I am going to try uninstall Office 365 and then redo from AppStore... I am going to try that. Wonder if the versions lag behind or anything.
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I didn't know about that. Apple says that SIP protects certain folders from modification, nothing more.
Are you not confusing SIP with gatekeeper?
You have seen changes between two reboots, but the difference may not be attributable to SIP.
We know that since Catalina, each app gets verified upon first launch. But that only happens once after each app update. What is SIP supposed to do that would slow down the launch of Office apps each and every time?
Apple's description of SIP differs between what they say to regular users vs description they give for developers.. I dont have the links (texting from mobile) - but description for developers is more detailed...
To support that SIP is not just a folder blocker - if you disable SIP, on M1 Macs all iOS apps will stop working...
In any case - I dont advise SIP disabling, but how it scans now - may have room for improvement, versus blaming app developers.
You're right, apple says
So SIP has something to do with controlling installed apps. I'm not sure what it does beyond the verification that occurs the first time an app is launched, but if it's causing Office apps to take much longer to launch, they're something wrong somewhere.
FWIW, I've tried on my 2015 Macbook air with and without SIP, and saw no difference in launch times. Word takes 9 bounces, Excel 5, PPT 4 and outlook 6. Note: this is on Catalina, after restarting the Mac, disabling Wifi and making sure the CPU and SSD are at idle.
I've noticed a big improvement in launch speeds especially - would take over 10 seconds on my loaded 2019 15" MBP.
Fully agree with you. But as stated in my previous posts, many companies (mine included) have us work on the data with Excel because „this is what we have“ and any other/better tool would cost extra. It sucks but I do not see it changing anytime soon. Heck, for some heavy database crunching I programmmed my own Python scripts, which is free but time intensive.
Is anyone using a non-365 version of Office on an M1? I've never bothered with 365, I just paid for 2019 (and 2011 and 2016 before that), one-off cost suits my use case a lot better. I'm interested in knowing how 2019 runs via Rosetta.
Tried it. It's the same, as MS direct download.
Bumping 7 times to open first time after reboot.
MS direct download and app Store Download from macOS the same.
But fewer background services with macOS App Store Version - so it's a keeper for me, as I don't need MS Auto Update service and other stuff.
Office 2019 for MAC was updated to Universal binary in the latest update. Runs really well. Like others have mentioned, it takes a few seconds to launch after a reboot, but almost instantaneous after that.
Office 2019 is Universal binary (both Intel and M1) from the version 16.44, so native M1 support without Rosetta
Resurrecting an old thread here. I've just installed Office on my new MBA M1, and can see that while the main apps are all Apple Silicon native, OneDrive is still showing as Intel in the Activity Viewer.
OneDrive is currently being a total pig - unresponsive beachball most of the time - but was wondering whether there is an Apple Silicon version in the fast track/insider track option for users? I've never used anything other than the standard releases of Office, but OneDrive is driving me bananas.
OneDrive is currently being a total pig - unresponsive beachball most of the time - but was wondering whether there is an Apple Silicon version in the fast track/insider track option for users? I've never used anything other than the standard releases of Office, but OneDrive is driving me bananas.
Does anyone have any word on when Teams might be updated to ARM? I'm tired of having to constantly run a non-native app for work all day, it works fine but is definitely more of a resource drain than it should be. Given how much better Outlook, Excel, and Word got with native support, I'm anxious to see Teams and OneDrive join the fray.
Exactly. A surprising number of people don't know these tiny things about how operating systems work, but get into reviewing performance this way, inadvertently dishing out incorrect information to their audience on account of their not knowing.
It makes sense to reboot if you want to provide (or care about) an accurate comparison to your audience. If all you want to do is show how you use it and how you feel about it, that is another thing.
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For Teams, I've always found it runs better in a web browser than as an app - this also applies to Windows 10! Have you tried that for performance?
That's a great tip, I had forgotten about that! Too bad the browser v version doesn't support calls/videoconferencing, that's the biggest stumbling block.
The browser v version? Not sure what you are referring to. I use the browser version of Team for video conferences all day long. I've completely uninstalled the app from both my Windows and Mac machines.