Wait till NVIDIA launch their Quadro version of the Z, it'll cost a tad more most likely
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Wait till NVIDIA launch their Quadro version of the Z, it'll cost a tad more most likely
Same as K6000, which is a lot slower than this new card and costs 2K more. Shouldn't compare gaming GPU's to workstation cards.
Although, after reading the specs for the card, I was hoping Nvidia would come up with a new core after 1.5 years of the original Titan. This still uses GK110 but two of them. I wonder how much faster it'll be than 2X Titans considering it's downclocked.
Nvidia said it has 8 TFLOPS performance, which is not that far off from Apple's dual D700's, and this costs much more. Better get dual Titan Blacks for 2000$ if you want performance.
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Does it have the same level of driver support? Is it guaranteed to work in Pro level software like conventional workstation graphics?
The Titan line in general, but especially the Z, seems to have a confused identity. I watched it's release at GDC and it was marketed as a supercomputer in your hand. It was about computing power, not gaming performance. It carries the GeForce and Titan names, but it doesn't seem to be aimed at gamers. Not with a $3,000 price tag anyway.
So, if it's aimed at CUDA developers, DCC artists, and number crunchers, why not call it a Tesla branch? Why a GeForce? That's the part I don't get.
Nvidia is dumb..they should just have titan be there top of the line single gpu at all time..so a maxwell titan should be titan 2 and so on and be the top dog single gpu..leave there dual gpu to the 90 series. This make sense for people using mini itx and want the most of gaming because they physically dont have 2 slots..and make 1 iteration of the 80 series for the gamers..no need for blacks haha z's , mars, ti and all this dumb stuff.
My reference 780 overclocked to 1200mhz sees eye to eye with the stock ti and titan...i know i dont have that double precision stuff so make that titan ecxlusive ..people that need two of those usually have ws boards that got many of pcie slots so just buy two..
My reference 780 overclocked to 1200mhz sees eye to eye with the stock ti and titan...i know i dont have that double precision stuff so make that titan ecxlusive ..people that need two of those usually have ws boards that got many of pcie slots so just buy two..
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I have to agree with this. I'm tired of all the silly names, incremental increases for massive increases in price, and trying to confuse people with naming schemes.
The Z is a just a GTX 780 Ti X2 dual card, and if you're a top end gamer that wants to play at 4K at maxed settings they just get separate cards for cheaper.
What happened to the days of getting a Flagship GPU for around £350-£400 at most. :/
Sadly, those days are mostly history. For more and more retailers, "Gouge them" is today's more prevalent approach. But you can let a closed wallet do the talking while you search for real bargains.
That's true. I tend to avoid flagship or halo cards now.
The Titanblack is ~1000, while great as a flagship it's not a huge jump in performance over the previous card.
Consumers are to blame as well, for actually indulging in the prices and buying.
Let your software application and business needs guide your choices.
No doubt about it when it comes to "The New." You can also find some very good deals on "The Used" on E-bay, particularly if Fermi meets your needs. Caveat: Fermi cards usually have much less vram; but in the form of a GTX like a GTX 590 (it's like having two GTX 570s in one slot) can be a ~ $300 -$400 compute GPU monster. Each GTX 590's 1024 Fermi cores are the equivalent of about 3072 Kepler cores. For those who can fit in only a single compute card, I wouldn't tend to recommend a Fermi GTX now for all around needs given the smaller vram size. However, for those who use different GPUs for different needs, "The Used" GTX 590 can't be beat [and the vast majority of them are still within the warranty period].
BTW - One GTX 590 beats one oRD Titan in the OctaneRender Benchmark. One GTX 590, untweaked, is 1.13 faster at OctaneRender than one oRD Titan. Tweaked, the GTX 590 is about 1.2x faster. I've got a number of 590s in four double wide PCIe slotted systems (like my systems based on the GA-X79-UP4 (rev. 1.1) motherboard -it's under $250 too ["Yes, I'm Mr. Cheap."]). They'll crush many render jobs. So, lets see - for about $4K one could have:
4 GTX 590s for (usually less than) $1,500 TOTAL on an under
$250 motherboard ($243 to be exact) powered by a
$300 1600 Watt COOLMAX ZPS-1600B PSU in a
$140 SilverStone Raven Series RV03B-WA Matte Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case (that dangles the GPUs vertically - it helps to keep them very cool) accompanied by a
$95 CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i High Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler laying on top of an overclocked
$580 Intel Core i7-4930K Ivy Bridge-E 3.4GHz CPU (mine are the 8-core E5-4650 V1 ES QBED [the E5-2680 V1 equivalent] that I bought on E-bay for about $500 ea.) surrounded by
$880 of 64 gig of overclocked CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 MHz ram shunting computations to a
$150 SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 2.5" 250GB SATA 6Gb/s TLC Internal SSD for storage. And you can throw in a few
$144 Western Digital Black WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drives if you need more storage.
Voila! - the renderfarm equivalent of 12,288 Kepler cores [ 1024 (one Fermi 590) * 3 (the Kepler core equivalent) * 4 (the no. of 590s) = 12,288 Kepler cores]. Of course, given that it's from me, it's all on the cheap. No Z in that name at all. Well, I was partially wrong - there're subliminal Zs in it, actually the compute potential of over two Titan Zs (Each Titan Z will have 5760 Kepler cores [ 5760 * 2
= 11,520 ] ), but with much, much less vram. However, for the right jobs (and that covers most of the ones that I have), they meet my needs.
No doubt about it when it comes to "The New." You can also find some very good deals on "The Used" on E-bay, particularly if Fermi meets your needs. Caveat: Fermi cards usually have much less vram; but in the form of a GTX like a GTX 590 (it's like having two GTX 570s in one slot) can be a ~ $300 -$400 compute GPU monster. Each GTX 590's 1024 Fermi cores are the equivalent of about 3072 Kepler cores. For those who can fit in only a single compute card, I wouldn't tend to recommend a Fermi GTX now for all around needs given the smaller vram size. However, for those who use different GPUs for different needs, "The Used" GTX 590 can't be beat [and the vast majority of them are still within the warranty period].
BTW - One GTX 590 beats one oRD Titan in the OctaneRender Benchmark. One GTX 590, untweaked, is 1.13 faster at OctaneRender than one oRD Titan. Tweaked, the GTX 590 is about 1.2x faster. I've got a number of 590s in four double wide PCIe slotted systems (like my systems based on the GA-X79-UP4 (rev. 1.1) motherboard -it's under $250 too ["Yes, I'm Mr. Cheap."]). They'll crush many render jobs. So, lets see - for about $4K one could have:
4 GTX 590s for (usually less than) $1,500 TOTAL on an under
$250 motherboard ($243 to be exact) powered by a
$300 1600 Watt COOLMAX ZPS-1600B PSU in a
$140 SilverStone Raven Series RV03B-WA Matte Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case (that dangles the GPUs vertically - it helps to keep them very cool) accompanied by a
$95 CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i High Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler laying on top of an overclocked
$580 Intel Core i7-4930K Ivy Bridge-E 3.4GHz CPU (mine are the 8-core E5-4650 V1 ES QBED [the E5-2680 V1 equivalent] that I bought on E-bay for about $500 ea.) surrounded by
$880 of 64 gig of overclocked CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 MHz ram shunting computations to a
$150 SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 2.5" 250GB SATA 6Gb/s TLC Internal SSD for storage. And you can throw in a few
$144 Western Digital Black WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drives if you need more storage.
Voila! - the renderfarm equivalent of 12,288 Kepler cores [ 1024 (one Fermi 590) * 3 (the Kepler core equivalent) * 4 (the no. of 590s) = 12,288 Kepler cores]. Of course, given that it's from me, it's all on the cheap. No Z in that name at all. Well, I was partially wrong - there're subliminal Zs in it, actually the compute potential of over two Titan Zs (Each Titan Z will have 5760 Kepler cores [ 5760 * 2
= 11,520 ] ), but with much, much less vram. However, for the right jobs (and that covers most of the ones that I have), they meet my needs.
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Keep in mind the Titan line, as it does better double-precision math than other GTX cards, is as much "Entry level GPU computing" as it is "Top end gaming" in terms of the card use, and is actually priced accordingly.
Heck, the name even comes from the supercomputer.
Still they are being marketed as gaming cards. Nvidia touted them as "ready for 5K gaming".
titan black and OS 10.9.4
What would have to happen to allow or has anyone heard if the web driver 334.01.01f04 will allow the Titan Black (non mac version) work in 10.9.4 on a MacPro 5,1
Tomorrow i'm loading 10.9.2 and the 331.01.01f01 in hopes of making it work will this order work?
1. load 10.9.2 (10.9 then upgrade to 10.9.2 with combo installer)
2. load webdriver 331.01.01f01
3. shut down.
4. load titan card into machine
5. reboot.
Shane
What would have to happen to allow or has anyone heard if the web driver 334.01.01f04 will allow the Titan Black (non mac version) work in 10.9.4 on a MacPro 5,1
Tomorrow i'm loading 10.9.2 and the 331.01.01f01 in hopes of making it work will this order work?
1. load 10.9.2 (10.9 then upgrade to 10.9.2 with combo installer)
2. load webdriver 331.01.01f01
3. shut down.
4. load titan card into machine
5. reboot.
Shane
^^^^For 10.9.4 you want web driver version 334.01.02 available here:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
and Cuda driver 6.0.51 available here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/mac-driver-archive.html
Lou
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
and Cuda driver 6.0.51 available here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/mac-driver-archive.html
Lou
My Titan black is not flashed. I was under the impression that I wouldn't need to flash it since my gtx580 and the gtx680 4gb that weren't flashed worked.
So I guess I should ask, am I wrong? And what do I need to do to get this non-flashed Titan black to work in my Mac Pro 5,1?
So I guess I should ask, am I wrong? And what do I need to do to get this non-flashed Titan black to work in my Mac Pro 5,1?
^^^^No you are not wrong. It should work fine, but with no boot screen. But, again, why not just go straight off with OS 10.9.4. BTW, Cuda driver 6.0.54 is now available, but no link to direct download yet. You can get it if you install 6.0.51 and then update from the control panel.
Lou
Lou
ok giving it a try now.
BTW, i use a GT120 for GUI and will only use the 780Ti Black as GPU
.loading 10.9.4 with 334.01.02f02 web driver.. will report what happens.
thanks for all the great advice!
BTW, i use a GT120 for GUI and will only use the 780Ti Black as GPU
.loading 10.9.4 with 334.01.02f02 web driver.. will report what happens.
thanks for all the great advice!
Lou, thank you very much!
i am now running DaVinci Resolve 11 under OSX 10.9.4, 334.01.02f02 WebDriver, with GT120 GUI, Titan Black as GPU on my Mac 5,1. it's screaming fast in with the 4k RED footage and 2.5k ARRIRAW.
if you ever get out to Sunnyvale, CA i'll show you around my studios and ATMOS Theater (21 custom speakers, 4 x 18" Velodyne subs -20,000+watts, 4k 3d Christie projector, Dolby Cinema server/Atmos Rendering unit, 15 seats).
..again, most appreciated help Lou!
Shane
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Dolby Laboratories
Production Engineer, Producer, Colorist/Editor
i am now running DaVinci Resolve 11 under OSX 10.9.4, 334.01.02f02 WebDriver, with GT120 GUI, Titan Black as GPU on my Mac 5,1. it's screaming fast in with the 4k RED footage and 2.5k ARRIRAW.
if you ever get out to Sunnyvale, CA i'll show you around my studios and ATMOS Theater (21 custom speakers, 4 x 18" Velodyne subs -20,000+watts, 4k 3d Christie projector, Dolby Cinema server/Atmos Rendering unit, 15 seats).
..again, most appreciated help Lou!
Shane
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Dolby Laboratories
Production Engineer, Producer, Colorist/Editor