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one thing i hate about the new iMac
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Oh, so if we want a Mac we should put up and shut up or go buy a Dell? You should work in sales for Apple.
glossy iMacs that won't sell
In Apple's third quarter conference call, someone asked Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer about his prediction for reduced earnings in the current quarter. Oppenheimer said there would be a product transition he couldn't go into. Now we know what that is; glossy iMacs that won't sell.
In Apple's third quarter conference call, someone asked Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer about his prediction for reduced earnings in the current quarter. Oppenheimer said there would be a product transition he couldn't go into. Now we know what that is; glossy iMacs that won't sell.
And the iMac wouldn't have become the success it is for Apple. We'd all be buying Dells instead.
When buying a computer for photographic use the screen is the most important component. It is your 'lens'. Now ignoring the matt/gloss issue for a moment it has already be shown that the new 20" Imac uses a cheaper model of screen than the old 20" that does not offer the same spec. The new 24" screen is a lot better quality screen than the new 20". So what you have done in effect is stick a cheap quality lens on your Nikon camera. Also calibration test have been carried out on the new 20" which show/prove the quality is nowhere near as good as the old model. Colour was an issue. If you want to see this test go to the Mac section on http://www.dpreview.com Warn you now though it is not pretty reading.
Sitting in front of your screen and saying your screen looks stunning is not the way to do things. You don't want a screen that looks stunning, you want one that looks accurate and more importantly is even more accurate when you have calibrated it with some hardware. Calibration hardware is worth every penny as it makes an amazing difference to the way a screen looks.
I truly hope new iMac owners will be happy with their purchases. I certainly don't want to spoil the fun. New owners should probably steer away from forum topics like this. (I've seen a lot on this subject in recent days). I'm sure to a certain extent, one "can get used to" and enjoy a glossy display, particularly in the right environment.
In this discussion though, new iMac owners are likely to be biased. Nobody wants to admit they hate the display on their new $1200 (or more) computer. I tend to believe the reviewers and those who have seen but don't own new iMacs when they say the glare and reflection stinks.
As an unfortunate MacBook owner, I don't like anything about its glossy display. I find myself having to switch chairs or turn it at an angle after sitting down to use it. Sure, I can tolerate it, but I wish it wasn't glossy. The gloss serves no useful purpose for me. I don't think it's any brighter or sharper or better than a matte surface display.
In this discussion though, new iMac owners are likely to be biased. Nobody wants to admit they hate the display on their new $1200 (or more) computer. I tend to believe the reviewers and those who have seen but don't own new iMacs when they say the glare and reflection stinks.
As an unfortunate MacBook owner, I don't like anything about its glossy display. I find myself having to switch chairs or turn it at an angle after sitting down to use it. Sure, I can tolerate it, but I wish it wasn't glossy. The gloss serves no useful purpose for me. I don't think it's any brighter or sharper or better than a matte surface display.
regardless of all this hype and angry posts about the glossy screen, i really like it. in the right environment it will be awsome! i have infact ordered one and am waiting about a week for it to arrive.
i tried it (24') out in the applestore, i noticed the reflections straight away, but immediately (like pretty much after 10seconds) completely forgot about it. you get used to it and this was in a really bright place, the sun was outside and the walls were painted white.
nehu, i dont really think the glossy screen will defer THAT MANY people from it.
i tried it (24') out in the applestore, i noticed the reflections straight away, but immediately (like pretty much after 10seconds) completely forgot about it. you get used to it and this was in a really bright place, the sun was outside and the walls were painted white.
nehu, i dont really think the glossy screen will defer THAT MANY people from it.
Personally I'm not bothered by glossy screens. However, the point is that some people are, and this may hurt Apple to some extent.
But does anyone have an idea of numbers? Has there been any sort of (however unrepresentative) poll conducted about this?
I'm guessing that Apple think that the sales lost through these screens will be compensated by the increased sales of people who see them and think: "Looks nice".
But does anyone have an idea of numbers? Has there been any sort of (however unrepresentative) poll conducted about this?
I'm guessing that Apple think that the sales lost through these screens will be compensated by the increased sales of people who see them and think: "Looks nice".
For this very reason Apple will have real problems in Europe because in a office use they will break an EEC directive. You would need to use a anti glare screen in front of the monitor to not break it. The rule always use to apply to home office use as well.
What I don't like, though it's not unique to this mac, is tha inability for the user to change the Hard Disk.
When it's over three years old, and any AppleCare is gone, it would be nice to be able to change the hard disk without having to pay someone to take it apart. To me, this makes the machine less of a long term prospect, and therefore less desireable.
When it's over three years old, and any AppleCare is gone, it would be nice to be able to change the hard disk without having to pay someone to take it apart. To me, this makes the machine less of a long term prospect, and therefore less desireable.
i got my 24" today.
and i have to say, this thread is a complete waste of time.
my plasma tv is more glossy than the imac.
[sarcasm]oh, how will i live? i get headaches after 5 minutes of watching tv. how will i ever cope with a screen that's not as glossy and not as big???[/sarcasm]
seriously.
and i have to say, this thread is a complete waste of time.
my plasma tv is more glossy than the imac.
[sarcasm]oh, how will i live? i get headaches after 5 minutes of watching tv. how will i ever cope with a screen that's not as glossy and not as big???[/sarcasm]
seriously.
The thread is not a complete waste of time. I have examined the new iMac. I was planning to get a 24" and sell my white 24" but the new ones are extremely hot and the mirror-like effect of the glass front if full of reflections. That is not idea for a screen that you sit 1.5 feet away from and directly in front of. For me, the reflections were a deal-killer and I am disappointed not to have been able to choose to get it.
i really dont see the issue. i got used to it after about 30seconds of using it. it didnt bother me at all. im sure you would get used to it after time aswell.
When you have reflections, your brain is constantly adjusting to screen it out. This is a significant distraction.
Also, for people who just do Web-surfing and email, the color calibration issues are probably not so important, but I use my iMac quite a bit for digital photo 'developing' and my white 24" is simply much better for that. I wish that weren't true, but it is.
I don't know what your needs are, but for a lot of us, the new iMac is seriously flawed. There is good reason that you will never see the ACD go glossy.
Yes, that's what I was thinking. But I want a big HD size without the power consumption (or price) of a Mac Pro.
atm its only 250gb for lappys. 400gb comming out soon(ish)
you can always get
A) firewire external, and cloverleaf as many as you want (up to 61??)
B)express esata card and external exclosure
That's what I thought about iMacs too. If someone at Apple, namely SJ likes glossy, the ACDs will probably go glossy too.
I've been shaking my head since Tuesday.
Glossy is an odd choice, Very few HD tvs are glossy, most are matte, especially the high end. If you can completely control the ambient light then glossy can be a good choice.