Does that change what I brought up? Examples of many coin flips landing on heads don't change anything about other instances of a coin landing on tails.
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And once again, that's not how proofs work.
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https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...bc+takata&gfe_rd=cr&ei=Uo0SWP2OJ8ru8weeyZr4CA
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/11/20/airbag-takata-congress.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35174406
"Car parts maker Takata is already facing huge compensation costs over its airbags, which are used by many car manufacturers and have been linked to at least 16 deaths worldwide."
This has been all over the News for years...
It makes the Note debacle pale in comparison.
But hey, what would I know....
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A Takata airbag is not going to start a cabin fire in an aircraft. Nor do they sell them to the general public.
No, they could come in pretty much every vehicle.....which are sold to the general public.
There are other manufacturers but how does Joe Blogs tell?
16 people dead.
How many death by Notes have we had?
My original point was the general public are quick to forget, time will tell if they do with the Note.
There are other manufacturers but how does Joe Blogs tell?
16 people dead.
How many death by Notes have we had?
My original point was the general public are quick to forget, time will tell if they do with the Note.
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The public doesn't buy the airbags, doesn't see their advertisements, doesn't really know or ask which ones come in the cars they get, it's a completely different level of visibility and impact as far as perception goes.
It has been on and in the news for years.
Granted, the media made a bigger song and dance about the Note 7 recently.
And when I purchased a Note 7, did I purchase the battery or was it part of the package, like an airbag is to a vehicle?
Anyway, my point is and was, that the general public (not people who visit tech sites on a daily basis) have a short attention span and are pretty quick to forget things after a period of time.
We will see when Samsung release the S8, there should be some metric to tell how much damage the brand has taken. If it's a big dent, then the Note name might not appear again.
If they have success with the S8, then maybe they'll use it again, maybe they won't. Surely they'll weigh that up closer to the time of release.
Until then, everything is speculation and some of that speculation is offered as gospel, which, to me, comes across as petty close mindedness, but it's hardly surprising considering the classy acts we have floating around here.
Granted, the media made a bigger song and dance about the Note 7 recently.
And when I purchased a Note 7, did I purchase the battery or was it part of the package, like an airbag is to a vehicle?
Anyway, my point is and was, that the general public (not people who visit tech sites on a daily basis) have a short attention span and are pretty quick to forget things after a period of time.
We will see when Samsung release the S8, there should be some metric to tell how much damage the brand has taken. If it's a big dent, then the Note name might not appear again.
If they have success with the S8, then maybe they'll use it again, maybe they won't. Surely they'll weigh that up closer to the time of release.
Until then, everything is speculation and some of that speculation is offered as gospel, which, to me, comes across as petty close mindedness, but it's hardly surprising considering the classy acts we have floating around here.
As I thought then, it didn't get the same sort of coverage the Note 7 did here. Thanks for the links.
I think you just didn't notice it.
It's been reported mainstream media, including the BBC since 2013 but it's not a phone and no one knows who or what Takata is. It's not clickbait.
It's still currently being reported. There's a chance they will go out of business and there's the pending multi billion dollar lawsuit too.
I'm not hearing the much about the Note 7 anymore.
My opinion is people will have moved on by the time the next Samsung Note comes out...
It's been reported mainstream media, including the BBC since 2013 but it's not a phone and no one knows who or what Takata is. It's not clickbait.
It's still currently being reported. There's a chance they will go out of business and there's the pending multi billion dollar lawsuit too.
I'm not hearing the much about the Note 7 anymore.
My opinion is people will have moved on by the time the next Samsung Note comes out...
I haven't noticed it because it hasn't been sensationalised by the media in the same way. The Note was discussed on TV and radio to the point I saw several discussions about in during prime time coverage. The airbag story looks like it was relegated to the business section of the BBC website and perhaps covered on the nightly news.
Someone who gets it!!!!!
And you can add Toyota too to the list, more of their cars, significantly more, have been recalled over the years then I've had hot dinners my entire life! Their was another one this week or last in the mainstream news, yet people still buy their cars....
And at the same time Ford stopped manufacturing their Pinto model and hasn't brought it back.
What the hell is a MacRumors Nehalem??? How many posts does it take to get that title??
And touché...
I think it's already been discussed but with car recalls it always depends how serious the fault is. If it's a Ford Explorer with a stuck accelerator pedal resulting in many accidents then sales plummet and the name is dropped. If it's a ford pinto where a rear collision incinerates the occupants due to the location of the fuel tank, sales plummet and the name is dropped. If it's a Toyota Auris where the rear window motors stop working, of course it's not going to affect the reputation too much. For it's a BMW 3 Series where the ABS sensor fails at 30k miles, it's not going to have a dramatic impact on sales either.
It's very difficult to relate buying habits of cars by comparison, to say cheap hand held devices. If your phone catches fire you've not losing a significant amount of money and can easily switch. If your car has a recall and the model brand suffers, you stand to lose significantly more. It's a silly comparison really.
You need to research:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...26000-cars-in-Britain-due-to-brake-fault.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/28/bmw-3-series-5-series-x1-x3-z4-brake-recall/
http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/new-cars/explore-the-range.html
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxha...ires-used-cars-being-sold-without-recall-work
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36330439
http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vehicles/vauxhall-range/cars/new-zafira-tourer/overview.html
Just two examples both dangerous. Your also changing the argument, the argument is the public easily forget, and names of products are not changed because of recalls all the time.
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And both massively affected sales, but you're right at least they haven't changed the names. High five mate, get yourself a job in Korea.
This. How about we just shut down this steaming pile of a thread until there's actually something to talk about later next year. Until then, it's just a bunch of pointless bickering.
You may be right, you are obviously confident you will be whereas I'm just throwing in a possibility.
Bunch of pointless? So is your massive moan about Apple but you love its eco system.... it's called a forum and it's a place where opinions are discussed, not called 'steaming pile'! And as for something to talk about, you mean my first post where I linked to the news that Samsung has posted articles with the Note 8 name on their Korean website? I think that was worth discussing even if you don't.
That is true, it is a possibility, they could change the name in the west. Out of interest if they DO change the name in the west, what do you think they will call it?
Yep, I've purchased Toyota for the last decade. Good decision too IMO.
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They still make Ford Explorers....
Prius were associated with fatalities, they've expanded the range and sell more.
Ferrari 458's adhesive spontaneously combusted, they still made them til 2015, people still went on a waiting list for them.
VW got caught cheating, they will be paying 10s of billions in the US alone, worldwide, who knows what they'll end up paying.
Thier sales have risen, forgotten, forgiven, people don't care anymore.
If you stand to lose significantly more with a car then the people claiming Samsung reusing the Note name is a stupid move are kinda missing the point that the public have short term memories for these sort of things. Ultimately, people will forget and forgive.
I think the comparison stands personally and the comparison with personal transport highlights how blasé we, the public consumers, have become.
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No one is getting too off topic, no one is being abusive.
It's better that there's a thread for pointless bickering about an unreleased, let alone unannounced Samsung product than this discussion polluting other threads.
You know that will happen, it'll probably happen anyway but at least here's a target thread for that discussion.
There's always the option of not reading it too.
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I look forward to buying Note 8 or whatever name it will be, only if micro SD slot and removable battery are both back.
Samsung just messed up in keeping battery size low and making it impossible for clients to remove it : poor apple copycat here... Just a couple of billions mistake.
With a 5000 mAh removable battery there is no need of fast charging silicium hardcoding thus no handset exploding...
I wrote last year in some thread here that fast charging is a lure, affecting battery integrity and life duration plus involving overheating. That is why swapping batteries is a much better solution...
Samsung just messed up in keeping battery size low and making it impossible for clients to remove it : poor apple copycat here... Just a couple of billions mistake.
With a 5000 mAh removable battery there is no need of fast charging silicium hardcoding thus no handset exploding...
I wrote last year in some thread here that fast charging is a lure, affecting battery integrity and life duration plus involving overheating. That is why swapping batteries is a much better solution...
You can still make the phone water resistant even with a removable back, the S5 had one and it was water resistant.