Damn I was hoping that the 6gb was for the 12.9” models. Tempted to cancel my order and old out for 2019/2020
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ok new iPads are really fast
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From what I hear both the 11” and the 12.9” 1 TB models have 6 gigs of ram, while all the 64, 256, & 512 models of both sizes have 4 gigs of ram. Still waiting on confirmation, but that’s the buzz so far.
That additional identifier has scores in line with the other identifier with the consistently higher scores - it could be the identifiers for 12.9 Wifi & 12.9 Cellular. Things really aren't clear cut at the moment.
True but based on the wiki page posted earlier in this thread it would seem the 8.8 models are 12.9" and the 8.2/8.3 models are 11". Not saying this is completely accurate but it probably is.
What I'm saying is that Apple is comparing this, and saying it is more powerful than a normal laptop - when the iPad is unable to sustain performance over time the same way a laptop with actual cooling can. I think Apple's comparison is dishonest.
Laptops with proper cooling are able to go to Turbo Boost in short bursts and hold high clock for a long time (i know my nTB MBP is able to sustain 3.2 GHz indefinitely under load). This iPad will throttle immediately.
I stopped using mine when Apple made it unusable with iOS 7 or 8, I can't remember. I vowed to never buy an iPad again back then.
I got an iPad Pro in September.
I saw another wiki that lists the 11" models as ipad8,1 ipad8,2 ipad8,3 & ipad8,4. If true, it would make the 256GB model 6GB and the 512GB model 4GB.
I'm probably clutching at straws at the moment but this doesn't make a whole of sense so something at the moment is not accurate. I guess we need to see scores from ipad8,5 ipad8,6 & ipad8,7 (if they exist) to paint a clearer picture.
If Apple does indeed do this BS, I’m not buying the iPad. That would be ridiculous to have to order a 1TB iPad to get 6GB of RAM. I planned to have this as my main computer for a couple years, but ordered the 256gb model. $1800 is wY too much for an iPad.
If true, this is a major kick to the private’s by Apple.
I’ve been a loyal customer and promoter of Apple for 8+ years, I’m really questioning if I’ll stick with them.
If true, this is a major kick to the private’s by Apple.
I’ve been a loyal customer and promoter of Apple for 8+ years, I’m really questioning if I’ll stick with them.
My concern over the RAM is more around fragmentation. I'm done beta testing for a number of apps/games and one concern developers had was this kind of hardware split. I would hate to have an app not support a specific feature or extended feature because not enough devices hard the available resources. If you said all current 12.9 models had 6GB then it would make more sense that some current 11 models and some current 12.9 models had 6GB and the others had less.
I'm starting to wonder if Apple are trying to transition to a Macbook style of pricing where for each model, they have an entry level RAM/Storage configuration and you can configure up with a higher RAM/Storage configuration. That doesn't make sense just now though since Apple don't advertise the RAM of their iPad models.
I'm starting to wonder if Apple are trying to transition to a Macbook style of pricing where for each model, they have an entry level RAM/Storage configuration and you can configure up with a higher RAM/Storage configuration. That doesn't make sense just now though since Apple don't advertise the RAM of their iPad models.
Benchmarks don’t tell the whole story by any stretch.
Comparing web browsing speed from an iPad Air 2, iPad 2018, and iPad Pro 10.5 there is a barely perceptible difference in how quickly web pages load. We’re talking small fractions of a second. There are YouTube videos comparing this in real time.
I think the only place where the speed and RAM come into play are during multi tasking or loading graphic intensive games.
However the iPad screen is too small for me to be useful for multitasking and I don’t game.
Comparing web browsing speed from an iPad Air 2, iPad 2018, and iPad Pro 10.5 there is a barely perceptible difference in how quickly web pages load. We’re talking small fractions of a second. There are YouTube videos comparing this in real time.
I think the only place where the speed and RAM come into play are during multi tasking or loading graphic intensive games.
However the iPad screen is too small for me to be useful for multitasking and I don’t game.
That pees me off. WTF is wrong with Apple letting it do that? That is not Pro quality or thought process.
My iPad Pro with a10x does not throttle or the throttling is not obvious. Doing a long video encode of over 10minutes didn’t slow it down and neither did exporting 42mp RAW files. So your assertion of immediate throttling at least with the a10x is wrong
This makes these processors:
- Faster than the 2018 13-inch MacBook Pros (https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/10493082?baseline=10568063)
- Only ~3000 points lower on Geekbench than the 2018 base 15" MacBook Pros (https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/429)
- Only ~4000 points lower Geekbench than the highest specced 2018 15" MacBook Pros (https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/431)
- Faster than the base 2018 15" MacBook Pro in single core performance (https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/429)
- Double the performance of last year's 10.5" iPad Pro (https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/46)
- Faster than the highest specced 2017 15" MacBook Pros, released just a year ago (https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/419)
They already are ahead of intel. These chips are outperforming intel’s chips that have much higher power draws not to mention better cooling. When apple designs these chips to have proper cooling and much higher power draw, I can’t even imagine the performance we’ll see.
I'm not sure it's fair to compare ARM chips directly to X86
Well, it shouldn't slow down noticeably. But it is not sustaining anywhere close to Geekbench levels of performance while encoding. This is the main reason why, even if Apple is advertising "console class" graphics, the actual games are nowhere close.
There is more to a game than just the graphics but the NBA game they demoed at the keynote looked pretty damn good to me. Lifelike players and all crowd members are unique and individually rendered/animated. Would love to see what Grid Autosport looked like if targeted towards these Pros!
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That's because developers most likely target the lowest common denominator in order to get more revenue, albeit there may be exceptions for highly specialized apps (e.g. medical field, etc) that can sell for $$.
I've seen the demo and the mechanics and physics in it are not up to console standards. By a country mile. The same with the Infinity Blade game they demoed at the XS event - graphics may look OK but the rest is very simple mechanics (i.e. swipe the screen - in the NBA case the players' movement transitions are really not console class).
These are specific examples but my general point is that despite these synthetic benchmarks the performance of these iPads will not match a real life laptop, and this is aggravated by software.
That's exactly why I said there is more to a game than the graphics. Those games are designed with a touch device interface in mind. The graphics are still impressive none the less and some games have implemented external controller support well so they offer a more console like experience. Mobile games are still usually restricted by things like RAM, co-processors, storage and other constraints such media delivery formats.
How do you figure? It seems pretty clear it's a resource constraint. It's worse on my old Air. I'm happy to try it but I'm curious about the logic.
Exactly , which is why iPads have been mostly gimped by baby versions of software for years even though I know there is more than enough raw power to run full adobe apps. We saw proof of this at the keynote. My only question is what the hell took so long??? The iPad pro has been out for 3 years with amazing speed and 4GB of RAM. Meanwhile Affinity photo came along and unleashed the raw power of these devices.
Last time I had to get a quote, AutoCAD license was a few grand ($3-4K?). I believe Photoshop is several hundred dollars. I expect they had to study first if it will be worth the development cost.
I think a12x bionic wipes the floor even with the latest AMD threadripper 32 core, 64 threads. Wow, great job Apple. Amaziiing. Geekbench results proves it.