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risc

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jsw said:
I am now sitting here, looking at the box for the mini duo I just bought at the local Apple Store.

Part of me wants to leave it unopened, wait for reviews, and maybe return it.

Part of me wants to open it, takes some geek-porn pics, and use it.

Damn.

Open it, and tell us how well it goes with DVD, H.264 1080p content, and the general vibe of the OS - we all want to know no matter how much we (um I?) hate the idea of integrated Intel video. ;)
 

jsw

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risc said:
Open it, and tell us how well it goes with DVD, H.264 1080p content, and the general vibe of the OS - we all want to know no matter how much we (um I?) hate the idea of integrated Intel video. ;)
Oh, I want to open it. I'm just deciding if I "gotta-tell-the-wife-I-spent-$750*-on-another-Mac" want to open it.

* I get a 6% discount, and there's no sales tax in New Hampshire, so cost was $751.06.
 

admanimal

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tjwett said:
damn, i'm in NY and i ordered minutes after the event and mine still hasn't shipped. did you get the stock config? i added RAM, i wonder if that is what's holding it up.

Yeah i got a stock model. Custom configs generally take 1-3 days to ship, according to Apple.
 

admanimal

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jsw said:
Oh, I want to open it. I'm just deciding if I "gotta-tell-the-wife-I-spent-$750-on-another-Mac" want to open it.

If you can wait until tomorrow night, I can compare my Core Solo model to a 1.2GHz G4 iBook, a 1.something GHz G4 Powerbook (my girlfriends), and a 2.0 GHz G5 iMac...and then you can extrapolate how well the Core Duo will perform from there :)
 

jsw

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admanimal said:
If you can wait until tomorrow night, I can compare my Core Solo model to a 1.2GHz G4 iBook, a 1.something GHz G4 Powerbook (my girlfriends), and a 2.0 GHz G5 iMac...and then you can extrapolate how well the Core Duo will perform from there :)
I'll try to wait.

I think we all know how difficult it is to have an unopened Apple box in front of us.

Then again, there's that wife factor....
 

MacTruck

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jsw said:
I am now sitting here, looking at the box for the mini duo I just bought at the local Apple Store.

Part of me wants to leave it unopened, wait for reviews, and maybe return it.

Part of me wants to open it, takes some geek-porn pics, and use it.

Damn.


OPEN it and please prove us all wrong with some benchmarks.
 

jsw

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MacTruck said:
OPEN it and please prove us all wrong with some benchmarks.
I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me which benchmarks to run - I'll make sure they work on the Intellimac, then maybe I'll open the mini....
 

Spanky Deluxe

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jsw said:
I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me which benchmarks to run - I'll make sure they work on the Intellimac, then maybe I'll open the mini....

Well the general responsiveness will be interesting. Rosetta applications are probably going to go a bit slow since the stock (If you bought if off the shelf) 512MB will hold it back.

If you have UT2004 lying around, install that and download the universal binary.

I'd really prefer Rosetta applications to be left until a 1GB test since we all know that Rosetta needs that.
 

jsw

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MacTruck said:
I have no other apps for this except for the ones that come with it. Photoshop Elements won't run. eclipse (Java development) doesn't led itself to benchmarks. WCIII... likely won't run unless I up the RAM (I have it on the Intellimac, but it's at 2GB RAM and I'm not sure how to get specs off of it anyway). I don't have UT.

Any suggestions?
 

admanimal

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MacTruck said:
Photoshop thread test baby.

I would guess that anything that uses Rosetta on a stock (i.e. 512MB of RAM) Intel Mini is going to be reallllly slow (even for Rosetta) given that the CPU only has about 432 MB of RAM at its disposal.

Personally I am more interested in seeing how native apps run, since that's pretty much all I'll be using.

Do you have any good sized movie clips that you could import into iMovie and then just stick them all together and export? It won't be exact but if you do the same thing on your Mini and intellimac, the difference should be large enough to capture while timing it by hand, and it will give us a rough idea of the performance.
 

jsw

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admanimal said:
I would guess that anything that uses Rosetta on a stock (i.e. 512MB of RAM) Intel Mini is going to be reallllly slow (even for Rosetta) given that the CPU only has about 432 MB of RAM at its disposal.

Personally I am more interested in seeing how native apps run, since that's pretty much all I'll be using.
If I open it, I'll definitely provide that feedback, but I was hoping for a benchmark so as to share some sort of objective measurement with the community.
 

MacTruck

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jsw said:
If I open it, I'll definitely provide that feedback, but I was hoping for a benchmark so as to share some sort of objective measurement with the community.


No offense but this is why intels suck right now. Buying one of them is purely for gadget junkies. They are useless.
 

admanimal

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MacTruck said:
No offense but this is why intels suck right now. Buying one of them is purely for gadget junkies. They are useless.

How does not being able to benchmark them make them useless? Last time I checked they can still access email, play music, go on the web, make movies and DVDs, etc. And it can definitely do these things faster than a lot of people's current Macs.
 

tjwett

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MacTruck said:
No offense but this is why intels suck right now. Buying one of them is purely for gadget junkies. They are useless.

this comment has some merit, at least for some people. they are useless for anything from Adobe or Apple's Pro apps. or anything that requires timing, like most 3rd party audio and video software. i tried running Reason on the Core Duo iMac and it wasn't so pretty. i am eager to find out what out what my Core Duo mini feels like after just selling my dual G5. luckily i won't need to be doing any mission critical design work for another 6 months or so. finishing up a web design project this week on my 12" PowerBook and it's not too much fun in Photoshop. not even gonna bother trying with the mini. the only app i'm concerned about will be FileMaker, which should have been Universal from day one in my opinion considering they are an Apple-owned company. everything else i use is Universal already except for Apple Remote Desktop.
 

Spanky Deluxe

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jsw, what does the box look like? Is it basically the same as the previous minis? You can take photos of the box without invalidating the wife-rule!!

BTW, if you had a G4 mini and had just bought this one would you be waiting to open it or would you have switched them and told her "what, this remote?? Oh we've had it for ages but I couldn't find it!"
 

tjwett

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Spanky Deluxe said:
...BTW, if you had a G4 mini and had just bought this one would you be waiting to open it or would you have switched them and told her "what, this remote?? Oh we've had it for ages but I couldn't find it!"

was thinking the same thing. just quietly swap this one in its place. ha, i know my girlfriend would never know the difference. she couldn't care less about any of this though.
 
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