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Now I remember why I got rid of my iPhone
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That or crappy landscape orientation. The Facebook app is a classic example of how not to do landscape. The Google+ app is a classic example of how to do it correctly.
That does not sound like iOS being more polished. If I am not mistaken that is what he asked. I have used both android and iOS and like both, but I do prefer android just a bit more. Android for the longest time was really rough around the edges, and iOS has always been smooth. I still liked android back then too just for the simple fact of customization. Back then I would have said wothout a doubt iOS is way more smooth. Now though after jellybean I really can't say that. My nexus 4 is just as smooth as my iPhone 5 was. Now I will say iOS still has more apps, and maybe some are better because they were developed for iOS first. I cant call iOS more polished because android runs great now.
I do find that iOS user that say iOS is more polished have used a skinned version on android. Now I know people will say that is the most widely used kind of android, but it is not comparing apples to apples if you do that. If you compare the nexus 4 and the iPhone 5 for OS smoothness and just over of use. You could not still say iOS is more polished. I will ask it again because maybe I am wrong about what polished means, but how is is more polished? I don't want how it can out preform android with lower specs. That has nothing to do with iOS being polished. How does iOS run better?
Define polished then, because an OS that's light weight, fluid and fast is mine.
You mean a simple OS that requires not much of anything to run. I consider polish as being smooth, and fluid. IOS has always been smooth and fluid easy to use. Now android is just as polished.
Finally. Somone with common sense. Someone that explains things well, without being overtly biased.
I think part of the reason why Android doesn't look as good is a variety of othings. For one, they try to put it on as many phones as possible. So if the better looking ui takes up more power, that single core 1ghz processor might not cut it.
Secondly, the Android handset makers love to put their own skin on top of the OS, so it's almost no use to make vanilla look pretty.
But I do feel like at many times Android isn't made for people, but tweakers.
I would be perfectly happy if the back button never took me out of ANY app. I have a home button for that.
Michael
Even simple things like being able to share a file or video is a breeze on Android.
Have you ever used stock android? You can make it look as "pretty" as you want. I don't understand the part about " not being made for people, but tweakers". So is it made for aliens or what do you mean by "tweakers"? If you are talking about "people" that like to play around with their phones and tweak them I am pretty sure they are still people. Android is not for everyone just like iOS is not for everyone, but one is not any better looking than the other it is all just taste. I think android looks great, but other people don't. That does not make it ugly.
Re-read what I wrote.
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OK, so now I got your point. You hate iOS. Move on.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/10
And from a recent review of the HTC One here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/12
The A6, despite being slower, can still be on par with CPUs that get 1.5x-2x Geekbench scores.
Oh, and whatever you do, don't flip to the next page of either link. You don't want to compare GPUs.... That's a whole different discussion.
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I know I'll sound like a few rare people, but I'll go back to apple when the iphone gets a larger screen. I'm on the Internet too much to put up with that small screen. I have less than zero confidence that it will happen on the next version. And as long as apple can milk the fanboys, and sell them the same sized phone for maybe, ANOTHER version ( with an additional "s" version), ill stick with HTC and Samsung. I've realized that I like android, and the larger screen is exactly what I wanted.
I've owned every iPhone since the first ( and on the first day), except for the iPhone 5, because there were too many options, and felt that apple was milking the very people that LOVE the company.
BTW, apple better not try to just come out with a .25 " larger phone and try to sell THAT to the fanboys ( I used to be one). tHEN ( after an S version) sell them a . 50 larger screen. I could absolutely see them doing that now. The milking must stop.
I've owned every iPhone since the first ( and on the first day), except for the iPhone 5, because there were too many options, and felt that apple was milking the very people that LOVE the company.
BTW, apple better not try to just come out with a .25 " larger phone and try to sell THAT to the fanboys ( I used to be one). tHEN ( after an S version) sell them a . 50 larger screen. I could absolutely see them doing that now. The milking must stop.
Oh really? You are you one saying that the iPhone blows android away with less specs. I am just pointing the fact android has a lot more to run than iOS. I said nothing was wrong with it being simple. That is part of what makes iOS what it is. They don't have widgets or things running in the background to make the OS work hard. I do like iOS I have an iPhone.
You can tell me how the iPhone can bet android with less specs, but I can careless about benchmarks. I care about real word use and using my nexus 4 and it is no slower than my iPhone 5. I am not hater I just get tired of people talking about iphones doing more with less. Look at how different each OS runs.
I'm tempted by the HTC One myself. I'll never ditch my iPhone but HTC One's one sweeeet phone.
And I agree, I wouldn't mind an iPhone with a bigger screen. It's a bit more complicated with Apple though. There's a technical reason for them being so slow at increasing screen size. iOS is not resolution independent.
On the plus side, that's why iPad apps are so well-made vs. Android. Developers are forced to create a new UI for the different resolution. They can't just have their app stretch and fit the screen automatically like on Android.
On the negative side however, Apple would rather not create too many resolutions that developers need to deal with hence why they haven't change the screen size as drastically (or as often
) as in the Android space.What Apple should do is integrate a form of resolution independence but for two categories: Phones and tablets. That way, within a certain boundary, they can have phones being of several sizes without forcing a developer to re-write his app. But for anything going beyond 5" let's say, there would be another resolution that's used and that resolution would also be independent of screen sizes up to 10".
Anyway, it's not as easy as on Android to just come up with a screen size out of the blue on iOS currently. They'll have to rewrite the OS first to change this system to allow for resolution independence, but at the same time they don't want developers to be lazy and just have their apps stretch and fit any screen size. They clearly want the iPad and iPhone experiences to be different.
It's complicated.
Oh I acknowledge the fact that Android is a more complex operating system and therefore will use more resources to run. What I'm simply saying is that with less resources, iPhones can perform just as fast and as smoothly as an Android phone with a lot more CPU power.
We're just arguing two sides of the same coin actually. You're saying Android is just as smooth as iOS because the specs and CPU speeds are finally powerful enough to make it run smooth, and I'm saying iOS is light and resource-efficient enough that it'll run just as smooth and quick with less power under the hood.
It's just two ways of looking at it and both are correct. I guess our disagreement is on the definition of "polished". To me, it means how efficient, optimized and how little resource-hungry it is, to you it's about functionality and the availability of features and options.
You say potato, I say potato.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/10
And from a recent review of the HTC One here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/12
The A6, despite being slower, can still be on par with CPUs that get 1.5x-2x Geekbench scores.
Oh, and whatever you do, don't flip to the next page of either link. You don't want to compare GPUs.... That's a whole different discussion.
Going off your second link the ip5 only wins in the sunspider test which is more of a benchmark for the browser used and how it handles javascript. In all the other tests the latest Android phones seem to win the benchmarks.
Edit: Your first link does indicate the ip5 is faster, it seems to have some different benchmarks.
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Saying iOS is simple and doesn't use as many resources means he hates it? Good grief.
Oddly enough, my HTC one ( factory unlocked!) will be here on Friday, and I haven't been as excited about receiving a piece of electronics since when the iPhone 4 came out , or the ipad 1 (but not the 4s). I miss this anticipation and get to feel it again, but unfortunately, not about an apple product. HEY, being this excited, over something as stupid as a phone at our age, must be appreciated! We're not 9 anymore!
I am a fan boy, and will come back, but only when the (if EVER) larger iPhone comes out. EVERY other company has gone with the larger format ( even F'n BLACKBERRY - oh the horror!), so only when phone sizes end up going back to the mid 90s size, I'll buy into that apple has made the right decision by keeping their only phone with a 4" screen.
Just my gripe. I'll enjoy other products till then, but will miss apple.
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Yea I agree. I like iOS I still use my iPad 2 every day and love it. I could not do without it. I just think iOS is a much different OS. To me they make it much less complex for 2 reasons. First it make it much easier for everyone to use which makes it sale like crazy. Second to make run smooth. It works for them and many users.
Now I am not saying android just now got enough processing power to keep up with ios. Yes they may be true with some of the skinned versions of android, but the nexus one was smooth and fast like ios. Stock android has always been smooth. When I think polished the nexus one was not that because android was not polished. It was not refined.
The first link compares the 5 with the phones that were current when it was released, some of which already had faster cpus than the 5 if you compare geekbench scores.
In the 2nd link, the 5 is being featured in a chart along with the latest phones available today, but even then the performance difference (5-10%) is still minor when you compare the CPUs. You'd expect a 2-3x difference, not just a tiny bump in speed.
That's what I mean by efficient.
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There was negativity in how he said it. Was trying to point that out. Of course I was kinda snarky in how I said it.
The first link compares the 5 with the phones that were current when it was released, some of which already had faster cpus than the 5 if you compare geekbench scores.
In the 2nd link, the 5 is being featured in a chart along with the latest phones available today, but even then the performance difference (5-10%) is still minor when you compare the CPUs. You'd expect a 2-3x difference, not just a tiny bump in speed.
That's what I mean by efficient.
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There was negativity in how he said it. Was trying to point that out. Of course I was kinda snarky in how I said it.
No you took it as negativity. I was simply stating ios is a much simpler OS which requires less to run. I believe I said something to the effect of " You mean a simple OS that requires not much of anything to run" . That is not negativity just reality.
iOS does take less to run but let's not negate the fact iOS has some tricks up its sleeves that give it fluidity. The UI gets priority functioning and with clever app designing it goes almost unnoticed.
Browsers for example, if you load a busy webpage on iOS and start scrolling before its done the downloading and loading will freeze until you stop. On a mobile platform most don't notices this. The flip side are apps that prioritize loading, like tapatalk. Tapatalk is annoying if your network connection is slow since you are stuck staring at "Loading" and the app is unresponsive. But is still very very fluid. Try doing both at the same time an iOS will stutter, ie Facebook.
Browsers for example, if you load a busy webpage on iOS and start scrolling before its done the downloading and loading will freeze until you stop. On a mobile platform most don't notices this. The flip side are apps that prioritize loading, like tapatalk. Tapatalk is annoying if your network connection is slow since you are stuck staring at "Loading" and the app is unresponsive. But is still very very fluid. Try doing both at the same time an iOS will stutter, ie Facebook.
It's also apparent when there are animated .gifs on a page. Try scrolling and the animation pauses.