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Another branch…. How many of those lenses do you think will be “lost” when they pack it all up? We used to routinely lose stuff at shows. I mean heavy IT hardware too not just little things.

One year we were showing off our IoT capabilities by fitting telemetry to a mountain bike and a rider. Rather than using a cheap off the shelf bike, somehow the guys working the stand managed to get sign off for a Santa Cruz V10. For those who don’t know, that was a $10,000 pushbike at the time.

In a surprise turn of events, that bike never made it back from the show. The two guys working the stand (who happened to be mountain bikers in their free time) had no idea where it went. How bizarre…. :oops:
 
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I'm a Canon shooter, but hail, I'd buy a Nikon just for the 600mm f4 if I can get my mitts on one.
Too bad I did not know this. I had a Nikon and left it at my old residence before I moved. I have a Canon Powershot SX740HS. I dislike Nikon I could not give that camera away.
 
I'm a Canon shooter, but hail, I'd buy a Nikon just for the 600mm f4 if I can get my mitts on one.
No need to wait around for Nikon to cough up a 600mm for their mirrorless line...... Sony already offers the FE 600mm f/4 GM OSS lens. For a mere $12,998.00! For those of us with significantly smaller budgets, there's the more reasonably priced FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS lens, at just $1,998.00.

Of course if one is still using F-mount DSLRs, then there is the Nikon AF-S Nikkor 600mm f/4E FL ED VR lens, and it's another hefty chunk of change: $12,296.00. Personally, I'd rather spend that kind of money on a mirrorless 600mm lens at this point in time, as everything is moving in the direction of mirrorless.
 
I'm a Canon shooter, but hail, I'd buy a Nikon just for the 600mm f4 if I can get my mitts on one.
You don't like this Canon RF for mirrorless cameras?

How about this EF one "adapted" to the R3, or R5, or R6, or without adapter to any Canon DSLR camera?
There is a person using a new FE 600mm f/4 in this forum:
 
You don't like this Canon RF for mirrorless cameras?

How about this EF one "adapted" to the R3, or R5, or R6, or without adapter to any Canon DSLR camera?
There is a person using a new FE 600mm f/4 in this forum:
I'd like any 600mm f4.🤓 The only thing I'd like more than a 600mm F4 is a 600mm F2.8.😁
Hell if you are shelling out that amount for the 600mm, then I am sure you can stretch to a body to hang it on :)
I wasn't talking about buying one. Too rich for my blood. If I ever got one cheap, I would get a camera just to use that one lense. Whoever coined the phrase, "Glass is cheap" was never an avid photographer.
 
I'd like any 600mm f4.🤓 The only thing I'd like more than a 600mm F4 is a 600mm F2.8.😁

I wasn't talking about buying one. Too rich for my blood. If I ever got one cheap, I would get a camera just to use that one lense. Whoever coined the phrase, "Glass is cheap" was never an avid photographer.
If the 600mm f/4 (or the 800mm f/5.1-6) wasn't so expensive, I would not mind buying one. I would kiss it to bed each night, too! Well...if I were very wealthy I would not love it so much.
 
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1. A 600mm lens is very, very long, or in other words it magnifies things off in the distance a whole lot. It's longer than a lot of photographers even have a practical use for. It's one of those lenses that you see photographers on the sidelines of sporting evens using on a monopod. If you're photographing from a few hundred yards away, it can let you isolate a single person in the frame, or even a single bird.

f/4 refers to how much light the lens lets in. As the focal length of the lens grows(that is what 600mm refers to), the size of the glass lenses themselves have to become much, much larger to gather that amount of light.

That makes the lens physically very large, and very heavy. There is a lot of work involved in designing it, and further in optimizing the design to eliminate problems inherent in this type of lens(especially chromatic aberration, which is often remedied by using exotic types of glass, or even non-glass single crystal minerals like calcium fluoride). The huge lens elements are not easy to move for focusing, so you need advanced autofocus motors and the like for them to focus quickly. All of this put together, and added to the fact that there is not that much demand, means that the current versions are around $12,000. If you need one, though, you need it.

2. What does your Powershot have to do with a 600mm f/4 lens?
 
1. A 600mm lens is very, very long, or in other words it magnifies things off in the distance a whole lot. It's longer than a lot of photographers even have a practical use for. It's one of those lenses that you see photographers on the sidelines of sporting evens using on a monopod. If you're photographing from a few hundred yards away, it can let you isolate a single person in the frame, or even a single bird.

f/4 refers to how much light the lens lets in. As the focal length of the lens grows(that is what 600mm refers to), the size of the glass lenses themselves have to become much, much larger to gather that amount of light.

That makes the lens physically very large, and very heavy. There is a lot of work involved in designing it, and further in optimizing the design to eliminate problems inherent in this type of lens(especially chromatic aberration, which is often remedied by using exotic types of glass, or even non-glass single crystal minerals like calcium fluoride). The huge lens elements are not easy to move for focusing, so you need advanced autofocus motors and the like for them to focus quickly. All of this put together, and added to the fact that there is not that much demand, means that the current versions are around $12,000. If you need one, though, you need it.

2. What does your Powershot have to do with a 600mm f/4 lens?
Ahh those are for pros and I am not one.
 
Oh and by the way the point I was making was Nikon and not my Canon. I had a Nikon but left it at my old residence since I dislike Nikon. I just don’t like their menu system.
 
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I'd like any 600mm f4.🤓 The only thing I'd like more than a 600mm F4 is a 600mm F2.8.😁

I wasn't talking about buying one. Too rich for my blood. If I ever got one cheap, I would get a camera just to use that one lense. Whoever coined the phrase, "Glass is cheap" was never an avid photographer.
Lol… The person must have been a bartender…. Only place I can think glass is disposable and not expected to last long.

I know you weren’t buying one, was being funny - and failed sorry.

I looked at that price for the lens though and I see the case for it is an additional $600!!!
 
If the 600mm f/4 (or the 800mm f/5.1-6) wasn't so expensive, I would not mind buying one. I would kiss it to bed each night, too! Well...if I were very wealthy I would not love it so much.

You would have to kiss it good night… because you wouldn’t have a wife anymore if you shelled out on that. :)
 
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Oh, yeah, a 600mm f/2.8 would be absolutely fantastic, wouldn't it? No matter which brand! BLISSSSSS....... Whew, can you imagine how large and heavy the thing would have to be, though??

Here is the Sigma 200-500 f2.8


So I am thinking it would negate the weight benefits of a mirrorless body.
 
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Oh and by the way the point I was making was Nikon and not my Canon. I had a Nikon but left it at my old residence since I dislike Nikon. I just don’t like their menu system.
That's why there are different manufacturers. If you "hate" or "dislike" one of them for whatever reason, you can go find one that suits you best. Options are great.
 
Ahh those are for pros and I am not one.
Pros - people who make money from photography - indeed use them. So do lots of keen amateurs and hobbyists. I try not to limit the scope of my world by particular labels. My cameras and lenses are very much the types used by pros. I make no money from mine and yet I still use them.

I make my living writing software. I'm a professional software developer. A pro, if you will. I have a fast, well spec'd and expensive computer. My spouse does not make a living writing software or using computers. She has a fast, well spec'd and expensive computer to do the things she's interested in.
 
Pros - people who make money from photography - indeed use them. So do lots of keen amateurs and hobbyists. I try not to limit the scope of my world by particular labels. My cameras and lenses are very much the types used by pros. I make no money from mine and yet I still use them.

I make my living writing software. I'm a professional software developer. A pro, if you will. I have a fast, well spec'd and expensive computer. My spouse does not make a living writing software or using computers. She has a fast, well spec'd and expensive computer to do the things she's interested in.

Something I was pondering last night to expound on this a bit:

Many working pros who need a lens like this will work for a company(often a larger publication) that will supply the lens to them.

Someone who works independently would need a REALLY strong business case for this lens, especially since a something like a 300mm f/2.8 with a 2x would be smaller, lighter, less expensive, and give you two lenses in one without a ton of loss of IQ since super teles often take to quality TCs really nicely.

On the other hand, for a well-healed amateur, this is definitely a bragging rights lens even if you are an amateur who can make good use of it.

I'd not be surprised if you discount corporate ownership, you'd find more of these owned by amateurs than working, full time pros.
 
Something I was pondering last night to expound on this a bit:

Many working pros who need a lens like this will work for a company(often a larger publication) that will supply the lens to them.

Someone who works independently would need a REALLY strong business case for this lens, especially since a something like a 300mm f/2.8 with a 2x would be smaller, lighter, less expensive, and give you two lenses in one without a ton of loss of IQ since super teles often take to quality TCs really nicely.

On the other hand, for a well-healed amateur, this is definitely a bragging rights lens even if you are an amateur who can make good use of it.

I'd not be surprised if you discount corporate ownership, you'd find more of these owned by amateurs than working, full time pros.
Yes, I was thinking about that too after my post. I can make a strong business justification for my computer equipment and it so happens that an investment in that equipment is a good one based on its returns. I'm not sure what I would own if it didn't. And I can put some of those returns into other things, like photographic equipment, that don't provide a monetary return. It's a privilege of which I am all too aware.
 
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