Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
Out of curiosity.....why do you keep that many loose photos in your camera roll? If something is important why not just move it to an album or import it to iPhoto so that it can sync across devices? That way you can just keep the camera roll uncluttered.


I love the fact that the gallery on my GS3 categorizes my photos from one taken with default camera, downloaded, screenshots, and etc. Even separates photos I take from non default camera apps.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
I love the fact that the gallery on my GS3 categorizes my photos from one taken with default camera, downloaded, screenshots, and etc. Even separates photos I take from non default camera apps.

Plus look at the information attached to the photo. The photos I import from iOS to Android have an address exactly where the pic was taken. Plus the obvious....a DATE! Lol
 

Irishman

macrumors 68040
Nov 2, 2006
3,449
859
I have been an Android user, bought the iPhone 5, went back to Android and now I am back on an iPhone 5 again. Forgot why I hated iOS on the iPhone. I just spent 15 minutes deleting over 1,000 photos from my iPhones photo stream :rolleyes: It wasnt good enough I deleted the album from iPhoto on my iMac, they still sat there on my iPhone, wonderful. Then we have albums. If I create a new album and move photos there, why cant I delete them from my camera roll? Try to do that and it deletes them everywhere. Brilliant.

Then we have ringtones. Apple has made a living off MP3s (iPod) but you can't just download one and set it as a ringtone. Why not? On my Android phones I could set one as anything I like. More jumping thru hoops in iOS to do something as simple as add a ringtone. Then we have lots of little annoyances like if someone emails me a number and I click it, I only get the option to call it. I have to copy it, open my keypad, paste it, then add it. On an Android, I can long press the number and call it, add it to my contacts, text it etc...Its things like this that are going to lead me to sell the iphone 5 and get the S4 when it comes out. Unless Apple can address such simple things with iOS 7

Oh, good! I'm glad you remember now! Memory is such a tricky thing, especially for us old farts! :)
 

macrem

macrumors 65816
Mar 11, 2008
1,438
102
I have been an Android user, bought the iPhone 5, went back to Android and now I am back on an iPhone 5 again. Forgot why I hated iOS on the iPhone. I just spent 15 minutes deleting over 1,000 photos from my iPhones photo stream :rolleyes: It wasnt good enough I deleted the album from iPhoto on my iMac, they still sat there on my iPhone, wonderful. Then we have albums. If I create a new album and move photos there, why cant I delete them from my camera roll? Try to do that and it deletes them everywhere. Brilliant.
"[...]when you delete a photo from your Photo Stream on an iOS device or a Mac, or on a PC using iCloud Control Panel, that photo will be deleted from the Photo Stream view on all your devices and computers. Each device must be using the required software (see below), and have Photo Stream enabled. Deletions occur automatically as you connect each device to either Wi-Fi or Ethernet.

Copies of Photo Stream photos you have saved to your Camera Roll on an iOS device or imported into events in your iPhoto or Aperture library, and photos you have copied into a folder on your PC that's not part of My Photo Stream, will not be deleted when you delete photos from Photo Stream."


http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5125

Then we have ringtones. Apple has made a living off MP3s (iPod) but you can't just download one and set it as a ringtone. Why not?
You can get (free) ringtones in the AppStore or to convert mp3's, you'd have to do something like this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/156234/Turn_Any_MP3_into_an_iPhone_Ringtone.html

Not sure if this was a decision to help minimize issues caused by tech-unsaavy users selecting songs with long, quiet lead-ins & then contacting Support because they can't hear incoming calls &/or to minimize annoying/gaudy ringtones from iPhones.

if someone emails me a number and I click it, I only get the option to call it. I have to copy it, open my keypad, paste it, then add it. On an Android, I can long press the number and call it, add it to my contacts, text it etc...Its things like this that are going to lead me to sell the iphone 5 and get the S4 when it comes out. Unless Apple can address such simple things with iOS 7
This is the only item on your list that has ever bothered me, although rarely & slightly. In Europe, some people have a habit of formatting their number like this:

+33 (0)6 11111111

"33" is a country code only needed when dialing from outside the country, zero is only needed inside. If you don't put the zero (i.e., "+33611111111"), then the number can be dialed from anywhere on (smart)phones.

On my iPhone if someone emails me a number with the zero, I have to long press to add it to the address book and remove the zero. If you just dial, the number won't work & you can't modify the number directly from the dialer. It must be edited elsewhere first. Perhaps this matter could be addressed in iOS 7.

But you can long press phone numbers to add to the address book & I can also easily make a longer list than this about Android, or just say I still find iOS is smoother and a more simple, efficient, straightforward OS with richer apps. It comes down to personal preferences.
 
Last edited:

johnjefferson

macrumors regular
Original poster
Feb 23, 2013
136
0
I know right. iPhone 5 has been out less than 1 year.

Seems like a lot of Android users here keep going back to the iPhone because they forgot how much they hate the iPhone and iOS. :D

----------



Your Note 2 just broke?

Do you remember how it broke? ;)

Turns out the Note 2 doesn't like to be thrown across a room and land on a hardwood floor. Who knew?
 

fredaroony

macrumors 6502a
Aug 1, 2011
670
0
Yeah, the Note 2 can "just break". My screen broke, and repairs options are limited as I dont want to spend a night working on the note with my two little kids around. Sending it to Samsung for repair, 180 bucks and 2 weeks. I love the phone, never dreamed it would get a cracked screen from an 18inch drop

Any device can just break if it hits the right spot.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
Then we have ringtones. Apple has made a living off MP3s (iPod) but you can't just download one and set it as a ringtone. Why not? On my Android phones I could set one as anything I like. More jumping thru hoops in iOS to do something as simple as add a ringtone.

I hear you. I couldn't believe how convoluted it was to move my wife's ringtone to her iPhone. When the process includes changing the iTunes import settings and using a DOS prompt to rename a file, something is just not right.
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
1,123
1
I have been an Android user, bought the iPhone 5, went back to Android and now I am back on an iPhone 5 again. Forgot why I hated iOS on the iPhone. I just spent 15 minutes deleting over 1,000 photos from my iPhones photo stream :rolleyes: It wasnt good enough I deleted the album from iPhoto on my iMac, they still sat there on my iPhone, wonderful. Then we have albums. If I create a new album and move photos there, why cant I delete them from my camera roll? Try to do that and it deletes them everywhere. Brilliant.

Then we have ringtones. Apple has made a living off MP3s (iPod) but you can't just download one and set it as a ringtone. Why not? On my Android phones I could set one as anything I like. More jumping thru hoops in iOS to do something as simple as add a ringtone. Then we have lots of little annoyances like if someone emails me a number and I click it, I only get the option to call it. I have to copy it, open my keypad, paste it, then add it. On an Android, I can long press the number and call it, add it to my contacts, text it etc...Its things like this that are going to lead me to sell the iphone 5 and get the S4 when it comes out. Unless Apple can address such simple things with iOS 7

Also it's way easier to activate mobile hotspot on Android than iOS. In ios you have to hit settings, general, cellular, personal hotspot. On android, simply pull down the notification bar and tap the button.

Closing multiple apps is actually easier on Android too. On android you can close them all at once, but in iOS you have to close them one by one.

The multitasking is way better on Android as well.

But give ios time to steal more features from android and things will improve
 

johnjefferson

macrumors regular
Original poster
Feb 23, 2013
136
0
Having said what I did about the shortcomings of the iPhone and iOS, there are some things it really excels at. The camera takes better photos than any Android phone I have had, including the Galaxy line. The audio from videos is superb, especially at concerts or loud sporting events. Every Android phone I have shot video with at a concert, the audio is so badly muffled and distorted, I stopped even trying. The audio from the iPhone sounds almost as clean as audio off the soundboard, its excellent.

Another big sticking point for me is in car audio. My head unit is built for iPod/iPhone, so when I plug it in via USB, everything comes up on the head unit meaning I never have to look at my phone to navigate thru my music. Plus, it charges while playing music, win/win. Accessories are another thing. It was hard to even find nice cases for my Android phones, everyone carries tons of cases, bags, holsters etc...for iPhones.

Facebook and Instagram app on iPhone are way more polished, much faster and GPS locks in instantly when checking in. Also, the Around Me app is unrivaled, no Android app I used comes close to it. Lastly is the iPhones integration with Apple TV. I can be laying in bed and looking thru my photos, videos and online clips and stream them right to my TV. So these are reasons its hard for me to let go of the iPhone completely.
 

ugahairydawgs

macrumors 68030
Jun 10, 2010
2,965
2,472
Having said what I did about the shortcomings of the iPhone and iOS, there are some things it really excels at. The camera takes better photos than any Android phone I have had, including the Galaxy line. The audio from videos is superb, especially at concerts or loud sporting events. Every Android phone I have shot video with at a concert, the audio is so badly muffled and distorted, I stopped even trying. The audio from the iPhone sounds almost as clean as audio off the soundboard, its excellent.

Another big sticking point for me is in car audio. My head unit is built for iPod/iPhone, so when I plug it in via USB, everything comes up on the head unit meaning I never have to look at my phone to navigate thru my music. Plus, it charges while playing music, win/win. Accessories are another thing. It was hard to even find nice cases for my Android phones, everyone carries tons of cases, bags, holsters etc...for iPhones.

Facebook and Instagram app on iPhone are way more polished, much faster and GPS locks in instantly when checking in. Also, the Around Me app is unrivaled, no Android app I used comes close to it. Lastly is the iPhones integration with Apple TV. I can be laying in bed and looking thru my photos, videos and online clips and stream them right to my TV. So these are reasons its hard for me to let go of the iPhone completely.

To me....that's why I stick with iPhone year after year. There's no doubt that Android devices have buckets of features that just aren't there on iOS. But, for me at least, the things that iOS does well outweighs the benefits of the extra features that Android has. Add in the polish of iOS and for some (me included) that's enough to win the battle.

The good thing about it all is that we all have good options to choose from. While iOS may be what works best for me...that's obviously not the case for everyone. The problem we run into is that a lot of people figure out what's best for them and then expand that out to think that their right choice is the right choice for all (my theory is that its either that or they are just trying to convince themselves they made the right choice)....and that's where the bickering among users tends to come in.
 

fredaroony

macrumors 6502a
Aug 1, 2011
670
0
To me....that's why I stick with iPhone year after year. There's no doubt that Android devices have buckets of features that just aren't there on iOS. But, for me at least, the things that iOS does well outweighs the benefits of the extra features that Android has. Add in the polish of iOS and for some (me included) that's enough to win the battle.

The good thing about it all is that we all have good options to choose from. While iOS may be what works best for me...that's obviously not the case for everyone. The problem we run into is that a lot of people figure out what's best for them and then expand that out to think that their right choice is the right choice for all (my theory is that its either that or they are just trying to convince themselves they made the right choice)....and that's where the bickering among users tends to come in.

Having used both OS's extensively I really don't get the "iOS is more polished" argument anymore.

I would love someone to explain it to me in a way that makes sense i.e. non Android bashing way.

I'm not saying iOS is bad either.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
7,467
5,097
Having used both OS's extensively I really don't get the "iOS is more polished" argument anymore.

I would love someone to explain it to me in a way that makes sense i.e. non Android bashing way.

I'm not saying iOS is bad either.

For me personally, I find it visually more polished. On iOS, the UI elements have much finer detail, appear to almost have depth and far crisper graphics. For example, UI buttons have texture, almost seem raised where I find Android generally to be much more flat and simple. Best analogy I can come up with would be computer generated graphics vs. finely hand drawn pictures where iOS is the CGI. Also, for the most part, everything seems to fit together nicely from the OS UI to the individual apps while Android can have moments of disjointedness and inconsistency.

And please don't take these as absolutes, just rather my general perception. I don't find the differences between the two to be vast but certainly noticeable to my eye/taste and cleary, well, different. And to be honest, if I didn't find the differences so noticeable, it would probably be a lot easier for me to kick the iPhone to the curb entirely, considering it's many shortcomings. This is just one area where I feel it excels and personally carries quite a bit of weight with me.

Also, before I'm accused of being an iOS 'homer' and biased, I have used both OS extensively over the past year and am presently waiting for my new phone, an HTC One, to be delivered this Friday--can't wait!
 

adnbek

macrumors 68000
Oct 22, 2011
1,584
551
Montreal, Quebec
Having used both OS's extensively I really don't get the "iOS is more polished" argument anymore.

I would love someone to explain it to me in a way that makes sense i.e. non Android bashing way.

I'm not saying iOS is bad either.

The fact that with technically weaker hardware, iPhones can perform as fast, if not faster, than the latest and greatest in real world use and in benchmarks.

Battery life is also one of the best in its class when its battery is relatively tiny compared to the competition.

Those would be the 2 main arguments I believe and is mostly due to the software being written specifically for the hardware it runs on.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
The fact that with technically weaker hardware, iPhones can perform as fast, if not faster, than the latest and greatest in real world use and in benchmarks.

Battery life is also one of the best in its class when its battery is relatively tiny compared to the competition.

Those would be the 2 main arguments I believe and is mostly due to the software being written specifically for the hardware it runs on.

A6 isn't weak, the gpu isn't weak, and judging from my LTe browsing timings, the battery is starting to show its limits too.

----------

When you put photos in Albums, they aren't "moved" to them. Albums are just a way to sort your photos into categories, but all the photos, even those in an album, are actually still in the camera roll.

They are similar to playlists with music.

Wow, thanks for the explanation. So that is how they do it in ios.

Seems like a crap implementation. I don't view my photos like I view my music and I would rather actually keep them separate than making "playlists" of photos. I wonder who's the smart guy making that decision at apple hq.
 

adnbek

macrumors 68000
Oct 22, 2011
1,584
551
Montreal, Quebec
A6 isn't weak, the gpu isn't weak, and judging from my LTe browsing timings, the battery is starting to show its limits too.

Oh definitely not. But even newer phones with faster CPUs (according to geekbench scores) cannot outperform it at the moment. As for GPU, that's another matter. No doubt the 5 has the most powerful GPU in phones today, but that pertains more to games and I'm referring to just normal use of the phone like browsing, rendering webpages, switching applications, scrolling, etc. In fact, when I installed Fakeclockup (when it was jailbroken), it blew my mind how fast the phone can actually be.

My battery life is as good as on the 4 so far. I'm pretty happy with it. With normal use which includes regular browsing, texting, calling and some light gaming throughout the day, I come home with about 30-50% left. Not too shabby. Nothing disabled except wifi and push email, with brightness around 50% or lower.

With high loads like gaming, definitely I find that the battery drains faster, but under normal loads it can last a very long while.
----------


Wow, thanks for the explanation. So that is how they do it in ios.

Seems like a crap implementation. I don't view my photos like I view my music and I would rather actually keep them separate than making "playlists" of photos. I wonder who's the smart guy making that decision at apple hq.

Agreed.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
Having used both OS's extensively I really don't get the "iOS is more polished" argument anymore.

I would love someone to explain it to me in a way that makes sense i.e. non Android bashing way.

I'm not saying iOS is bad either.

The problem I find with Android apps is that some of them don't look or work like Android apps. They look or work too much like iOS apps. It's like the app developer made a half-ass job of making an Android app and decided to be lazy because they already have an iOS app and just copied it.
 

roxxette

macrumors 68000
Aug 9, 2011
1,507
0
The problem I find with Android apps is that some of them don't look or work like Android apps. They look or work too much like iOS apps. It's like the app developer made a half-ass job of making an Android app and decided to be lazy because they already have an iOS app and just copied it.

Can you link an example of wich apps are like that ?
 

xraydoc

Contributor
Oct 9, 2005
11,031
5,492
192.168.1.1
Wow, thanks for the explanation. So that is how they do it in ios.

Seems like a crap implementation. I don't view my photos like I view my music and I would rather actually keep them separate than making "playlists" of photos. I wonder who's the smart guy making that decision at apple hq.

Wait, so Gmail uses "labels" which allows multiple emails to be present in more than one place, and playlists allow individual songs to be in more than one place, but a picture library that allows pictures to be in more than one place is somehow an idiotic idea?

While I'm certainly no Apple-at-all-costs white knight, I think your logic here is incorrect, perhaps just to Apple bash. Personally, I'm quite pleased with having a picture available in more than one category ("album"). I think it's a feature that Google should implement on Android. It would certainly fit in well with Gmail labels and Google Music playlists (and Picassa albums).
 

JHUFrank

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2010
652
66
I agree. Even if it only has access to a limited number of folders. The whole sync model served its purpose for file management, but its time to move on.
Exactly and i dont remember any "malwares" back then; file manager needs to happend ! The ipad craves one.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
Can you link an example of wich apps are like that ?

My banking app (Scotia Bank) has some rather odd behaviour. At various points of the app, hitting the back button exits the app instead of taking me to the previous screen. It has no landscape orientation, so it is useless on my tablet when my keyboard is docked (which is almost all the time).
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.