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nVidia GTX 1080

Asgorath said:
So 346.03.10f02 on 10.11.5? All the other links you posted before talked about corruption from the healing brush or masks, that's the first I've heard of corruption from resizing. Do you see any problems with the brushes/masks? I only saw reports that the brush corruption was fixed in 346.03.10f01.
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To be specific the artefact corruption errors in the web drivers for 10.11.3 and 10.11.4 were happening with paint brushes, stamp tools and healing brushes. From Nvidia's perspective, you have to upgrade the OS to 10.11.5 because they won't supply a web driver fix for the previous OS version.

The brushes are now working on this test iMac but I only spent a few minutes with the new web driver. Tomorrow I will spend a full working day with the web driver. On the weekend I will confirm with cMP.

Look in the Photoshop benchmark thread. I have reported OpenCL image resize bugs and crashes on the 980 around a year ago. I reported those bugs to Nvidia a dozen or more times and finally had to downgrade the cMP to a 680. With the downgrade the web drivers still did the same thing. OSX's built in driver or disabling OpenCL was the only solution. Again, I have posted that many times on this forum in the last year and it should have been noted well by anyone promoting the web driver and Nvidia cards. But cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing that can blind anyone who doesn't want to see the opposite side of the coin. I am sorry if I was not vocal enough.

Let's see what the weekend brings. I may be able to pick up the 1080 Founders Edition tomorrow.
 
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Okay, so it looks like the brush/stamp/mask corruption bugs have indeed been fixed in 346.03.10f02. How are you reporting the OpenCL resize issue to NVIDIA? It sounds like it's a generic issue and not specific to Maxwell. It's unfortunate that you've been experiencing issues for so long, but it also sounds like Photoshop is the only application that is affected by those problems. I don't use Photoshop and thus haven't run into anything like this, and as I've said elsewhere, the web driver and my TITAN X are running extremely well for the applications/games I use.

Still not sure I understand how this leads you to conclude that Maxwell is running in backwards compatibility mode, but I think we've beaten that horse to death and can agree to disagree.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
From Nvidia's perspective, you have to upgrade the OS to 10.11.5 because they won't supply a web driver fix for the previous OS version.
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And why should they? They do update the drivers for previous OSs, but previous point versions of the current OS. It's hard to understand your logic?

Lou
 
I wouldn't call this "cognitive dissonance" but more "the guy who cried 'wolf'".

You burned up your political capital here with absurdist rants. Off the top of my head I recall one about people wasting money on PCIE SSDs (who cares? It's their money, not yours) and the infamous "old bald men who drive fast cars to steal women from younger less-accomplished guys who deserve them more" rant which I never understood at all, especially why you choose this forum to spew it.

More recently you have been on a rant about an international GPU driver conspiracy where Nvidia is some nefarious bad guy who only wants to pass off last year's driver as a new one. Nvidia's big "conspiracy" is to sell video cards, nothing more.

The stuff about EFI cards having issues in Windows was malarkey so you dropped that from your tantrums.

Jumping up and down about UDA cheats and faked color compression got you branded as...well...the sort of guy who does that. Rant about imaginary conspiracies that never existed.

If one piece of your rants was correct while vast majority placed you in "tin foil hat wearer" category you can't be surprised that nobody listened to you.

Constructive criticism gets listened to, wild "they're all in on it" rants don't.
 
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Asgorath said:
Okay, so it looks like the brush/stamp/mask corruption bugs have indeed been fixed in 346.03.10f02. How are you reporting the OpenCL resize issue to NVIDIA? It sounds like it's a generic issue and not specific to Maxwell. It's unfortunate that you've been experiencing issues for so long, but it also sounds like Photoshop is the only application that is affected by those problems.
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The artefacts issues are appearing in Premiere and AE too. OpenCL bugs in Photoshop and Illustrator. All only occurring with web drivers. Here is yet more reports from last year.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/308903-opencl-gtx970-problem/

As for The man with a history of being in Time Out mode so many times, he is trying to throw dirt, twisted sentences, fabrications and insults about yet another person. Same old story. Say sorry to your customers. You didn't warn them about the crucial widespread bugs with the web drivers and you failed to provide information from Nvidia that the drivers only had beta support for Maxwell.
[doublepost=1464298392][/doublepost]Scratch the 1080 Founder's Edition. Apparently this card suffers from throttling that can only be overcome with making liquid cooling mods or software settings. Neither if these two can be done on cMP and only the first can be done on a Hackintosh.
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
The artefacts issues are appearing in Premiere and AE too. OpenCL bugs in Photoshop and Illustrator. All only occurring with web drivers. Here is yet more reports from last year.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/308903-opencl-gtx970-problem/

As for The man with a history of being in Time Out mode so many times, he is trying to throw dirt, twisted sentences, and insults about yet another person. Same old story. Say sorry to your customers. You didn't warn them about the crucial widespread bugs with the web drivers and you failed to provide information from Nvidia that the drivers only had beta support for Maxwell.
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For chrisT sake Soy please stop. You are referring to the post where the config of hackintosh itself could be the culprit... I have cmp with 680 from mvc and everything works great on OS X and Adobe apps and the games plays smoothly on Windows even in sli. So please stop it... I will definitely buy 1080 from mvc from certified eu seller :)
 
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Norbert Mikołajczyk said:
For chrisT sake Soy please stop. You are referring to the post where the config of hackintosh itself could be the culprit...
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Am afraid that is not the case as this has been thoroughly examined by both cMP and Hack users. The culprit was and is the web driver every time.

This weekend I will elaborate further by testing the web driver with several machines and several OSX's from Mavericks to El Cap.

But go ahead and blow your money if you want. Me posting results of various tests doesn't mean you are being told not to spend your money how you want. But there are people who are very grateful to know that ther money is better saved for a new system instead of trying to save a dying machine. You have SLI in your cMP.........congrats ahem
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
The artefacts issues are appearing in Premiere and AE too. OpenCL bugs in Photoshop and Illustrator. All only occurring with web drivers. Here is yet more reports from last year.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/308903-opencl-gtx970-problem/
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You didn't answer my question. How are you personally reporting these bugs to NVIDIA? You said you had done that a dozen or more times. Linking random forum posts on this forum doesn't exactly count as reporting a bug to NVIDIA.

That post is also 6 months old. Are you sure the crashing bugs haven't been fixed?
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
Scratch the 1080 Founder's Edition. Apparently this card suffers from throttling that can only be overcome with making liquid cooling mods or software settings. Neither if these two can be done on cMP and only the first can be done on a Hackintosh.
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It actually looks like it's more of a fan profile issue in the driver. If fan ramps up to 80% speed, no throttling. Louder yes, throttling no. This will likely be addressed in the next NVIDIA driver update. No big deal, and dare I say it, a rather alarmist post from you Soy.

Custom cards will likely be cooler however, and crucially quieter. I have my eye on an EVGA SC which apparently is single 8-pin. Here's hoping it will get the MVC treatment!
 
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Squuiid said:

It actually looks like it's more of a fan profile issue in the driver. If fan ramps up to 80% speed, no throttling. Louder yes, throttling no. This will likely be addressed in the next NVIDIA driver update. No big deal, and dare I say it, a rather alarmist post from you Soy.
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If an update fixes it cool, but that would be Windows only solution for now.
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Asgorath said:
You didn't answer my question. How are you personally reporting these bugs to NVIDIA? You said you had done that a dozen or more times. Linking random forum posts on this forum doesn't exactly count as reporting a bug to NVIDIA.

That post is also 6 months old. Are you sure the crashing bugs haven't been fixed?
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I will verify all outstanding bugs this weekend.

Nvidia has a bug reporting form online, it is painful to fill out and requires registration and personal details. Also, whenever the resize bug crashes Photoshop a window pops up to report the crash. Unfortunately that reports only to Adobe but I will filled it out every time hoping they would let Nvidia know.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
Scratch the 1080 Founder's Edition. Apparently this card suffers from throttling that can only be overcome with making liquid cooling mods or software settings. Neither if these two can be done on cMP and only the first can be done on a Hackintosh.
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
If an update fixes it cool, but that would be Windows only solution for now.
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I don't think anyone here is buying a 1080 to do hardcore gaming in OS X however.
Chances of throttling a 1080 FE in everyday use on OS X is likely pretty low.
Plus we don't even have an OS X web driver yet, so this is all speculation anyway. The fan fix may well be in there from day one.
 
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Squuiid said:
I don't think anyone here is buying a 1080 to do hardcore gaming in OS X.
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I'm buying it for my PC. That gives me a reason to buy it and then just test it in the cMP for anyone who wants detailed performance charts. After that I'm going to sell the cMP because I barely use it anymore.

If you're lucky you can find a 1080 in a store this weekend, pop it in your cMP and test it yourself. If you like it or not you can just refund it with some excuse.
 
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Pretty desperate attempt to toss mud on Nvidia.

Sorry that AMD never competed with last gen (Maxwell) High End cards before next series re-trumped them.

Sorry AMD hasn't bothered to write useable OSX drivers for their last two generations of high end. (Hawaii and Fuji)

Like it or not, Nvidia is all we have. Trying to find a thing to complain about looks rather petty.
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
Latest web driver, latest El Cap, latest Photoshop. Before I test on the cMP with a full fat GPU, I tested on iMac 2014 with GT 755M. OpenCL enabled. You can see from this simple test that artefacts and error calculations still persist.
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Do these problems occur in Affinity Photo or Pixelmator, or is it only Adobe apps suffering from it?
 
The 1080 does light thermal throttling, as does every graphics card with a reference design cooling. You can live with it or lift the thermal limit, or wait for better cooled designs from other manufacturers.
 
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mattspace said:
Do these problems occur in Affinity Photo or Pixelmator, or is it only Adobe apps suffering from it?
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I'm sorry I don't use these apps.

Lol to the man who thinks I'm some kind of AMD agent. I have been using only Nvidia desktop cards since the Riva 128 days. Note: last year I created a thread where the serious users among us listed every GPU we ever owned and used. I didn't list a single Radeon desktop card.

Today all the custom 1080 models have been listed and released. All of the ones I have seen are 8+6 pin or dual 8 pin.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
I'm sorry I don't use these apps.

Lol to the man who thinks I'm some kind of AMD agent. I have been using only Nvidia desktop cards since the Riva 128 days. Note: last year I created a thread where the serious users among us listed every GPU we ever owned and used. I didn't list a single Radeon desktop card.

Today all the custom 1080 models have been listed and released. All of the ones I have seen are 8+6 pin or dual 8 pin.
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Which custom models are you referring to as being listed and released and all having either 8+6 pin or dual 8 pin?
 
benjaprud said:
The 1080 does light thermal throttling, as does every graphics card with a reference design cooling. You can live with it or lift the thermal limit, or wait for better cooled designs from other manufacturers.
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Actually, as JayzTwo said on it's video, you only need to up the voltage limitation and slightly raise the fan speed. By default the voltage limit is locked and it also cause the card to throtle.
 
^^^^That's the so called "Founders Edition". All, I am told are built by Nvidia and sold by the Nvidia partners. All are identical and all retail for the same amount - $699.00 in the USA. And all have one 8 pin connector. From what I have seen most of the partner's repackaged GPus will also have one 8 pin connector, though some may have a higher power requirement than the Founders Edition 180 watts and therefore have more connectors.

Lou
 
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i make movies said:
Did anyone manage to get their hands on on these bad boys yet and pop it in a Mac just to see what's what?
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As a repeat customer of MVC I look forward to the possibility these will run in 5.1 Mac Pro machines for DaVinci Resolve. Or better yet to stuff a few into a Cubix XPander.
 
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