Ok...so I bought a IP5s///

[MRU]

How can you not know:

- Scrolling performance (you know the thing you do all the time and therefore is an important aspect.)
- Swype performance
- App quality
- Sound quality
- The ability to close a streaming music app from app closer and stop the music by doing that. You know, actually CLOSE the app like you asked.
- Ecosystem
- Quality on mirroring options. A chromecast does not have optical out so you can go through a DAC, nor the quality of an Apple tv.
- Ability to set up af new phone like your old was exactly.
- A real functional fingerprint reader
- AirPlay. You know, lossless quality, not chromecast or bluetooth, but thought through quality.
- Really good industrial design. You know, the thing Dieter Rams of Braun's 60's design would like.
- Very good accessories like Bang & Olufsen.
- Very good notifications that you can trust. Have owned many flagship phones. Side by side with my iPhone, I could only trust my iPhone. Always notifications first and when they happened.
- iMessage
- Better and more intuitive UI
- Charger that does not make low frequency noise.
- Really good customer service.
- A nice calibrated display, not over saturated.
- Continuity, seemlessly connection between devices in a way the others could only dream of.
- Speed
- 64 bit
- Accepted in pro business and recommended by every IT professional with respect for themselves when you go exchange and Remote desktop at home. Security, you know.
- overall feel of the phone. The easyness.
- everybody has a charger when you need it.
- best charger. Irreversible cable
- A battery status indicator you can trust.
- a battery that does not give up that easy on heavy load of apps.
- updates for years to come.

App Quality - for the most part (excluding tablet experience) I find identical. If anything the fact that apps can access other third party tools like dropbox on Android makes them better IMHO. Uploading a pic inside Facebook - on android it allows me to choose my onedrive or dropbox, whereas on iOS I have to go into those apps first.

Sound Quality - Again the last number of flagships I have had such as the Z2 or M8 have had better quality than the iPhone 5.

- I can close spotifly / google play unlimited / tune in from the notification bar - and actually 'stop them'. So I don't know what you are talking about there. Indeed I have had instances where iOS hasn't actually closed third party radio streaming apps after pressing stop - it actually just paused them and continued to buffer.

- ecosystem - much of a muchness. A number of iOS apps that aren't available however - but the majority of the major ones are.

- notifications ? All iPhones need better notifications - and there more examples of better notification notices on Android with notification LED's or active display on Moto X for example.

- Ability to set up phone. Yes - Google need to be able to set up your home screen exactly like it was on other devices - but at least it does remember what apps you had installed and downloads them when you set up a new device.

- S5 finger print reader works for me? I only use it for paypal to be honest however.

- Airplay - is far far far from perfect. There is still too much lag for gaming and too many apps can block media content from being streamed via Airplay and no way of overriding. Chromecast likewise is too limited for me too.

- design is subjective. If anything I though the HTC M7/M8 are more apple like than iPhone 5 / 5S. Put a M7 next to a MacBook Air and it looks more like an apple product than the iPhone 5.

- Very good accessories like Bang & Olufsen work with all devices - otherwise they wouldn't be very good.

- iMessage - google hangouts - same thing except if you stop using hangouts you don't have issues receiving your messages like on iMessage.

- UI is again subjective

- Charger = you must have had a dodgy one. I've had dozens of devices (9 phones this year alone and NOT 1 has made any noise).

- I have had no problems with Microsoft / HTC / Sony or Samsung in regards to customer service. If anything Microsoft were far better than Apple as they constantly rang me to check everything was sorted and had genuine follow up support.

- screen - calibration of S5 can be adapted to suit tastes and the M8 has a fantastic calibrated screen.

- continuity if your a mac user - if your a pc user not so much.

- 64 bit 5S - provides little tangible benefit over the iPhone 5 32bit realistically. It's just 1 upmanship. Important in years to come - right now - not so much.

- everyone has a charger ? Yeah and micro USB is more ubitiquous than lightning port.

 

[Shanghaichica]

How can you not know:

- Scrolling performance (you know the thing you do all the time and therefore is an important aspect.)
- Swype performance
- App quality
- Sound quality
- The ability to close a streaming music app from app closer and stop the music by doing that. You know, actually CLOSE the app like you asked.
- Ecosystem
- Quality on mirroring options. A chromecast does not have optical out so you can go through a DAC, nor the quality of an Apple tv.
- Ability to set up af new phone like your old was exactly.
- A real functional fingerprint reader
- AirPlay. You know, lossless quality, not chromecast or bluetooth, but thought through quality.
- Really good industrial design. You know, the thing Dieter Rams of Braun's 60's design would like.
- Very good accessories like Bang & Olufsen.
- Very good notifications that you can trust. Have owned many flagship phones. Side by side with my iPhone, I could only trust my iPhone. Always notifications first and when they happened.
- iMessage
- Better and more intuitive UI
- Charger that does not make low frequency noise.
- Really good customer service.
- A nice calibrated display, not over saturated.
- Continuity, seemlessly connection between devices in a way the others could only dream of.
- Speed
- 64 bit
- Accepted in pro business and recommended by every IT professional with respect for themselves when you go exchange and Remote desktop at home. Security, you know.
- overall feel of the phone. The easyness.
- everybody has a charger when you need it.
- best charger. Irreversible cable
- A battery status indicator you can trust.
- a battery that does not give up that easy on heavy load of apps.
- updates for years to come.

If it's that obvious, then why so those of us who have used iPhones choose to use an android phone instead of an iPhone?


I think most of your points are subjective at best.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I dont know why ios users crap over ios 7 so much. I recently picked up a 4th gen ipod running 6.1.6 and it looks and feels so dated

I was one of the first to call ios7 ugly as sin. The OS isn't the issue, but rather the UI and gawd-awful colored icons with not very well executed flat styling. Still say it was motivated by the My Little Pony theme.

 

[MRU]

If it's that obvious, then why so those of us who have used iPhones choose to use an android phone instead of an iPhone?


I think most of your points are subjective at best.

Yep ...... Certainly not implicitly true.

 

[daveathall]

How can you not know:

- Scrolling performance (you know the thing you do all the time and therefore is an important aspect.)
- Swype performance
- App quality
- Sound quality
- The ability to close a streaming music app from app closer and stop the music by doing that. You know, actually CLOSE the app like you asked.
- Ecosystem
- Quality on mirroring options. A chromecast does not have optical out so you can go through a DAC, nor the quality of an Apple tv.
- Ability to set up af new phone like your old was exactly.
- A real functional fingerprint reader
- AirPlay. You know, lossless quality, not chromecast or bluetooth, but thought through quality.
- Really good industrial design. You know, the thing Dieter Rams of Braun's 60's design would like.
- Very good accessories like Bang & Olufsen.
- Very good notifications that you can trust. Have owned many flagship phones. Side by side with my iPhone, I could only trust my iPhone. Always notifications first and when they happened.
- iMessage
- Better and more intuitive UI
- Charger that does not make low frequency noise.
- Really good customer service.
- A nice calibrated display, not over saturated.
- Continuity, seemlessly connection between devices in a way the others could only dream of.
- Speed
- 64 bit
- Accepted in pro business and recommended by every IT professional with respect for themselves when you go exchange and Remote desktop at home. Security, you know.
- overall feel of the phone. The easyness.
- everybody has a charger when you need it.
- best charger. Irreversible cable
- A battery status indicator you can trust.
- a battery that does not give up that easy on heavy load of apps.
- updates for years to come.

How can you not know what you are talking about?

 

[bnmcj1]

Yep ...... Certainly not implicitly true.

Most of them are objective. Technicalities and facts. Think about it. But I understand people use Android. I wanted to myself because of a larger screen. So I owned almost every best flagship phone. But you can have it. Competition is great. Luckily we have Android, so I can have my iPhone 6 the way it will be and at that price .

I will not discuss this further, as the technical facts above are pure objective for the most part. More details had Apples attention than Android and that meant better hardware choices and so on. The behind specs measurements dont lie . Apple has the better engineers, as we have seen countless times in real world tests as well as deep measurements.

 

[gotluck]

Lol purely objective, we got a comedian here

That whole post just reeks of bias, if you can't acknowledge there are pros and cons to both systems, IMO you just don't know what you're talking about.

Gotta love the will not discuss this further part, his word is gospel!

 

[Oohara]

- Swype performance

I'm particularly interested in this one, as the availability of swipe keyboards was one of the reasons why I began using Android phones. So the Swype keyboard is already working on the iOS 8 beta? Can you direct me to any hands on video or test results on this please? Been looking forward to this for a long time

 

[bnmcj1]

Lol purely objective, we got a comedian here

That whole post just reeks of bias, if you can't acknowledge there and pros and cons to both systems, IMO you just don't know what you're talking about.

We got someone here who missed the "for the most part" part. We got someone here who won't recognize that lossless wireless transmission is objectively better than 192 kbps, that an irreversible charger is better than a non irreversible, that the respond time, admitted even by programmers, is far quicker on iPhone objectively because of the concentration of core power per task. I could make a hundred VERY detailed and long explanations and prove that almost every single thing stated above is objective. I do not see the funny part of that. Only funny that someone think they can bring arguments on pure facts because of their feelings .

To the other guy: swype is a thing you do every other place than on a keyboard. You know in an app. When the phone is bigger than 4 inch you need swype on a keyboard though. One handed when walking.

EOD, but I just laughed and needed to answer .

 

[gotluck]

We got someone here who missed the "for the most part" part. We got someone here who won't recognize that lossless wireless transmission is objectively better than 192 kbps, that an irreversible charger is better than a non irreversible, that the respond time, admitted even by programmers, is far quicker on iPhone objectively because of the concentration of core power per task. I could make a hundred VERY detailed and long explanation and prove that almost every single thing stated above is objective. I do not see the funny part of that. Only funny that someone think they can bring arguments om pure facts because of their feelings .

What about the fact that apple has strangulating control over your device and you cannot do what you want with it.. Everything is subject to apples approval. There are limitations with email attachments, cannot turn screen off while mirroring, cannot have lagless hdmi out due to inferior wired airplay from lightning hdmi adapter. No downgrading the os should Apple break a feature you need or hamper the performance of your device.

No continuity with nonmac systems. Minimal cross platform integration. No tasker, no notification API

 

[Dontazemebro]

Lol purely objective, we got a comedian here

That whole post just reeks of bias, if you can't acknowledge there are pros and cons to both systems, IMO you just don't know what you're talking about.

Gotta love the will not discuss this further part, his word is gospel!

Honestly, the only thing I can say that is objectively better on the iPhone is radio reception ... and that's really only comparing it to Samsung handsets.

 

[gotluck]

Honestly, the only thing I can say that is objectively better on the iPhone is radio reception ... and that's really only comparing it to Samsung handsets.

Indeed radio reception is better than samsung

 

[Vegastouch]

The ip6 4.7" screen is only going to have a 1810 MaH battery. That's not big enough IMO. The 5.5 will have a 2915 per this source.

http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...er-5-5-inch-handset--1261723?src=rss&attr=all

 

[Vegastouch]

When iPhone 6 is released with a bigger screen, I will lose every bit of interest in Android and won't even think about the competition. They will just be so much behind and can't play on screen size any longer.

Lol, the iPhone will still be and always will be behind.

 

[Vegastouch]

App Quality - for the most part (excluding tablet experience) I find identical. If anything the fact that apps can access other third party tools like dropbox on Android makes them better IMHO. Uploading a pic inside Facebook - on android it allows me to choose my onedrive or dropbox, whereas on iOS I have to go into those apps first.

Sound Quality - Again the last number of flagships I have had such as the Z2 or M8 have had better quality than the iPhone 5.

- I can close spotifly / google play unlimited / tune in from the notification bar - and actually 'stop them'. So I don't know what you are talking about there. Indeed I have had instances where iOS hasn't actually closed third party radio streaming apps after pressing stop - it actually just paused them and continued to buffer.

- ecosystem - much of a muchness. A number of iOS apps that aren't available however - but the majority of the major ones are.

- notifications ? All iPhones need better notifications - and there more examples of better notification notices on Android with notification LED's or active display on Moto X for example.

- Ability to set up phone. Yes - Google need to be able to set up your home screen exactly like it was on other devices - but at least it does remember what apps you had installed and downloads them when you set up a new device.

- S5 finger print reader works for me? I only use it for paypal to be honest however.

- Airplay - is far far far from perfect. There is still too much lag for gaming and too many apps can block media content from being streamed via Airplay and no way of overriding. Chromecast likewise is too limited for me too.

- design is subjective. If anything I though the HTC M7/M8 are more apple like than iPhone 5 / 5S. Put a M7 next to a MacBook Air and it looks more like an apple product than the iPhone 5.

- Very good accessories like Bang & Olufsen work with all devices - otherwise they wouldn't be very good.

- iMessage - google hangouts - same thing except if you stop using hangouts you don't have issues receiving your messages like on iMessage.

- UI is again subjective

- Charger = you must have had a dodgy one. I've had dozens of devices (9 phones this year alone and NOT 1 has made any noise).

- I have had no problems with Microsoft / HTC / Sony or Samsung in regards to customer service. If anything Microsoft were far better than Apple as they constantly rang me to check everything was sorted and had genuine follow up support.

- screen - calibration of S5 can be adapted to suit tastes and the M8 has a fantastic calibrated screen.

- continuity if your a mac user - if your a pc user not so much.

- 64 bit 5S - provides little tangible benefit over the iPhone 5 32bit realistically. It's just 1 upmanship. Important in years to come - right now - not so much.

- everyone has a charger ? Yeah and micro USB is more ubitiquous than lightning port.

In was going to reply to his statement as well but glad someone else did. Mosr everything he pointed out that is alledegly bettet I thought was BS rubbish too. Pretty biased post.
Lol at better accesssories like Bang and Olufson. Like those won't work on Android?lol. Lame.

I've also never had noise come from my chargers. And I know some like it but I really dont care about a fingerprint scanner. It didn't draw me to the Samsung S5.

 

[JaySoul]

My chief problem with the iPhone 6 is that if it's similar to the dummies, those bezels are actually pretty big. I bet that the Samsung Alpha ends up looking sexy as hell compared to the iPhone 6, size wise.

If it doesn't have some unique features, I don't really see the point of switching back to iOS.

But then if it does and the iWatch is something genuinely great, then fair enough I'll consider it.

 

[nfl46]

Lol, the iPhone will still be and always will be behind.

In terms of what? Features? Specs? Apple will NEVER win the spec race...not like they want to anyway...why? Because Apple engineers (s) on every other company.

 

[MRU]

My chief problem with the iPhone 6 is that if it's similar to the dummies, those bezels are actually pretty big. I bet that the Samsung Alpha ends up looking sexy as hell compared to the iPhone 6, size wise.

If it doesn't have some unique features, I don't really see the point of switching back to iOS.

But then if it does and the iWatch is something genuinely great, then fair enough I'll consider it.

Yeah the bezels are a worry to me too. The moto x is same size pretty much as the iPhone 5 as is and that's with a 4.7" screen.

Add the bezels from the iPhone and its going to feel noticeably bigger, as for the 5.5" version. If anything my experience with the one plus one shows me how a big screen with large bezels makes a large uncomfortable phone for me and I could never purchase another with those dimensions....

The bezels may be the only thinhg that stop me getting an iPhone

 

[jamezr]

Yeah the bezels are a worry to me too. The moto x is same size pretty much as the iPhone 5 as is and that's with a 4.7" screen.

Add the bezels from the iPhone and its going to feel noticeably bigger, as for the 5.5" version. If anything my experience with the one plus one shows me how a big screen with large bezels makes a large uncomfortable phone for me and I could never purchase another with those dimensions....

The bezels may be the only thinhg that stop me getting an iPhone

This is why I won't pre-order an IP6. I want to see it in person first. Like you said....the Moto X is a nice ergonomical phone with a 4.7 screen. Look at the LG G3 with a 5.5 screen. Both of those phones do not have huge bezels.

 

[Shanghaichica]

This is why I won't pre-order an IP6. I want to see it in person first. Like you said....the Moto X is a nice ergonomical phone with a 4.7 screen. Look at the LG G3 with a 5.5 screen. Both of those phones do not have huge bezels.

I'll have to test out iOS 8 on my iPad and iPod before I'll get the iPhone 6. I need to see how icloud drive, improved sharing and widgets work before I'd consider it.

 

[jamezr]

I'll have to test out iOS 8 on my iPad and iPod before I'll get the iPhone 6. I need to see how icloud drive, improved sharing and widgets work before I'd consider it.

I switch a lot of phones so I am pretty sure I will get a IP6. But that is no guarantee I will keep it.
I don't think IOS8 will have widgets like we are used to seeing on Android.
I have never used icloud. I prefer Dropxbox or Gdrive or even One drive

 

[Shanghaichica]

I switch a lot of phones so I am pretty sure I will get a IP6. But that is no guarantee I will keep it.
I don't think IOS8 will have widgets like we are used to seeing on Android.
I have never used icloud. I prefer Dropxbox or Gdrive or even One drive

I know the widgets will not be on screen but I want to see how they work. I also prefer to use google drive but I want to see if the icloud drive can go some way to ameliorating the lack of a filling system on iOS.

 

[AppleRobert]

The little I have seen online about iOS 8 when looking into it, color me unimpressed.

Consideration the 6 will only be bought off contract, right now I don't anticipate a purchase. Maybe when I see it in person and dive deeper into ios 8 and like it then maybe. But the price is being what it will be it is going be hard to sway me to tell the truth considering I did not care for the 5S and I already have an Air to play with. And that is just it as well being the 6 would only be a toy and not a daily driver.

 

[jamezr]

We went on a 4x4/hiking trip into the White mountains in AZ. Tested out the IP5s camera...

My son found a baby horny toad......

 

[daveathall]

I must admit that I have never been disappointed by any camera on any iPhone, IMHO, always superb.