just follow ups or redisigned version of those they got rid of. There are even companies that rebrand whole product lines if not the company itself for similar types of reasons.

Never heard of that, anyway as the article says it seems Samsung aren't one of those :D
 

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Never heard of that, anyway as the article says it seems Samsung aren't one of those :D
It seems like they might not be, at least as plans go, but as others have also mentioned, how it will all actually work out in practice remains to be seen.
 

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Honestly don't care what they call it, I just want it. The S8 will have to do until then. :)
 
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0388631

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In comparison the s7 sold 100,000 units in two days in the Korean market, this figure includes preorders. 60,000 units of the s7 were sold ont the first day of release in South Korea.
Just as well. The Koreans aren't going to risk being cooked alive or worse, burnt to the bone. No one wants to become Korean BBQ.
 

s0nicpr0s

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They should keep going with the Note name simply for the pun this year will offer. The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 will be even better with some sort of assistant that you can dictate commands to. The device would be perfect for both dictation and notation =P
 

Breaking Good

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I guess I'm the contrarian view here. I was hoping they would fix the problems with the Note 7 and relaunch it as the Note 7A or something like that. then sell it just off of their Web site (unlocked) for something like US$500.

From what I can tell, the Note series was never a huge seller for Samsung, but it had, and I think continues to have, a very loyal following. It seems only fair to offer that loyal customer base an option to upgrade from the Note 5 while they are still developing the Note 8.
 

Tsepz

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Just as I thought and have been saying, Samsung WILL continue to use the Note name for its devices.
They have announced in their Korean news page, if you got a Note 7 you can buy an S7 or S7 Edge for half price which you can then trade in for the Galaxy S8 or Galaxy Note 8 when on sale!

http://www.slashgear.com/new-note-7...-8-upgrade-south-korea-only-for-now-24461248/

Only for South Korea currently though. But they could still re-name the phone for the West.
Stop it! You are going against the narrative the Samsung haters are so desperately coming down to this forum to push!

Even Toyota kept the names of the cars that had the Accel./Brake Issue, the Toyota Yaris, Corolla and Camry continue to sell despite the deadly issue they had.

Samsung will probably keep the Note name indeed.
 

bufffilm

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It really doesn't matter what the next 'Note' will be called.

You could argue to case for either side. But the majority think it would be best to go with a new name. Certainly less baggage.

Regardless of what the final name will be...Samsung has a lot of work to do to restore confidence in their name.
 

C DM

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Stop it! You are going against the narrative the Samsung haters are so desperately coming down to this forum to push!

Even Toyota kept the names of the cars that had the Accel./Brake Issue, the Toyota Yaris, Corolla and Camry continue to sell despite the deadly issue they had.

Samsung will probably keep the Note name indeed.
But then again Ford hasn't made Pinto in a long time, and likely won't be bringing that model back in any shape or form.
 
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ronntaylor

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People debated whether or not the Note brand would survive while ignoring things like the Tylenol recall or the Ford/Firestone issue. This isn't great, but worse has happened.

I cringe whenever Tylenol is brought up regarding recalls. That case was totally different as Johnson & Johnson responded rapidly and responsibly. They worked with authorities immediately and recalled over 30 million bottles of pills (in the early 80s which was no easy feat). It is totally opposite of recent recalls, especially the Note 7 recall that botched, and botched again by Samsung.

It's early yet, so I hope that Samsung eventually drops the Note branding. They already caused confusion by skipping the Note 6 and will compound it by having a second device named the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (their 8 inch tablet a few years ago was called the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0).
 

Klyster

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But then again Ford hasn't made Pinto in a long time, and likely won't be bringing that model back in any shape or form.


Takata airbags have killed people.
The recall is going on until at least 2019.
Tens of millions of cars are affected.
How's sales going? Great, everyone forgets really quickly .
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I cringe whenever Tylenol is brought up regarding recalls. That case was totally different as Johnson & Johnson responded rapidly and responsibly. They worked with authorities immediately and recalled over 30 million bottles of pills (in the early 80s which was no easy feat). It is totally opposite of recent recalls, especially the Note 7 recall that botched, and botched again by Samsung.

It's early yet, so I hope that Samsung eventually drops the Note branding. They already caused confusion by skipping the Note 6 and will compound it by having a second device named the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (their 8 inch tablet a few years ago was called the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0).
How about Takata airbags then? Deaths, global recall, no one cares after six months...
 

FFR

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Takata airbags have killed people.
The recall is going on until at least 2019.
Tens of millions of cars are affected.
How's sales going? Great, everyone forgets really quickly .
[doublepost=1477553893][/doublepost]
How about Takata airbags then? Deaths, global recall, no one cares after six months...

Are you claiming Samsung phones pose as much inherent risk as a car.

Poor comparison none the less.
 
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Radon87000

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Are you claiming Samsung phones pose as much inherent risk as a car.

Poor comparison none the less.
You misunderstood him.The fact that Takata is still around proves that nothing is gonna happen to Samsung
 

Tsepz

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I think that is a rather naive narrative to be honest. Why follow a discussion if the only conclusion is a wild generalisation?
No need to follow, I came in scanned a few posts and picked up immediately whats going on in here. If I hadn't received the notification of you quoting me I wouldn't have bothered coming back.

Same ol' Samsung haters, still pushing the same agenda. :)

Cheers!
 

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You misunderstood him.The fact that Takata is still around proves that nothing is gonna happen to Samsung



Didn't misunderstand anything. Takata is an airbag supplier for cars. Cars can kill people without malfunctioning.
Klyster is comparing the inherent risk of owning and operating an automobile with owning and operating a phone. That is a morbidly retarded comparison.


One more thing...,
You actually cannot go Out and purchase a takata branded car either.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Takata airbags have killed people.
The recall is going on until at least 2019.
Tens of millions of cars are affected.
How's sales going? Great, everyone forgets really quickly .
[doublepost=1477553893][/doublepost]
How about Takata airbags then? Deaths, global recall, no one cares after six months...
I'd never heard of that until now, how extensive was the global media coverage of that? The Note 7 made it into the news headlines of the BBC two days in a row and was debated on national radio as well as 3 chat shows that I know of. Car recalls are common place yet very rarely get coverage beyond a letter to those affected in my experience apart from let's say VW. Even they have had serious profit loss. It's also seriously affected sales in North America. Not every company recovers quickly from a product recall, some do. Nobody is saying Samsung won't but discussion has theorised the impact.
 
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Radon87000

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Didn't misunderstand anything. Takata is an airbag supplier for cars. Cars can kill people without malfunctioning.
Klyster is comparing the inherent risk of owning and operating an automobile with owning and operating a phone. That is a morbidly retarded comparison.


One more thing...,
You actually cannot go Out and purchase a takata branded car either.
There IS a risk involved in every product.Are you saying there isnt ANY inherent risk of operating a smartphone?It can blow up,catch fire etc .The Note has the highest probability.Other smartphones have it lower but it still exists regardless
 

The-Real-Deal82

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No need to follow, I came in scanned a few posts and picked up immediately whats going on in here. If I hadn't received the notification of you quoting me I wouldn't have bothered coming back.

Same ol' Samsung haters, still pushing the same agenda. :)

Cheers!

I'm not a Samsung hater. I don't buy products from companies I don't like. Again, no need to generalise just because we've discussed the more negative impact of a product recall. My input is a little more intelligent than labelling a majority based on the opinions of 2 posters.
 
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FFR

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There IS a risk involved in every product.Are you saying there isnt ANY inherent risk of operating a smartphone?It can blow up,catch fire etc

Obviously now because of the note 7 there is.

There is no inherent risk to owning cell phones if there were then there would be licensees for operating one just like cars not to mention governmental regulation to operate one.


Once again comparing cellphones to cars is a pathetic comparison.
 
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