Off topic I know but I have decided for the time being that Catalina is a waste of time, offering little or no advantage and I dont like the way it partitions the hard drive so i think i'll give it a miss.
Well thanks for confirming that Target Disk mode is not an option.Yep, didn't work.
Got the message from the Catalina installer that it couldn't be installed on that drive saying something about the computer being started into Target Disk Mode. I recognize this from when I tried to do the same with High Sierra from one Mac to another using Target Disk Mode. So it's not new.
Off topic I know but I have decided for the time being that Catalina is a waste of time, offering little or no advantage and I dont like the way it partitions the hard drive so i think i'll give it a miss.
Just a quick question so I understand correctly:
I have to have nvram boot-args="-no_compat_check" set in NVRAM for Catalina to boot? If I reset the NVRAM I have to enter this again (in my case, start up from the recovery partition on a drive with High Sierra and out in the AMD GPU that came with the computer)?
Any GPU that is supported from Recovery will work fine, you will only need to change your GPU to an older one if you have a Catalina exclusive GPU, like Radeon 5700XT.Just a quick question so I understand correctly:
I have to have nvram boot-args="-no_compat_check" set in NVRAM for Catalina to boot? If I reset the NVRAM I have to enter this again (in my case, start up from the recovery partition on a drive with High Sierra and out in the AMD GPU that came with the computer)?
Do I understand you right (regarding the update): You take out the MacPRo 5,1 system SSD (where Catalina runs), connect it externally to the MBP and boot the MBP with it. Then you make the update via the MBP, shut it down, reinstall the SSD to the MacPro and boot the MacPro from the SSD?
That's the plan... I installed 10.15.1, so have not had an update yet. When 10.15.2 comes out, I'll try it and post update here...
Next time just boot the MP in Target mode and boot the MB from there.Happy to report that it worked exactly as I'd hoped...
- removed the drive from the mp5,1 and connected to mbp with a SATA-USB cable
- booted mbp using option key
- update to 10.15.2 using system update
- shutdown mbp
- moved the drive back to the mp5,1
- booted and all up and running on 10.15.2
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Catalina removed support for Firewire Target Mode.Next time just boot the MP in Target mode and boot the MB from there.
It's a question answered on the first post, Apple removed the kexts needed for MacPro 2009 and 2010/2012 AirPort Extremes. Or you install the kexts yourself, or you upgrade to a AirPort Extreme AC (BCM94360CD) that is supported.So let me get this straight if I update to Catalina my WiFi / Bluetooth will not work as the drivers are no longer in the OS?
It's a question answered on the first post, Apple removed the kexts needed for MacPro 2009 and 2010/2012 AirPort Extremes. Or you install the kexts yourself, or you upgrade to a AirPort Extreme AC (BCM94360CD) that is supported.
Installing Catalina from a VMWare Fusion 11.1 Catalina VM to a real disk attached to the VM (using vmware-rawdiskCreator to create/attach the disk):
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Works beautifully and people that don't have a supported Mac to install Catalina have a way to install it to a MP5,1 without the need to do it by hand.
It's a lot more practical and faster than installing it using an USB adaptor + a supported Mac.
As explained on the first post, you just need to add -no_compat_check to the boot-args to boot your MP5,1 from the Catalina disk installed by the Catalina VM.
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You need a Westmere Xeon, any W36xx or X56xx will work. Nehalem Xeons won't work correctly after 10.14.3 and never supported Apple Hypervisor. That's why you can't run Fusion/Docker/Anka/OpenCore VMM flag spoofing.tsialex,
I'd like to try this and have carefully read through all the posts relating to this and every other one. (yes I read each and every post on this feed - all 30 pages).
I acquired VM Fusion Pro 11.5 and tried to install it on my cMP4.1 ->5.1 to find it will not run with my W3540 CPU. It prevents it from running. It gives me an error on install
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In one of your early posts of this feed you say you too have a cMP4.1 ->5.1. How did you get to use VM Fusion 11.1 to do this?
I have a real cMP5,1 as well so I could install on that cMP and swap the SSD but in both macs the SSDs are installed on OWC Mercury Accelsior S PCI cards. Swapping between machines once would not be a hardship but for each upgrade 10.15.2 to 3, to 4 etc would become a hassle.
Advice?
Okay - thanks for such a quick reply - about one minute !!You need a Westmere Xeon, any W36xx or X56xx will work. Nehalem Xeons won't work correctly after 10.14.3 and never supported Apple Hypervisor. That's why you can't run Fusion/Docker/Anka/OpenCore VMM flag spoofing.
I'd buy a X5677, cheap and very fast.
Single tray MP5,1 works fine speed wise after Catalina was released, but people with dual CPU trays have some problems since Apple are not testing it anymore since no 10.15 supported Mac have dual CPUs.In the first post, @tsialex mentioned Catalina was (expectedly?) a little slower on the beta. How does performance on 5,1 feel now that Catalina has been out for a bit?
sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string; sysctl kern.hv_support
That was very useful - wish I'd known about it prior to starting down this road with = VMWare Fusion and Catalina VM attached to a real disk...Since most people don't know how to check if your current CPU supports Apple Hypervisor, this is how to check if your current CPU supports it and can run VMware Fusion 11.5, Docker, Anka and more importantly, spoof the VMM flag with OpenCore for having native Catalina installs and software updates.
Open Terminal:
Code:sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string; sysctl kern.hv_support
Apple Hypervisor supported the answer will be kern.hv_support: 1, it's a mid-2010 Mac Pro upgraded to X5680:
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This is the same mid-2010 Mac Pro but back with the original W3565 Xeon Nehalem installed. Apple Hypervisor unsupported, kern.hv_support: 0,
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This is a early-2008 Mac Pro, Apple Hypervisor unsupported, kern.hv_support: 0:
Since you have a W3540, you have a single CPU tray MP4,1>5,1. Only dual CPU trays for 2009 Mac Pros use de-lided Xeons.That was very useful - wish I'd known about it prior to starting down this road with = VMWare Fusion and Catalina VM attached to a real disk...
My output for my cMP 4,1-> cMP 5,1 was:
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but following your advice my replacement processor (X5677) is on it's way and should arrive between Jan 6 and 13. Plenty of time to get hardware for de-lidding and hex wrench long enough to reach the 3mm screws.
Thanks again for your advice with this.