Apparently Gizmodo also noticed that Word isn’t any faster at exporting to PDF. Perhaps Microsoft has some more optimizing to do in future versions.
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The apps definitely take about 5-6 seconds to open on a fresh reboot but afterwards re-opening takes a second max. I didn't notice much of a huge speed gain TBH.
Personally, I went with Apple Pages and Numbers about 7 years ago and haven't looked back. It's simple to export to Word/Excel for sending to folks, and I've had no issues opening files from those programs.
I'm a professional writer, with specific custom formatting in many documents, some 200 pages long. I don't do any desktop publishing or anything, but there's nothing I miss from MS Word. It used to cause issues on my old MBpro, which is why I converted. Seamlessly.
Pages is hella simpler, smaller and more straightforward, for me. Plus, on the rare occasion where an issue can't be resolved by a search, it's supported by Apple, a phone call away. (although not all the Apple tech support people are sufficiently trained, in my experience, so that can be a time-waster)
Just saying, in case this option is of value to anyone here. No disrespect, and I'm sure folks have great reasons for sticking with MS Office.
I'm a professional writer, with specific custom formatting in many documents, some 200 pages long. I don't do any desktop publishing or anything, but there's nothing I miss from MS Word. It used to cause issues on my old MBpro, which is why I converted. Seamlessly.
Pages is hella simpler, smaller and more straightforward, for me. Plus, on the rare occasion where an issue can't be resolved by a search, it's supported by Apple, a phone call away. (although not all the Apple tech support people are sufficiently trained, in my experience, so that can be a time-waster)
Just saying, in case this option is of value to anyone here. No disrespect, and I'm sure folks have great reasons for sticking with MS Office.
Excel Unfortunately. Plus Outlook for work email and work calendar. Plus Teams for work collaboration. None of them my choice. I do use Keynote for all PowerPoints and then export. Perhaps I should get into the habit of using Pages, which imo has a nicer UI/UX and handles long documents so good. Although some tools I use, like Ulysses for writing, and Zotero for references, don't play nice with Pages compared to Word, and sometimes we have to do the clunky slog of collaborating on Word docs on Teams. Otherwise, I agree. For personal use, would rather be on Numbers and Pages.
I'm running Office 365 Universal and all three applications are opening instantaneously. They are also extremely fast and in fact I am seeing some unusual things like Excel on M1 universal actually using less memory than Intel Excel on my MBP 16 with both working the same file.
Teams isn’t really a native Office app, I think it is an Electron app (Javascript/Chromium). For work email and calendar I think you could use the native Apple applications.
MS OneDrive is the only way that I can make the spinning beachball appear on my M1 MBP. I hope they update that to Apple Silicon native soon, and I hope that it makes the spinning beachball go away...
Office 2019 initially opened with one ‘jump’ in dock after installing it for some days even when M1 was restarted. Then it went to 4 ‘jumps’, and now all Office apps similarly take 7 ‘jumps’ to open after a restart.
Re-launching is fast and opens within a second.
Re-launching is fast and opens within a second.
The universal versions of Word/excel/PowerPoint open in 1-2 bounces on my MBP, even after a restart. They don't even open that fast on my MSI gaming rig...
The bounces are the Office apps syncing with your online Office 365 account. I tried killing my WiFi then opening Office apps - instantaneous.
Same for me (7 jumps for Word). M1 isn't faster at all. Newest Office already installed.
App launch should not have to wait on syncing, only functionalities within the app that rely on it.
That's poor coding on MS's part.
Its not Office itself, its SIP.
Disable SIP (temporarily) and every Office app will launch in 1 second.
Its not Office itself, its SIP.
Disable SIP (temporarily) and every Office app will launch in 1 second.
What do you expect? It’s still from Microsoft... they aren’t even able to fix known bugs for years. I tried to use outlook on my MacBook, my iPhone and my windows gaming pc.
every version handled Microsoft’s own @outlook.com different. At the end I had 3 archive folders and every version was using its own folder.
when I was looking for support I found bug reports from the beginning of 365 where this issue existed.
and Microsoft removed the only option to solve this problem with the new version of outlook: to determine the folders by hand.
every version handled Microsoft’s own @outlook.com different. At the end I had 3 archive folders and every version was using its own folder.
when I was looking for support I found bug reports from the beginning of 365 where this issue existed.
and Microsoft removed the only option to solve this problem with the new version of outlook: to determine the folders by hand.
I'm curious as to why this should be the case. SIP protects the system folder, I'm not sure why it should affect app launch times.
If you're referring to verification that is made with Apple's servers to check that a signed app is legit (which has caused issues, recently), that's not related to SIP, AFAIK.
I hate Excel. The interface is a mess. I prefer Numbers which is a lot simpler.
It's not an interface thing for me, but rather capabilities.
Excel is simply worlds ahead in terms of what it can do and is ubiquitous in the business world, where I need to interact with files incoming/outgoing, daily.
I pitty you ? Every time I open Excel there‘s a digusting feeling invading me Ahahah !
SIP is antimalware tool, so much more than just a folder-access blocker.
It will heavily scrutinize apps that dont have Apple signature - even though they have original developer signature.
Once again - I discovered this incidentally and by deduction of changes I did between 2 reboots I realized it was disabling SIP. Then I tried it again and it was confirmed.
Note that users who install Office 365 from the AppStore will not see the impact - as SIP is lighter towards these apps.
In any case - this variance is visible only for the first launch after reboot, later it normalizes, so disabling SIP permanently may not be good idea.